Radio Today: Talk of Patriots Trading for Josh Rosen

[wazzu31]

The most foolish things I'm seeing are the comparisons to Russell Wilson. Wilson is 5'11", 215 lbs while Murray is closer to 5'8", 185 lbs. Since he's a short, mobile QB, he is instantly Russell Wilson to lazy people.

Fact is, Murray is much more like a better Doug Flutie, who was 5'10", 180. He could work out for whoever drafts him, but people instantly expecting Russell Wilson are foolish.

Well Russell Wilson was also compared to a poor man’s Doug Flutie or a more athletic Drew Brees but with a weaker arm. He is short but an offense can be built around him, especially in a place that has zero direction or identity like Arizona. Though NE would be terrible for Rosen, he wilts like dandelion in cold weather.

 

[Southieinnc]

Well Russell Wilson was also compared to a poor man’s Doug Flutie or a more athletic Drew Brees but with a weaker arm. He is short but an offense can be built around him, especially in a place that has zero direction or identity like Arizona. Though NE would be terrible for Rosen, he wilts like dandelion in cold weather.

I wouldn't accuse Russell of having a weaker arm.....

By the way, this is all off season radio talk. Not reallity.....

 

[Scooby-Doo]

This is your brain living in Phoenix.....

HAHAHAHA. That's fucking brilliant.

 

[broncosmitty]

The Chosen One will be a SB Champ with The New England Patriots

Im pickin up what yer puttin down.


I don't agree with it, however.

It ain't Kosher, imo.

 

[Ricky Roma]

No way I see this happening. I've changed my stance on Rosen....he was a guy I wanted for SF when they needed a QB. Now I'm glad he's somewhere else......just a complete loser as a leader. I can't srr NE take on this kind of guy to be the successor.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

No way I see this happening. I've changed my stance on Rosen....he was a guy I wanted for SF when they needed a QB. Now I'm glad he's somewhere else......just a complete loser as a leader. I can't srr NE take on this kind of guy to be the successor.

Depending on what AZ may as would certainly be the deciding factor.

I'm not sold on the kid but if the price was right, I'd kick the tires until his rookie deal is up.

Last year was a tough year to assess on that JV team in the desert. He deserves another chance whether in AZ or some place else.

 

[Across The Field]

Well Russell Wilson was also compared to a poor man’s Doug Flutie or a more athletic Drew Brees but with a weaker arm. He is short but an offense can be built around him, especially in a place that has zero direction or identity like Arizona. Though NE would be terrible for Rosen, he wilts like dandelion in cold weather.

I never once saw him compared to a "poor man's Doug Flutie". Where the hell did you see that? Also his arm strength was never a concern. Were these just your drinking buddies who said this stuff?

 

[Rex Racer]

no bud, i was saying pats trade for rosen, cards draft murray

I'm OK with that.

 

[wazzu31]

I never once saw him compared to a "poor man's Doug Flutie". Where the hell did you see that? Also his arm strength was never a concern. Were these just your drinking buddies who said this stuff?

It is what everyone was saying when the Seahawks drafted him. No one liked the pick of Russell Wilson because he was a poor mans Doug Flutie. Every single analyst thought they massively reached and he would be a career backup.

 

[gob]

Last off-season, I thought Rosen would end up being the best QB in the class.

This move would almost guarantee that, so I hope it happens.

 

[richig07]

Josh Allen thinks you're a dickhead.

Allen's situation wasn't good, but Rosen's was probably the worst I've seen over the past 5 years or so. He was pressured on 40% of drop backs.

 

[richig07]

It is what everyone was saying when the Seahawks drafted him. No one liked the pick of Russell Wilson because he was a poor mans Doug Flutie. Every single analyst thought they massively reached and he would be a career backup.

You are making things up... just as the other guy said.

 

[mcnabb7542]

Rosen has played in one season with a coaching staff that had no clue on how to coach!

They said the same damn thing about Goff when the brilliant great Jeff Fisher was in LA!

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

It is what everyone was saying when the Seahawks drafted him. No one liked the pick of Russell Wilson because he was a poor mans Doug Flutie. Every single analyst thought they massively reached and he would be a career backup.

That's complete bullshit. most analysts were concerned about his ability in the pocket and height but also thought his athleticism and throwing were grade A and he had the potential to start eventually. They just didn't think it would be immediately.

 

[Clayton]

Russell Wilson was the 2012 draft. The NFL has long since adjusted their ideas of what makes a good QB since then.

 

[molsaniceman]

That's complete bullshit. most analysts were concerned about his ability in the pocket and height but also thought his athleticism and throwing were grade A and he had the potential to start eventually. They just didn't think it would be immediately.

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Wilson is an accurate passer. He is a very mechanical quarterback who not only is consistent in his drop step, but also understands how to move within the pocket and evade when the pocket collapses. He is an athlete and can torque his body to make any sort of throw on the run, and is accurate in this setting. He is a born signal-caller who shows command of the offense. He has the arm strength to make the deep throws and the touch to put it on a receiver in stride. He is effective when scrambling and extending plays.
WEAKNESSES
Wilson's height will be his biggest inhibitor at the next level and the largest reason for his late-round value. It remains to be seen if he can throw effectively from the pocket at the next level.

 

[SideSwipe52]

I think this is just rumors. The Pats nor the Cardinals make this trade.

 

[SideSwipe52]

Arizona would have to had given up on Josh Rosen after just once year, and the Pats would have to given up two 1st round picks or Tom Brady.

 

[Clayton]

Arizona would have to had given up on Josh Rosen after just once year, and the Pats would have to given up two 1st round picks or Tom Brady.

Right. This isn't a slam dunk for either team. This trade only happens if Murray is the best QB prospect of the past two years by a notable margin and the Cardinals give Rosen up for less than he is worth.

 

[broncosmitty]

Allen's situation wasn't good, but Rosen's was probably the worst I've seen over the past 5 years or so. He was pressured on 40% of drop backs.

HOF wr and a top five Rb.

Rosen won't be good in the NFL, there's zero chance. It's not his line, he's a qunt.