politics thread

[Sharkinva]

Although I absolutely despise D. Duke, there's nothing that was said about the Israeli PAC by Ilhan that wasn't true.

I have long felt that America supports Israel because to a large degree Israel would not exist as a country without the intervention of America. Before the end of WW2, it was just a section of Palestine that was basically a mass refugee camp.

 

[Stymietee]

Not sure what you are offering as evidence in all of this.

My own experience in running a campaign to begin with. So let's be clear, someone asked for evidence that this guy did something that broke the law. I provided it using what I knew about campaign reporting. There's no refuting this evidence, but I do agree, it has to be proven in a COL and not on a forum like this.

 

[Stymietee]

yup. One could logically assume that. But assumptions don't support reasons for investigations.

"Logically" is the operative word here. It applies to another word that does indeed trigger investigations, and that word is improprieties'.

 

[Stymietee]

I agree. Doesn't this bother you? It does me.

Naw, it used to when I found out about it some years ago, now, I just don't give enough of a fuck to continue fighting against a tsunami of my fellow countrymen who didn't and still don't give enough of a fuck when I was fighting against the attack on our privacy laws. Why? because that fight was completely lost with the advent of the touch tone phone.

 

[Stymietee]

I know I wasnt the one you asked. But here is my take.

If I aint doing nothing wrong, it doesnt bother me that I might be watched. Its the price I willing to pay to try and stop people that are intent on doing bad things. My wife has my cell phone, computer, email and bank codes. If I need to worry that the NSA MIGHT see something I tweet, or email and have questions... I might need to re-evaluate what it is Im doing.

Cell phones and cars have GPS systems in them, satellite dishes can tell you if a dime's up side is heads or tails. Most computers have cameras that can be activated remotely by anyone with the proper technology. Hell, there are businesses that are outright selling devices that track your every move inside of your home. (Alexa, smart home devices, drones and others that don't immediately come to mind.)

 

[Sharkinva]

Cell phones and cars have GPS systems in them, satellite dishes can tell you if a dime's up side is heads or tails. Most computers have cameras that can be activated remotely by anyone with the proper technology. Hell, there are businesses that are outright selling devices that track your every move inside of your home. (Alexa, smart home devices, drones and others that don't immediately come to mind.)

I get all that. But the only way to get around i at this point is to live in a tent under a train track.

And I dont think the wife would be down with that.

 

[Stymietee]

I have long felt that America supports Israel because to a large degree Israel would not exist as a country without the intervention of America. Before the end of WW2, it was just a section of Palestine that was basically a mass refugee camp.

German's fleeing Hitler had to have somewhere to go, the interesting thing is that they selected a land where the second coming is supposed to happen and the final battle of the Armageddon ( har məgiddô (הר מגידו‎), har) is supposed to take place. That place is called "the plain of Megiddo."

 

[Stymietee]

I get all that. But the only way to get around i at this point is to live in a tent under a train track.

And I dont think the wife would be down with that.

I agree,the biggest problem that we're facing in that regard is non believers or Jim Jones type kool aid drinkers.

 

[Stymietee]

I guess it depends on the level of snooping they are doing. If they are reading my emails, listening in on my conversations or invading my personal residence, I got a real problem. And it has nothing to do with what I am trying to hide (or not hide).

The "Patriot Act" you have a problem and I agree, it has nothing to do with what anyone is trying to hide or not hide!

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Jeff Sessions recused himself because he supported Trump. Mueller should have recused himself because of his relationship with Comey.

Nonsense. Both sides of the aisle agreed Mueller was an honorable man and an excellent choice. There is absolutely nothing in his background that would suggest he would suddenly turn dirty with the entire world watching.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Let's be honest. Trump brings some of this shit on himself. He acts like a mob boss that can't control himself. And I'm pretty confident if the left can keep digging, they might find something. But that can't be the reason to conduct an investigation. Just because he is an ass and smells fishy doesn't cut it.

See I don't agree that they are simply investigating Trump because they don't like him. I firmly believe once they pull the curtains back on a guy like Donald Trump all kinds of stuff could be revealed. And again an investigation goes where the evidence takes it and there is absolutely nothing wrong what so ever for them to follow that evidence. Without that pieces of shit like Paul Manafort gets away with all his crimes. It's not that they "keep digging" it's that they keep finding reasons to dig IMO.


