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That’s what I am trying to show him. That he is just as guilty as the other side. He is willing to support an investigation of trump by Congress with no specific allegation or facts just because he can’t stand him. I’m sure the pro Trumpers look at him if he is unreasonable and blinded.

I never pretended I am not biased, just as the other group has no reason to declare their hate for Obama or Hillary. It's clear in the posts.

And again I am not in favor of breaking laws just to "get" the President, and I have stated for 2 years that I will abide by the findings. What I don't find OK is posters who do not appear to care if the truth is revealed, they only want their guy protected as Right and Wrong goes right out the window. Honestly I'm not sure that my position is an unreasonable position to take.
 

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He ran his campaign for a cup of coffee niether was IN The ADMINISTRATION hence govt hence swamp .

Mr "Lock Her Up!" is off to jail soon. The judge actually asked the prosecutors why he was not tried for treason. And this is a guy Trump tried to get Comey to leave alone which sure sounds like obstruction to me.

Does this not resonate with you?
 

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Not sure which President you are referring to but once again you are playing the "what about this Democrat" game instead of addressing the issue. Trump got out of his obligation by creating a fake medical exception of bone spurs, a condition that is temporary and many believe didn't even exist. I gotta problem with that.
You need to school yourself up ( Clinton ) what you need to understand is it isn’t a game it’s holding you accountable for excusing behavior your guys commit while bashing Trump for the same thing you suddenly got a conscience about . Show me any evidence that this happened . You don’t have anything but unsubstantiated accusations . “ some think he did “. Come the fuck on . And if you knew anything about military physicals ( which your foolish comment illustrates you don’t ) you can’t go to basic if you can’t walk , run or match long distances and the US. Military is responsible Financially for anything that happens to you. On active. Duty . If the spurs got worse they end up paying disability . I have a disability rating for hemorrhoids for the love of god ( 0%) which means they get treated for free. So again show me proof not some BS allegation and learn the difference that allegations aren’t proof
 

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Mr "Lock Her Up!" is off to jail soon. The judge actually asked the prosecutors why he was not tried for treason. And this is a guy Trump tried to get Comey to leave alone which sure sounds like obstruction to me.

Does this not resonate with you?
It’s more BS he was his campaign manager for 4 months out of 2 years. He was convicted of crimes that had nothing to do with trump , and happened long before trump even considered running . And do I have to go through the list of peoples in other administrations who failed to catch guys on their staffs who did something wrong . You just move from one goal post to another
 

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Nothing to see here , just ethical investigating
 

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Again the IRS is simply looking for compliance to the tax laws. They have no interest in learning just who he is doing business with. We now have evidence that some of his business dealings may have some questions that need answering. And again the President of the United States is held to a higher standard than the general public.

Do we know for sure that Mueller did not request his tax returns? As for Pelosi Trump started this war on the Dems, it was the crux of his entire successful campaign. You know the same campaign where he promised to drain the swamp and then proceeded to bring in a gang of crooks?

So he has no right to cry about it when they respond.

Yes. The IRS is doing an audit on Donald Trump. I agree, they may have questions that need answers...that is how audits work. An audit is not a criminal investigation. It is a random draw or there is something that was unusual on a claim. The POTUS should be held to the same standard with regard to law. He wasn’t the POTUS when this started.

Do we know if Mueller has a right to his tax returns? Actually, the war started with Obamacare, a pen and a phone. As for a gang of crooks, perhaps they were best suited for getting rid of their counterparts in Congress.
 

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No I don't see it as a witch hunt at all. Again we are talking about the President of the United States, that title comes with certain expected behavior. We are talking about a person with a long history of questionable behavior, his charity was shut down for misuse of funds, he has been sued countless times for shady business dealings.

There is nothing wrong what so ever with making sure our President is on the up and up. And again I would think you would feel this way as well. If he has done nothing wrong then he has nothing to hide. Being the first candidate since Gerald Ford to hide his tax returns from public scrutiny certainly suggests he has something to hide and I won't apologize for wanting that looked at.

Every business gets sued in America. I can’t stand how he acts, but that isn’t a prerequisite for the job.

So let me get this straight. You would be OK if Republicans had formed a special counsel to look into Obama for Fast and Furious, IRS targeting of the Tea Party, Russian collusion, and Benghazi, to include investigations into everybody he has ever known?
 

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Democrat Adam Schiff’s team prepped Cohen for more than 10 hours before his public testimony before the House Oversight Committee.

Now how does that go down at all ? You tamper with a witness as head of the committee and call that fair ? Ethical?

And we have saps defending this as a legit investigation . Why tamper with a witness if the investigation is legit or the accusations stemming from it are legit ?

Yet we have people buying this crap because they are foolish or blinded by trump hate . Or they want one world socialism and don’t have the sac to say it

Yes...because you know...the optics.
 

