Series Thread: Rangers Host the Athletics For Four Games August 15-18

[True Rangers Fan]

The fourth one is definitely the least direct link. I just think he is responsible for the developmental staff in place. The other three are plenty big enough though. In fact, at first, I didn't include the last one.

Right, I get you. What I mean is, the development of Leiter involves a lot of variables, not the least of which is Leiter himself.

 

[Kelleyman]

We will have to disagree very significantly on this one. I think outside of budget parameters the ownership was hands off in which players we went after. I think they in no way forced JD to do those things I listed.

If I felt the way you did, I think I would give up on following the team until ownership sold the team. Even then, the next group could do the same thing

Not the specific but the money and the impetus that it is now time to spend

JD buffered alot

 

[saddles]

Right, I get you. What I mean is, the development of Leiter involves a lot of variables, not the least of which is Leiter himself.

Yes, but it is Leiter, Winn, Vanasco, Roby, Alexy, and Bradford. All were considered in our top 10 or so pitching prospects.

 

[saddles]

Not the specific but the money and the impetus that it is now time to spend

JD buffered alot

But the things I mentioned were not about the money. They had lots of options on how to spend the Semien money. JD chose, or signed off on CY choosing, to sign Semien. The draft picks and the trade were not about money at all.

 

[Bmurph]

If I am ownership, Seager has disappointed a lot and Msrcus mostly too. Kole, Gray, Garver. Lots of the pitching prospects. Been a rough year and that is what cost Woodward and JD their jobs ultimately, I think. Many other things over the years you can look back on, for Daniels but this year while everyone thought it was still a rebuilding year was supposed to be significantly better than it has in Davis' mind whether realistic or not

 

[True Rangers Fan]

There is definitely a lot to like about Dunning even though his control can be kinda inconsistent.
I can see him settling in and becoming a 3.75 ERA type guy.

I can't

 

[Kelleyman]

But the things I mentioned were not about the money. They had lots of options on how to spend the Semien money. JD chose, or signed off on CY choosing, to sign Semien. The draft picks and the trade were not about money at all.

You are missing the big point I made
1 The owners gave limited control on what he wanted to do due to budgetary issues
2 JD buffered the owners

Not excusing player development or saying JD should have stayed. I think as president I was fine but ultimately CY was going to take over baseball operations

We did mint have a good year and I did not like the woody hire for now. He is too loose IMO

 

[Kelleyman]

Let me stare the obvious

CY is a baseball game. JD is not. With that comes a certain skill set. JD was a general manager as good as his people were and some of the good ones he lost. He tried to bring in good analysis guys but that did not work

CY if he has good people skill which to me he has an advantage over JF in assertiveness should do ok. But success does not happen overnight

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Let me stare the obvious

CY is a baseball game. JD is not. With that comes a certain skill set. JD was a general manager as good as his people were and some of the good ones he lost. He tried to bring in good analysis guys but that did not work

CY if he has good people skill which to me he has an advantage over JF in assertiveness should do ok. But success does not happen overnight

I've read that three times and I'm still not sure what it is you're saying.

 

[DT LUNA]

I've read that three times and I'm still not sure what it is you're saying.

Diagram it if possible.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

I can't

If he can develop a little more consistent control I think he could.
Seldom does he have a blowup start even when he he's having a bad game.

 

[Kelleyman]

I've read that three times and I'm still not sure what it is you're saying.

no big deal

 

[saddles]

You are missing the big point I made
1 The owners gave limited control on what he wanted to do due to budgetary issues
2 JD buffered the owners

Not excusing player development or saying JD should have stayed. I think as president I was fine but ultimately CY was going to take over baseball operations

We did mint have a good year and I did not like the woody hire for now. He is too loose IMO

That is because I am blaming him for things that either happened after the budget restrictions were lifted or had nothing to do with budgets. I am saying even if there were major budget restrictions the 4 or 5 years prior to last year, there are other things to judge him on.

You and I both could blame the owners for this budget restrictions that ended a year ago. The things I listed are things that happened since those restrictions were lifted.

 

[DT LUNA]

Lowe bomb produces 3RBI

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Lowe bomb produces 3RBI

amazing what these guys can do once I've made them my avatar.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

Lowe bomb produces 3RBI

Beginning to think it would be better to just keep him and put him at DH.

 

[DT LUNA]

Beginning to think it would be better to keep him and put him at DH.

Exactly the way I see it. Hard to send packing a bat like that

 

[armadillooutlaw]

Exactly the way I see it. Hard to send packing a bat like that

Especially with a 290 batting average.

 

[Bmurph]

Especially with a 290 batting average.

Jonah starting to pick it back up too. It is however against Oakland but I think both Lowe and Heim's bats play for now. If needing to upgrade a couple years down the road you always can. Lowe is actually looking like the best hitter on the team this year

 

[saddles]

There is definitely a lot to like about Dunning even though his control can be kinda inconsistent.
I can see him settling in and becoming a 3.75 ERA type guy.

Right now, in the 5 games since he came back from his ankle injury, he has an ERA of just under 3.00. So, I tend to agree with you.