Why was Trump one of the few Presidents not to reveal his tax return as he lied about the reason being an audit? Just what is he hiding? I think those are fair questions to ask. I think if they have found that he was in fact still talking with Russia after being elected, as has been reported, there is a damned good reason to look at that return. It's not like Trump is the first President to have his tax return released, no he's the first one in memory to attempt to hide it.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

By the way I want to thank @skinsdad62 for re-opening the politics thread. I much prefer this group to the "shut up faggot" gang on the main Politics Board here. Dad has done a great job of keeping it civil, as have the posters.

 

[j_y19]

See I don't agree that they are simply investigating Trump because they don't like him. I firmly believe once they pull the curtains back on a guy like Donald Trump all kinds of stuff could be revealed. And again an investigation goes where the evidence takes it and there is absolutely nothing wrong what so ever for them to follow that evidence. Without that pieces of shit like Paul Manafort gets away with all his crimes. It's not that they "keep digging" it's that they keep finding reasons to dig IMO.


Why was Trump one of the few Presidents not to reveal his tax return as he lied about the reason being an audit? Just what is he hiding? I think those are fair questions to ask. I think if they have found that he was in fact still talking with Russia after being elected, as has been reported, there is a damned good reason to look at that return. It's not like Trump is the first President to have his tax return released, no he's the first one in memory to attempt to hide it.

Why is that a fair question to ask. Can I see your tax return?

The IRS has his tax returns and I can promise you they were scrutinized when he was vetted as a candidate. Is there stuff in there that might cause embarrassment based on some of his outlandish claims of what a great business man he is or how rich he is? Maybe. And that is what is driving people like you for these returns. Your hate for him and looking for any reason to bring him down.

So we have a government organization that has reviewed his tax returns. So why does Nancy Pelosi need them? To what end? Is there a specific issue she is looking for? No. This is the definition of fishing. What's next? Are they going to go through his high school yearbook and ask what was meant by some of his memories?

 

[skinsdad62]

And I can say that while i did not agree 100% with any President in my life time. This is the first one I have had serious questions of IF he was compromised by an enemy, or IF he held his own personal interests above the good of the country. I was hoping for a mix of Reagan and GHW Bush. I think we got a mix of GW Bush and Nixon.

If you think that then you are foolish . He is as compromised as HRC was to all the foreign donors to the Clinton foundation . It’s a stupid narrative being pushed without evidence

 

[skinsdad62]

There are checks signed by Trump himself during and after the campaign, or do you want to now believe that they are forgeries and/or part of some grand conspiracy?

BTW: in case you missed it, even dual purpose expenditures must be reported, so please don't mention that the checks were for the sole purpose of hiding his affairs from the wife. While that might be true, they also helped him in his campaign to become president, thus dual purpose expenditures.

And you have no idea where they came from now do you ?

 

[skinsdad62]

Your post doesnt make any sense.

Nothing in my post is socialist by any stretch of the imagination.

When you use vocabulary you dont know the meaning of, you dont seem smart.

Everything about your post comes from the tit of the socialist machine

 

[skinsdad62]

Know Im going to catch hell for this.

But I get the feeling alot of todays conservatives would be ok with an authoritarian system provided they were a part of the ruling class. As long as the laws favor their particular idea of what order is supposed to be, many would have no problem with it.

Absolutely foolish . The dems are actually doing it by weaponizing the FBI and Doj with fakes dossiers used to illegally investigate an opposition candidate . Using the IRS to suppress opposition organization . Ie. Lois Lerner . The new green deal is nothing but a socialists power grab aimed at limiting our rights

 

[skinsdad62]

By the way I want to thank @skinsdad62 for re-opening the politics thread. I much prefer this group to the "shut up faggot" gang on the main Politics Board here. Dad has done a great job of keeping it civil, as have the posters.

You are welcome

 

[chillerdab]

Everything about your post comes from the tit of the socialist machine

You’re one to talk.

Everything about your posts comes from the tin-foil-hat-doomsday-prepper, “they’ll -never-take-my-guns” paranoid-delusion right-wing-whack-job spin machine.

 

[chillerdab]

I want to thank skinsdad for opening up the political thread too, but only because after all, sunshine is the best disinfectant.