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Some dudes answer from quora doesnt count as evidence that American Patriot, Nobel Prize Winning President Barack Obama broke the law. Sorry.

Some dudes answer doesn’t count...what he explained and showed does.

American Patriot? Obama showed nothing but contempt for this country.

Nobel chief regrets Obama peace prize
He admits the Obama Nobel was a mistake and given not for what Obama had done but as an effort to strengthen him. OOPS
 

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I'm basing that comment on the hundreds of Trump folks I have been debating with here on the Politics board and on other boards. It's been made perfectly clear that they could find an ABSCAM level video of Trump committing crimes and they will blame CNN who was out to get him. Literally every negative thing said about Trump is challenged, I am actually debating with folks on the Politics board here about whether Trump dodged the draft. I'm not kidding. And this is pretty much common knowledge yet some refuse to admit anything negative about their boy.

It's that way about literally everything he has been criticized. He mocks the disabled, one guy said this was a perfectly natural move he has done before. Dad's refusal to address his promise to drain the swamp and then bringing in a band of crooks. And on and on it goes.

It depends on how you define draft dodging. If being medically disqualified by a doctor is dodging, then yes he did.
 

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I've address this already. I am not running for public office where anyone in that position is held to a different standard. I was not the one promising full transparency. And again every other candidate didn't have a problem with it, and few had the baggage this guy brought with him to Washington.

Actually, they aren’t held to a different legal standard.

Full transparency is a myth because classified information exists for a reason. You also can’t believe he meant of his private business life, which is nobody’s bus8ness.
 

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Not sure which President you are referring to but once again you are playing the "what about this Democrat" game instead of addressing the issue. Trump got out of his obligation by creating a fake medical exception of bone spurs, a condition that is temporary and many believe didn't even exist. I gotta problem with that.

Hold on...do you have access to Trump’s medical records? Did you do the evaluation? Is that evaluation enough to get you medically disqualified?
 

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Actually, they aren’t held to a different legal standard.

Full transparency is a myth because classified information exists for a reason. You also can’t believe he meant of his private business life, which is nobody’s bus8ness.


Actually his privately held business became every Americans interest the moment he was elected President. Because the reality is, if he is using the Presidency to improve his personal finances at the expense of tax payers, we should all be concerned. But then again I also think people in Congress, and any public official should be held to the same standard.
 

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Actually his privately held business became every Americans interest the moment he was elected President. Because the reality is, if he is using the Presidency to improve his personal finances at the expense of tax payers, we should all be concerned. But then again I also think people in Congress, and any public official should be held to the same standard.
yeah i can tell he is doing that by not taking his salary and losing net worth
 

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While Chapter 7 and Chapter 13 bankruptcies are most certainly not the taxpayer’s responsibilities, what about the large, international companies that go bankruptcy under Chapter 11 bankruptcy law? Do taxpayers pay for bankruptcies in this category? This is a legitimate question in the wake of the massive bankruptcies that have taken place over the past decade from the likes of Leman Brothers, Washington Mutual, and General Motors



Basically, a company faces bankruptcy when it has more debt than it can pay. When they file Chapter 11 bankruptcy they gain protection from creditors in order to get out of the debt or set up a repayment plan to stay in business (the same as an individual choosing either Chapter 7 or Chapter 13 bankruptcy). This is a fairly well working system for small to medium sized businesses that are either able to liquidate the company’s assets and close up shop or work out a deal with their creditors through the courts and work towards becoming profitable again. However, when a company worth $691 billion declares bankruptcy what happens? In 2008 this happened when Lehman Brothers went bankrupt and was able to pursued Congress to authorize several billion in tax payer money to protect the other big banks from going under.



While the Lehman case was a rarity in America, the truth of the matter is that hard working Americans are sometime negatively affected when companies go bankrupt. Even without a bailout, individuals are left unemployed as a result and in some dire circumstances, the local economy is damaged leaving lower home prices and decreasing opportunities for employment. If you have been laid off and can’t afford your monthly mortgage payments, bankruptcy can also be used by the individual to prevent foreclosure and repossession. Call your local bankruptcy attorney today to find out what your debt relief options are.

so again the taxpayers werent on the hook for any of that if you are refering to bankruptcies
 

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Actually his privately held business became every Americans interest the moment he was elected President. Because the reality is, if he is using the Presidency to improve his personal finances at the expense of tax payers, we should all be concerned. But then again I also think people in Congress, and any public official should be held to the same standard.

If he was using the presidency to enrich his businesses, you may have a point. There is no evidence this is happening. There is plenty of evidence that all of Congress uses its power to enrich themselves.
 

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manafort didnt


Actually he did. He worked for the trump Campaign for FREE because he thought..

He could improve his over all chance of making money in his foreign business dealings. Forgive me if I dont think a conman is going to forgo his salary for the good of the people/
 
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