politics thread

[chillerdab]

The same questions were asked of Obama. I think personal bias will definitely play a role in this kind of belief.

This is not even remotely true.

There is literally 1/100th of evidence, instances of law breaking, and of generally being a despicable human being under American Patriot Barack Obama as there is about Dumbdumb Drumpf.

Nothing but right wing hysterics from the whack-job wing of an already shithouse-rat crazy political party.

 

[Stymietee]

I don’t think he claimed bankruptcy did he? He has had companies do so.

Every POTUS can be compromised. What has he actually done that makes you believe he is compromised? Did he sell uranium to Russia or give Iran billions of dollars? Did he let China run over the US in trade?

Who sold Uranium to Russia? Who gave Iran billions of dollars?

 

[j_y19]

And there in is the real problem.

If a chief of police was being investigated for potential finance crimes, and he then fired the head of internal affairs and was then on TV saying... you know when i fired him.. I was thinking about this missing crack money thing.

Most would assume he did it because he was in fact guilty and fired the head of IA in order to try and make the investigation go away.

yup. One could logically assume that. But assumptions don't support reasons for investigations.

 

[j_y19]

Evidence has been provided. I've done that for just one instance and could provide more. All of the purposely blind have to do to corroborate have to do is click here >>Personal loans from the candidate
Personal loans from the candidate - FEC.gov
...Personal loans from the candidate Personal fundsWhen candidates use their personal...personal funds for campaign purposes, they are making contributions to their

Oh yeah and here for more clarity>>>Recording disbursements
Recording disbursements - FEC.gov
...record of each disbursement, including:Amount,Date,Name and address of payee...andPurpose (a brief but specific description of why the disbursement was made, such as

Not sure what you are offering as evidence in all of this.

 

[j_y19]

This is not even remotely true.

There is literally 1/100th of evidence, instances of law breaking, and of generally being a despicable human being under American Patriot Barack Obama as there is about Dumbdumb Drumpf.

Nothing but right wing hysterics from the whack-job wing of an already shithouse-rat crazy political party.

What evidence do you have that Trump has broken any laws? Not allegations or speculations or rumors, but cold hard evidence?

 

[Sharkinva]

yup. One could logically assume that. But assumptions don't support reasons for investigations.

Actually they do. You have a reasonable assumption based on a persons actions, that they have in fact committed a crime. Thus an investigation begins.

If the house across the street from you had 5 women living there, and a parade of different men visiting at all hours, for 30 minute intervals... would you not call the police. Or at least be curious?? If the police are doing their job, they would then at a minimum investigate. And if it turns out your 5 female neighbors are just a group of honest acupuncture nurses with a 24 hr business, no harm no foul. But if that same Chief of Police then started having YOU followed... you would wonder WTF right??

 

[chillerdab]

I dont care if Trump is ruthless. He aint gassing Los Angeles testing out a new chemical weapon.. though I wouldnt mind if he did... hes just a president trying to better america with his business mind. Obama tried to better america with his sense of humor and buttering up to Hollywood. All good.. that was his style. Trumps style is cut throat.. let him govern the way repubs let Obama govern. I agree that Trump is an asshole.. most if not all of congress are. I dont have to like him as a person.. just want him to better the US so my children and theirs can prosper.. and imo he wants that for all american and not just whites that has been forced fed by the MSM since he won the office. Just sick of the unfair BS that this president has to deal with while trying to denuclerize the Korean peninsula. Alright.. im done venting. Shit is what it is.

If you think republicans actually let American Patriot President Barack Obama govern, then you are guilty of the most close minded revisionist history possible.

Republicans behaved as spoiled, petulant obstructionists at absolutely every turn under Obamas Presidency.

Its not up for debate. For reference, see Merrick Garland.

 

[chillerdab]

What evidence do you have that Trump has broken any laws? Not allegations or speculations or rumors, but cold hard evidence?

You’re kidding, right?

Like I said earlier in this thread, if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be.... BENGHAZI!! (If you’re a republican).

Her emails!

 

[Stymietee]

While Manafort and even Trump May deserve whatever punishment, they also deserve their rights. If the government can look through their lives in search for a crime, they can do that to us.

..and they often do. The NSA is not there for the amusement of politicians. Remember that nationwide presidential alert that was sent out? they don't just send out messages, they also monitor. Privacy in this country is a myth. Our right to privacy died somewhere between 111 to 1243 miles above the earth.

 

[chillerdab]

Great socialist talking points memo lacking any real study at all

Your post doesnt make any sense.

Nothing in my post is socialist by any stretch of the imagination.

