Series Thread: Rangers vs Yanks 7/21-7/24

[romeo212000]

Who do you replace him with next year?

 

[darrylgann]

Why care? This season is not important. It's all about next year and beyond, right?

So, let's see what we get for him and then continue with the 2015 growth plan.

Well it will insure our #1 draft pick that's for sure.

 

[terpsfball09]

I think you'll have several FA's and prospects that you can replace him with. Well, I guess you cant REPLACE him. But its in our best interest to let him go and get somehing for him. Maybe we can get a young outfielder for him. We can figure that out in spring training. For now, you gotta do what you gotta do. If we can't get anything for EA, then our best bet is to trade Rios. Get an outfielder and an arm for him

 

[donaldson79]

Well it will insure our #1 draft pick that's for sure.

Isn't that a maybe? I honestly don't understand the drafting rights in & outs at all.

Regardless, it all depends on what the other team is offering. Pure and simple, at least to me.

But your point may be an earnest one....not discounting it at all.

 

[terpsfball09]

Isn't that a maybe? I honestly don't understand the drafting rights in & outs at all.

Regardless, it all depends on what the other team is offering. Pure and simple, at least to me.

But your point may be an earnest one....not discounting it at all.

Houston will have the number 2 pick. As far as I know, if we end up with the worst record we'll have the number one pick. Which, at this rate, should almost be a certainty

 

[Xx srs bsns xX]

Time to nut-up son or just be a joke. You decide kid.

Can I sign up for the "getting paid MILLIONS to just be a joke" job? Please? Anyone?

IDGAF what you say about me... I'll be over here dancing in my millions.

 

[WastinSomeTime]

I understand us trading Rios as he is one of our few chips to deal with. But I will actually miss the guy because he did a good job overall and was not a problem in the clubhouse or in the field. I think he may have actually changed some fans perception of him as well.

I am not surprised by the lack of interest in EA if that is true. The shortstops we have had in Ranger history have been awful for the most part so he is a big upgrade. But not $15 mill a year upgrade.

 

[DT LUNA]

I understand us trading Rios as he is one of our few chips to deal with. But I will actually miss the guy because he did a good job overall and was not a problem in the clubhouse or in the field. I think he may have actually changed some fans perception of him as well.

I am not surprised by the lack of interest in EA if that is true. The shortstops we have had in Ranger history have been awful for the most part so he is a big upgrade. But not $15 mill a year upgrade.

EA and Choo may be two very bad contracts that will haunt us if we can't unload them.

 

[romeo212000]

EA and Choo may be two very bad contracts that will haunt us if we can't unload them.

Don't freak out about choo man.

 

[terpsfball09]

I thought choo was fighting an injury? I'm not really worried about him though. His strike outs are a little...odd, but I feel like he'll be the old choo next season. Just a down year because I mean, hitting is contagious. So is winning.

 

[donaldson79]

Houston will have the number 2 pick. As far as I know, if we end up with the worst record we'll have the number one pick. Which, at this rate, should almost be a certainty

You obviously know the draft much better than me. But I thought the draft had more flexibility than just "if you finish worst you get # 1, second worst # 2.

I seriously seek your knowledge of the situation. I sure as hell don't know.

 

[donaldson79]

Can I sign up for the "getting paid MILLIONS to just be a joke" job? Please? Anyone?

IDGAF what you say about me... I'll be over here dancing in my millions.

Send me your resume young man.....let's see what I can do for ya.

But isn't it laughable - instead of being sad/depressed - to think of how much money athletes are being compensated in today's world?

Shit, I buy lottery tickets hoping to win $3/4 mil (hopefully more) and coast my silly ship on in to the finish line. And that's chump-change to these 26 year olds "per season."

 

[donaldson79]

Don't freak out about choo man.

Choo is an incredibly proud and honorable man. He takes his contract seriously and his commitment is who he is.

He's played hurt some, and assumed a burden which he never should have. But that's the man he is.

I'm with ya. Choo will end up being a good pickup for us, just maybe not a financial bargain IMO.

 

[mick7-1961]

Send me your resume young man.....let's see what I can do for ya.

But isn't it laughable - instead of being sad/depressed - to think of how much money athletes are being compensated in today's world?

Shit, I buy lottery tickets hoping to win $3/4 mil (hopefully more) and coast my silly ship on in to the finish line. And that's chump-change to these 26 year olds "per season."

Great avatar....I'm a diehard Yankee fan but I loved Roberto Clemente...

 

[RevSader]

You obviously know the draft much better than me. But I thought the draft had more flexibility than just "if you finish worst you get # 1, second worst # 2.

I seriously seek your knowledge of the situation. I sure as hell don't know.

Houston has the 2nd pick because of failing to sign Aiken. It's really not considered the 2nd pick. It's just a supplemental pick between 1 and 2, but for all intents and purposes it is the second pick. Houston will likely have two top 5 picks because of not signing Aiken, which is why people have accused them of low balling Aiken to start.

