Context for 'The Worst Trade In League History' Title

[msgkings322]

Whats the worst trade in the past forty years (at the time of the trade)?

The Gobert one is worse. Paul George for SGA and 7 first round picks (!) is worse. The Lakers Westbrook acquisition. There are others.

AGAIN, I think LA “won” this overall. Not the worst trade ever for Dallas though.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Check the ages. In other words, no.



As mentioned, Malone was the first prep-to-pro, and an immediate All-star playing exclusively against grown men as a teen. Dantley had already been ROY, and posted 2 20 ppg seasons, starting at age 21.

More to the point, neither was traded for anything like Davis, Christie, and a first.



You have to pick one, it was either watered down or had less teams. Cannot be both. In fact, the League was anything but watered down for most of these players. In some of Chamberlain's seasons, he went head-to-head with a Hall of Famer every other game.



What, precisely, do you propose that it tells you?

I listed older trades because it is apparent that few, if any, posters here are familiar with league history. I expected that someone else might fill in with some more recent trades, but to-date, no one has.



And players had no leverage, at that time. Also, welcome to the Internet, it is not necessary to shout, as everyone can hear you just fine.


And the Dallas FO has disagreements with Doncic.




No, you will want to refresh your memory on this situation. Even if they had been, selling a legend for $6m is a terrible trade, even back then.

Not responding to each comment bc it is a waste of my time.

Dantley and Malone not on Luka’s level. Nobody was at his age. See below


“And the Dallas FO has disagreements with Doncic.“

No, you’re wrong again. They didn’t think he was worth supermax and his value to other teams’ was estimating to be so high not one team thought they could trade for him. Unlike anything we have witnessed in nba history. So his trade value did not plummet unlike those other trades you listed. Makes all the difference in the world

Again, selling a great player for money would never happen in today’s time. You can’t compare the two. You trying to means you can’t comprehend this entire discussion.

 

[tc1]

Dantley and Malone not on Luka’s level.

Now compare the returns in the respective trades. This is not difficult to do.

No, you’re wrong again.

Read almost anything on the topic. The Dallas FO has been annoyed at Doncic's lack of dedication for years.

They didn’t think he was worth supermax and his value to other teams’ was estimating to be so high not one team thought they could trade for him. Unlike anything we have witnessed in nba history. So his trade value did not plummet unlike those other trades you listed. Makes all the difference in the world

Whose value plummeted, and when?

Again, selling a great player for money would never happen in today’s time. You can’t compare the two.

Yes, one can, because they are both trades.

And speaking of being unable to comprehend, you cannot compare the statistics used in that tweet, for a variety of reasons.

 

[Clayton]

The Gobert one is worse. Paul George for SGA and 7 first round picks (!) is worse. The Lakers Westbrook acquisition. There are others.

AGAIN, I think LA “won” this overall. Not the worst trade ever for Dallas though.

You think all of the Lakers fans in damage control and Dallas fan flipping out is a product of social media?

I don't know. There is nothing sound about this trade from Dallas' standpoint unless they had some real stuff on their star.

 

[msgkings322]

You think all of the Lakers fans in damage control and Dallas fan flipping out is a product of social media?

I know I don't base my opinion on nutjob fans overreacting on Twitter

I don't know. There is nothing sound about this trade from Dallas' standpoint unless they had some real stuff on their star.

I've listed many things 'sound' for Dallas already, it's fine if we disagree. Saying Dallas got 'nothing' and this is the worst trade ever is simply false hyperbole.

 

[Clayton]

I know I don't base my opinion on nutjob fans overreacting on Twitter

I have no dog in this race whatsoever. I'm not even an NBA fan anymore. I'm just noticing that people value Luka very differently. Its hard for me to judge who is overreacting because if he is a superstar then its not an overreaction.

If this was an NFL trade, Rams fans would be laughing at the Cowboys right now. The optics on this are telling

 

[tc1]

If this was an NFL trade, Rams fans would be laughing at the Cowboys right now. The optics on this are telling

It would probably be a lot more defensible as a football trade. Due to the size of football rosters and the nature of the game, any one player is much less important to overall success. So having one player at a massive salary, who doesn't consistently contribute to lots of winning, is not a great recipe, and trading him for a few assets would potentially be smart.

 

[Clayton]

It would probably be a lot more defensible as a football trade. Due to the size of football rosters and the nature of the game, any one player is much less important to overall success. So having one player at a massive salary, who doesn't consistently contribute to lots of winning, is not a great recipe, and trading him for a few assets would potentially be smart.

It depends. I think QBs are roughly just as important as a single NBA player. If it was a different player then I'd agree.

Signing a QB to a long-term deal is also an incredibly important thing to get right. To me it seems like Dallas is saying that Luka is Daniel Jones.

 

[tc1]

It depends. I think QBs are roughly just as important as a single NBA player.

A common misconception, but no, they are not that special. Lineman are way more important, which is why we see quarterbacks' fortunes differ so drastically when they move from team to team. If you can protect your quarterback, it doesn't much matter which one you have. All of the guys in the general category of "NFL caliber QB" can pick apart a defense if you give them 5 seconds. And if you can't, it again doesn't much matter who is taking those sacks. Joe Gibbs wrote the book on this, years ago. He invested in lineman, and plugged in unremarkable "skill" players, and dominated.

It is a nice luxury to have one like Lamar Jackson, though, who is also a running back at the same time.

Signing a QB to a long-term deal is also an incredibly important thing to get right.

It's actually not that important, since you can pick up a Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield off the scrap heap, and, given time to throw, they will be just as-good or better than an expensive QB.

 

[dtgold88]

How do you not include any of the deals made by an owner who had a rule named after him because of all his terrible trades of draft picks (Stepien)?

In one he traded the pick that became Worthy for Don Ford.