politics thread

[j_y19]

This sounds like a post for Obama.. not Trump. Trump ran for prez for the country not for any status... and Trumps loyalty to America is unquestioned. The problem with you and all who watch only csnbc and cnn have been led astray to the belief that Trump is a ruthless dictator.. and he never deserved that.. and he certainly doesnt deserve the witch hunt that hes endured now since day one. Teddy Roosevelt was a mother fucker.. the good presidents usually are. Still, he never dealt with the shit Trump has .. of false allegations one after the other. What does Trump have to do to lose my loyalty... nothing.. until the democrats stop acting like a ruthless mob and leave this president alone ill never vote democrat and im certain im not alone with these sentiments. The two tier justice system is unfair and unjust and its BS. Until the dems get their shit together and quit with the BS this one time democrat will never go back.

Trump is ruthless. Ask any contractor who has worked for him. In fact, many would say that he is beyond ruthless, he is a cheat that doesn't pay his bills. He does not portray the attributes I want representing me as my leader. This does not mean that I take issue with many of his policies. I just can't stand the man and do believe that self interests are a higher priority that country interests.

 

[Sharkinva]

So how did you come to the concerns if he was compromised by an enemy?

To me any one trying to do major deals in

Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran or yes even China

Is at risk of being financially compromised. And as such would be worthy of some serious scrutiny if being considered for President.

Add in the fact (not baseless claim) but fact that he has filed bankruptcy multiple times, and the only people who would lend him money was Russia....

And I have my concerns starting there.

 

[Sharkinva]

It's almost like you want to see his birth certificate.

Found it

 

[reptec101]

Trump is ruthless. Ask any contractor who has worked for him. In fact, many would say that he is beyond ruthless, he is a cheat that doesn't pay his bills. He does not portray the attributes I want representing me as my leader. This does not mean that I take issue with many of his policies. I just can't stand the man and do believe that self interests are a higher priority that country interests.

I dont care if Trump is ruthless. He aint gassing Los Angeles testing out a new chemical weapon.. though I wouldnt mind if he did... hes just a president trying to better america with his business mind. Obama tried to better america with his sense of humor and buttering up to Hollywood. All good.. that was his style. Trumps style is cut throat.. let him govern the way repubs let Obama govern. I agree that Trump is an asshole.. most if not all of congress are. I dont have to like him as a person.. just want him to better the US so my children and theirs can prosper.. and imo he wants that for all american and not just whites that has been forced fed by the MSM since he won the office. Just sick of the unfair BS that this president has to deal with while trying to denuclerize the Korean peninsula. Alright.. im done venting. Shit is what it is.

 

[Toadman005]

Found it

Cute. I do hope, however, you picked up on the hypocrisy.

 

[Sharkinva]

Cute. I do hope, however, you picked up on the hypocrisy.

OH I did.

 

[Stymietee]

And when proof surfaces he used campaign funds I am all ears . Until then it’s manure

There are checks signed by Trump himself during and after the campaign, or do you want to now believe that they are forgeries and/or part of some grand conspiracy?

BTW: in case you missed it, even dual purpose expenditures must be reported, so please don't mention that the checks were for the sole purpose of hiding his affairs from the wife. While that might be true, they also helped him in his campaign to become president, thus dual purpose expenditures.

 

[j_y19]

To me any one trying to do major deals in

Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran or yes even China

Is at risk of being financially compromised. And as such would be worthy of some serious scrutiny if being considered for President.

Add in the fact (not baseless claim) but fact that he has filed bankruptcy multiple times, and the only people who would lend him money was Russia....

And I have my concerns starting there.

I have no problem with him doing business, legally, with any country. And his bankruptcies are well documented. He played the system that our inglorious leaders instituted. Want to find fault, start there. Care to see how Pelosi and her family made their billions? See, I can't abide by holding one to a standard that we don't hold all of them to.

 

[j_y19]

I dont care if Trump is ruthless. He aint gassing Los Angeles testing out a new chemical weapon.. though I wouldnt mind if he did... hes just a president trying to better america with his business mind. Obama tried to better america with his sense of humor and buttering up to Hollywood. All good.. that was his style. Trumps style is cut throat.. let him govern the way repubs let Obama govern. I agree that Trump is an asshole.. most if not all of congress are. I dont have to like him as a person.. just want him to better the US so my children and theirs can prosper.. and imo he wants that for all american and not just whites that has been forced fed by the MSM since he won the office. Just sick of the unfair BS that this president has to deal with while trying to denuclerize the Korean peninsula. Alright.. im done venting. Shit is what it is.

I may not have to like my President, but I do have to respect him. And Trump doesn't deserve my respect.

 

[j_y19]

There are checks signed by Trump himself during and after the campaign, or do you want to now believe that they are forgeries and/or part of some grand conspiracy?

BTW: in case you missed it, even dual purpose expenditures must be reported, so please don't mention that the checks were for the sole purpose of hiding his affairs from the wife. While that might be true, they also helped him in his campaign to become president, thus dual purpose expenditures.

This is the one area that they might nail on Trump. Campaign finance irregularities. But that has to be proven in court, not in the press. And even if found guilty, years from now after convictions, and multiple appeals, a fine and a slap on the wrist is what he might get.