 

[terpsfball09]

You obviously know the draft much better than me. But I thought the draft had more flexibility than just "if you finish worst you get # 1, second worst # 2.

I seriously seek your knowledge of the situation. I sure as hell don't know.

That's sorta exactly how it is. As far as the REGULAR draft goes, its worst to first, just like all the others. You cannot trade picks in the MLB draft, so the order is basically set barring a couple of exceptions:
1) If you are considered a "low-revenue team" (Houston) then you may receive an additional pick in the draft if you have offered your draft pick AT LEAST 40% of his slot's value. (This is why Aiken is complaining. He is saying that they offered him around the minimum of 40 on purpose to obtain this pick because there was a question mark around his health)
Maybe this explains it better "The MLBPA agreed to a rule that says if a draftee fails his physical, the club need to offer only 40 percent of his assigned pick value to get a corresponding compensation choice in next year's Draft. Unless a significant injury is involved, the 40 percent threshold is so low that it's a no-brainer for the team to offer and a no-brainer for the player to decline"
2) If you have a departing free agent (Nelson Cruz) and you offer him a contract equal to or greater value then the 125th richest contract in MLB history (forgot what it was) then you will receive a compensatory pick either after the first round or after the second round.

Other than that, its just a normal draft. The only exceptions would be for Houston's scenario this year in their failure to sign Aiken, and FA's leaving next year. We got a pick for Nelson Cruz because we offered him a contract, however we did not get a pick for Matt Garza because we didn't offer him one AND he had not played a full season with us. Some of it is complicated, but that's about as simplistic as I can make it

 

[DT LUNA]

Great avatar....I'm a diehard Yankee fan but I loved Roberto Clemente...

Did you get to watch Mick from the beginning? He was my all time favorite. Was a big Yankee fan before the Rangers.

 

[RevSader]

That's sorta exactly how it is. As far as the REGULAR draft goes, its worst to first, just like all the others. You cannot trade picks in the MLB draft, so the order is basically set barring a couple of exceptions:
1) If you are considered a "low-revenue team" (Houston) then you may receive an additional pick in the draft if you have offered your draft pick AT LEAST 40% of his slot's value. (This is why Aiken is complaining. He is saying that they offered him around the minimum of 40 on purpose to obtain this pick because there was a question mark around his health)
Maybe this explains it better "The MLBPA agreed to a rule that says if a draftee fails his physical, the club need to offer only 40 percent of his assigned pick value to get a corresponding compensation choice in next year's Draft. Unless a significant injury is involved, the 40 percent threshold is so low that it's a no-brainer for the team to offer and a no-brainer for the player to decline"
2) If you have a departing free agent (Nelson Cruz) and you offer him a contract equal to or greater value then the 125th richest contract in MLB history (forgot what it was) then you will receive a compensatory pick either after the first round or after the second round.

Other than that, its just a normal draft. The only exceptions would be for Houston's scenario this year in their failure to sign Aiken, and FA's leaving next year. We got a pick for Nelson Cruz because we offered him a contract, however we did not get a pick for Matt Garza because we didn't offer him one AND he had not played a full season with us. Some of it is complicated, but that's about as simplistic as I can make it

The union filed a grievance against the Astros for their handling of Aiken and Nix.

 

[donaldson79]

That's sorta exactly how it is. As far as the REGULAR draft goes, its worst to first, just like all the others. You cannot trade picks in the MLB draft, so the order is basically set barring a couple of exceptions:
1) If you are considered a "low-revenue team" (Houston) then you may receive an additional pick in the draft if you have offered your draft pick AT LEAST 40% of his slot's value. (This is why Aiken is complaining. He is saying that they offered him around the minimum of 40 on purpose to obtain this pick because there was a question mark around his health)
Maybe this explains it better "The MLBPA agreed to a rule that says if a draftee fails his physical, the club need to offer only 40 percent of his assigned pick value to get a corresponding compensation choice in next year's Draft. Unless a significant injury is involved, the 40 percent threshold is so low that it's a no-brainer for the team to offer and a no-brainer for the player to decline"
2) If you have a departing free agent (Nelson Cruz) and you offer him a contract equal to or greater value then the 125th richest contract in MLB history (forgot what it was) then you will receive a compensatory pick either after the first round or after the second round.

Other than that, its just a normal draft. The only exceptions would be for Houston's scenario this year in their failure to sign Aiken, and FA's leaving next year. We got a pick for Nelson Cruz because we offered him a contract, however we did not get a pick for Matt Garza because we didn't offer him one AND he had not played a full season with us. Some of it is complicated, but that's about as simplistic as I can make it

I thank you kindly....no kidding.

You know your baseball young man.....good to have you on "our Ranger posting staff."

 

[donaldson79]

The union filed a grievance against the Astros for their handling of Aiken and Nix.

Nix - if I understand this situation at all - is the one who truly got boned.

Aiken may benefit from the Astros screw-up; especially in the long run.

And the Astro's have taken a shit in their own pocket, and for a lousy 1.5 mil when it's all said-and-done. Bad business decision IMO.

Terps....am I right on that?