Possible Giants-Bills proposed trade?

[DJ]

Not sure trading away your starting LT to help get a QB is a wise decision. Maybe the Bills make it #21, #22, and next year's 1st?

This.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Total BS. Giants would be stupid to do this deal for that #2 pick. The trade would need to include the bills number one and 2 in the 2019 draft as well to be fair value wise

An arguably top 10 LT, and two 2018 first round picks is not appealing enough?

Trade chart is arbitrary, but the Giants pick is 2600 points, The two 1st round Bills picks are 1580 points. Add in a LT and then the pot is sweet enough for the Giants to bite. It's consistent with the trade chart if you think Glenn is a good LT.

Edit: typo with the Giants points: it is 2600, not 1600

 

[DJ]

That would give the Giants a lot to improve their team.

 

[DJ]

Anybody missing football yet?

 

[DJ]

Looks like Manziel is on his meds and looking to make a comeback.

 

[DJ]

Problem is outside of the Lucks and Peyton Mannings of the world, there is always some skepticism with the top QB's.....I dont think many people loved Goff or Wentz either, very rarely are there no brainer top QB's

+9,999,999

 

[DJ]

That's the only way you really get a franchise QB. Getting one through free agency is extremely rare. Tyrod is likely out, and what FA QB out there is better than Tyrod? Betting on Foles or one of the Vikes QBs?

Keenum is Fools Gold and Bradford can't stay on the field.

 

[DJ]

Perhaps the next...

Nah.....Jackson could be a poor man's Vick.

 

[DJ]

I don't think Brees has any intention of leaving NE. He'll sign a very team friendly deal.

Brees isn't in NE.

 

[DJ]

OT, OLB and CB are needs as well. Will Joe Thomas ever be the same? They also need a RT, but that can happen later in the draft typically.

At RB, they have their 3rd down receiver type locked up in Duke Johnson, but need to upgrade from Crowell IMO. Quality RBs can be had beyond the 1st round.

Kamara says hold my beer.

 

[DJ]

I think if the Browns know they want Barkley and dont see much seperation between Darnald and Rosen, they have to draft Barkley #1 and take their chances that one of the 2 is there at 4

If the Browns take Barkley at #1, Darnold will still be there at #4 imo.

 

[DJ]

It's a start.

Foles...everyone knows this story now...I'm not saying he's the second coming, but Idk that Rosen is either and I don't want to invest two 1st round pick + to find out.

You're a Steelers fan.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

You're a Steelers fan.

Yep, but unlike most Philly fans (who don't like their western PA brethen)...I don't hate the Eagles.

 

[flyerhawk]

I have a really hard time seeing the Giants do that.

 

[DefCONNOne]

I'll do it, Deal! Send me the paperwork.

Oh sorry, but the paperwork got lost in the mail and the fax machine broke down years ago.

 

[DefCONNOne]

Up the ying-yang or not, they need to get maximum bang for those picks (1-31 is not showing promise). I would pass on Barkley at #4 as well and get better value at a different position. RB can be filled on day 2.

It's like people in this thread haven't heard of Alvin Kamara or Kareem Hunt. Nope those losers aren't worth it, got to get Barkley #1, or #4.

 

[DefCONNOne]

CLE needs players sir...good players. To hell with value at a position for them they have plenty of cap space too...they've had ample draft picks in the past and they're picking #1 overall back to back seasons. If you're finding me Barkley talent in the rd 2...I'm taking.

Alvin Kamara and Kareem Hunt say hi, good sir.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

It's like people in this thread haven't heard of Alvin Kamara or Kareem Hunt. Nope those losers aren't worth it, got to get Barkley #1, or #4.

It's really weird because it isn't a new concept either. Todd Gurley and Melvin Gordon just managed to revive an old (bad) idea.

 

[shopson67]

I've seen quite a bit of Sony Michele and Nick Chubb...Guice I saw once...to your point...Idk why you think Barkley is over rated, he seems to have the goods to be an impact player, but there are 5 or 6 guys in this draft that should be effective RBs in this league.

I don't see where he separated himself enough from the other top guys to where he's a top 5 pick and the rest are day 2 picks or later. So, overrated.

 

[shopson67]

Definitely doesn't inspire confidence in their ability to evaluate QB's if they thought benching Tyrod was the right move if nothing else.

Context is important. They benched him after he put up 9-18-50 and 1 INT in 3 quarters vs the Saints, a game in which Peterman came in and threw 7-10-79 and 1 TD in mop-up duty. Bills almost didn't bring Taylor back last offseason, so he was on thin ice already. They decided they wanted to see what Peterman could do in a start, and unfortunately their line got destroyed by San Diego's pass rush and Peterman made bad decision after bad decision in a historically bad performance.

They are definitely exploring trade deals to move up in the first round, so if the cost is acceptable to them, I expect them to make a trade.

I get the sense this won't look too hot when the choice is:
A) Trade down to not draft Mahomes or Watson
1a) You get Tre'Davious White with pick you traded down to

B) Trade up the following year for Rosen (if this report is accurate) or one of Josh Allen and Mayfield.

So, because your team made a trade for a QB that hardly saw the field in year 1 but you are sold on (but Buffalo didn't want), you assume they will make a bad choice of their own? Not drafting Watson was a mistake, but that's in hindsight (although the Watson doubters were out in full force last year). Of course, if they weren't sold on Tyrod moving forward, Watson does share some attributes with him (albeit with more talent), and perhaps they didn't want to invest in someone who's floor might have been Tryod essentially. I don't expect them to pursue Lamar Jackson for much the same reason; I believe they want a true pocket passer.