 

[Sharkinva]

This is the one area that they might nail on Trump. Campaign finance irregularities. But that has to be proven in court, not in the press. And even if found guilty, years from now after convictions, and multiple appeals, a fine and a slap on the wrist is what he might get.

And there in is the real problem.

If a chief of police was being investigated for potential finance crimes, and he then fired the head of internal affairs and was then on TV saying... you know when i fired him.. I was thinking about this missing crack money thing.

Most would assume he did it because he was in fact guilty and fired the head of IA in order to try and make the investigation go away.

 

[Stymietee]

And that's fine, although I still have my doubts that you won't find a way to excuse any evidence away. The problem is you are asking us to provide evidence when it's not been released yet.

Evidence has been provided. I've done that for just one instance and could provide more. All of the purposely blind have to do to corroborate have to do is click here >>Personal loans from the candidate
Personal loans from the candidate - FEC.gov
...Personal loans from the candidate Personal fundsWhen candidates use their personal...personal funds for campaign purposes, they are making contributions to their

Oh yeah and here for more clarity>>>Recording disbursements
Recording disbursements - FEC.gov
...record of each disbursement, including:Amount,Date,Name and address of payee...andPurpose (a brief but specific description of why the disbursement was made, such as

 

[Stymietee]

And that's fine, although I still have my doubts that you won't find a way to excuse any evidence away. The problem is you are asking us to provide evidence when it's not been released yet.

Evidence has been provided. I've done that for just one instance and could provide more. All of the purposely blind have to do to corroborate have to do is click here >>Personal loans from the candidate
Personal loans from the candidate - FEC.gov
...Personal loans from the candidate Personal fundsWhen candidates use their personal...personal funds for campaign purposes, they are making contributions to their

Oh yeah and here for more clarity>>>Recording disbursements
Recording disbursements - FEC.gov
...record of each disbursement, including:Amount,Date,Name and address of payee...andPurpose (a brief but specific description of why the disbursement was made, such as

 

[gkekoa]

SO let me ask you an honest question. Of crimes Trump has either been accused of or settled before he became President. Would any of them be a deal breaker for you?? Mind you he has been accused of r@pe more than once. Fraud a few times. Possible money laundering. And he is suspected of tax fraud.

He is also currently accused of campaign violations while currently in office. So seriously... whats the bridge too far??

r*pe would absolutely be a deal breaker for me.

What kind of fraud and laundering? What is meant by each?

Tax fraud is dependent upon flagrantly for me. Nobody wants to pay taxes. If he was working in a perceived gray area, I don’t mind. If he totally lied on billions, that would bother me, but only to an extent. I can’t stand where my tax money goes.

 

[Stymietee]

And that's fine, although I still have my doubts that you won't find a way to excuse any evidence away. The problem is you are asking us to provide evidence when it's not been released yet.

Evidence has been provided. I've done that for just one instance and I could provide more. All of the purposely blind have to do to corroborate, is click here >>Personal loans from the candidate
https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/handling-loans-debts-and-advances/personal-loans-

Oh yeah and here for more clarity>>>Recording disbursements
Recording disbursements - FEC.gov

 

[gkekoa]

And I can say that while i did not agree 100% with any President in my life time. This is the first one I have had serious questions of IF he was compromised by an enemy, or IF he held his own personal interests above the good of the country. I was hoping for a mix of Reagan and GHW Bush. I think we got a mix of GW Bush and Nixon.

The same questions were asked of Obama. I think personal bias will definitely play a role in this kind of belief.

 

[Sharkinva]

r*pe would absolutely be a deal breaker for me.

What kind of fraud and laundering? What is meant by each?

Tax fraud is dependent upon flagrantly for me. Nobody wants to pay taxes. If he was working in a perceived gray area, I don’t mind. If he totally lied on billions, that would bother me, but only to an extent. I can’t stand where my tax money goes.

We will leave the r@pe thing, although to be honest he was accused by two of the Epstein girls well before he decided to run for President. With the deal that Epstein got, all cases associated with it were sealed.

Trump UNiversity closed due to defrauding students and he settled it in part because he was also facing problems on a federal level since most colleges also are able to get federal student loans. $25M settlement for fraud... red flag.

I will give you the taxes thing, because i agree no one really wants to pay them.

The money laundering thing could be problematic if they decide he was selling properties to Russians in order to clean money for them.

 

[gkekoa]

To me any one trying to do major deals in

Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran or yes even China

Is at risk of being financially compromised. And as such would be worthy of some serious scrutiny if being considered for President.

Add in the fact (not baseless claim) but fact that he has filed bankruptcy multiple times, and the only people who would lend him money was Russia....

And I have my concerns starting there.

I don’t think he claimed bankruptcy did he? He has had companies do so.

Every POTUS can be compromised. What has he actually done that makes you believe he is compromised? Did he sell uranium to Russia or give Iran billions of dollars? Did he let China run over the US in trade?

 

[Stymietee]

Oh yes. Now I see it. Right between the mountain of evidence that Obama was born in Kenya and the mountain of evidence that moon landing was fake. There is is!

Funny as hell!!
(Oh yeah, let's not forget the flat earthers)

 

[chillerdab]

Its mind boggling to read that there are still Americans who believe that DumbDumb Trump isnt a criminal and a conman.

Pretty much everybody assosciated with the orange doofus has been, is currently, or is going to be investigated by any number of departments and/or lawyers.