When you use vocabulary you dont know the meaning of, you dont seem smart.

 

[Stymietee]

Trump got elected because Americans we're sick and tired of corrupted talking point politicians. Case and point,,, the hypocrisy we now see in the democratic party. When Obama was in office they wanted a wall. Now when a Republican takes office it suddenly becomes inhumane. It amazes me that they are never questioned about this flip flopping by their loyal followers, and im speaking about both party's. These politicians only want their party to "win" and care nothing about bettering the life of you and me of any race. "Enter Trump"... a non politician or member of the corrupt political swamp. He may be from another swamp but the swamp that is in Washington cannot stand to see the water being drained by an outsider, and this is why they have hate for the man... and since the Democratic party hates him so... so must their loyal followers... and nothing he does can ever be praised.. only denouncements and failures can only grab the spot light. This is why the democratic party is endorsing these radical ideas like the green deal when they know how idiotic the rationalization of it really is... they simply can't denounce their own party for many reasons. it's sad our loyal party's cannot work together anymore.... I know I know... it'a all Trumps fault... blah blah blah

Nah,,, He won by none of those silly talking points that I saw just above. He won because he spoke against what I just touched on above.

Good grief!! He is everything that you've mentioned above.

 

[chillerdab]

You should do a little fact checking yourself, reptec aith respect to the amount of political flip flopping the orange dildo has done in his political life.

Its pretty astounding, actually.

 

[j_y19]

You’re kidding, right?

Like I said earlier in this thread, if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be.... BENGHAZI!! (If you’re a republican).

Her emails!

OK. So what do you have? You talk big, back it up with facts.

 

[j_y19]

..and they often do. The NSA is not there for the amusement of politicians. Remember that nationwide presidential alert that was sent out? they don't just send out messages, they also monitor. Privacy in this country is a myth. Our right to privacy died somewhere between 111 to 1243 miles above the earth.

I agree. Doesn't this bother you? It does me.

 

[Sharkinva]

I agree. Doesn't this bother you? It does me.

I know I wasnt the one you asked. But here is my take.

If I aint doing nothing wrong, it doesnt bother me that I might be watched. Its the price I willing to pay to try and stop people that are intent on doing bad things. My wife has my cell phone, computer, email and bank codes. If I need to worry that the NSA MIGHT see something I tweet, or email and have questions... I might need to re-evaluate what it is Im doing.

 

[j_y19]

I know I wasnt the one you asked. But here is my take.

If I aint doing nothing wrong, it doesnt bother me that I might be watched. Its the price I willing to pay to try and stop people that are intent on doing bad things. My wife has my cell phone, computer, email and bank codes. If I need to worry that the NSA MIGHT see something I tweet, or email and have questions... I might need to re-evaluate what it is Im doing.

I guess it depends on the level of snooping they are doing. If they are reading my emails, listening in on my conversations or invading my personal residence, I got a real problem. And it has nothing to do with what I am trying to hide (or not hide).

 

[Sharkinva]

I guess it depends on the level of snooping they are doing. If they are reading my emails, listening in on my conversations or invading my personal residence, I got a real problem. And it has nothing to do with what I am trying to hide (or not hide).

If it gets to the point where they are actually doing all that... you are already screwed.

Most of what they do is keyword filters and broad level scanning for said keywords. If you spend alot of time looking at how to build a fusion powered car... no problem. Fusion based explosives

 

[Stymietee]

Again I put out names . And if you want to call out one party for racism from a minuscule amount of people with no power then I will bring out the other side. Conservatives are not socialists and if you research these leaders you will find they are socialist and there is only one party advocating that

Add to it that those names ARE in power that I named above

I agree that conservatives are not socialist, they do support socialist programs, but that doesn't make them any more socialist than anyone else who support our socialist programs.

 

[Sharkinva]

I agree that conservatives are not socialist, they do support socialist programs, but that doesn't make them any more socialist than anyone else who support our socialist programs.

Know Im going to catch hell for this.

But I get the feeling alot of todays conservatives would be ok with an authoritarian system provided they were a part of the ruling class. As long as the laws favor their particular idea of what order is supposed to be, many would have no problem with it.

 

[Stymietee]

I notice that David Duke is now embracing iman now . He really likes her stance on Jews and Israel. Notice the media will say virtually nothing about this. To admit it is to spoil their narrative that bigotry is on the right. Kinda shoves you’re narrative up your ass people pushing white nationalist BS on TRump

Although I absolutely despise D. Duke, there's nothing that was said about the Israeli PAC by Ilhan that wasn't true.