politics thread

[ehb5]

it tells me you were foolish . and who was papdopoulus ? a nobody from the campaign who ended up having nothing

your sources were not credible they are financed by george soros or come from ultra left websites

Yes because anybody who disagrees with you is foolish.

Papadopoulos was a trump campaign adviser.

According to you...

- im lying about being a conservative.

- Im lying about reading the ig report

- I want open borders

- i want no border security

- I think hillary did nothing wrong

- i think tax cuts are garbage

- I want supreme court justices who dont uphold the constitution

- I want a liberal supreme court

- I am indoctrinated by liberal media and education

- And any source or information that presents information you dont like is a fabrication bought and paid for by George soros.

You're living in a fantasy land dude. Stop rooting for a political team and viewing anybody who disagrees as the enemy.

 

[gkekoa]

Dude.. you cant be that hook line and sinker.

What Russia got more than anything else is

An America divided along party lines.

America and NATO on questionable footing.

America being the aggressor in trade wars.

And a situation where America is questioning the integrity of its OWN DOJ and the FBI.

Keep toting the party line and blaming Obama and Clinton. But the reality is, we are where we are with Trump at the helm.

America was already divided along party lines. That was obvious when Obama said he only needed a pen and a phone.

We should be on questionable footing.

We needed to finally stand up and stop bending over.

If the integrity is questionable, then shouldn’t it be questioned? You don’t question the higher ups with the evidence out there?

Does Trump have us in a bad place?

 

[gkekoa]

Yea.. got to maintain that balance after all.

Absolutely...if that balance you are referring is the law of the land.

The problem is, we are getting to a point where its not about compromise.. its win or lose politics, and people have chosen their sides. And I will stop there, cause I dont want to offend anyone.

I completely agree. At this point, isn’t it the democrats refusing to do anything? Trump wants them to come to the immigration table, and their response is Trump can take care of it easier...but it isn’t Trump’s job.

 

[Sharkinva]

You shouldn't stop there. I just watched some of the hearing today. How sad? We the people have become like this, the congress has become like this and IMO the last two presidents have been like this. You are either right or wrong. I long for the days when Tip O'Neal and President Reagan sniped at each other all day long then had a drink together that evening and found a way to work things out as best as possible.

I have watched some of your debate for some time here. I know you are smart people. The truth is none of you are right and none of you are wrong but the answer has to be somewhere in the middle. Well that is my opinion.

ONe thing I found very interesting from todays edition of kangaroo court..

They had reports months before the election that Russia had reached out to Trump to offer to help influence the election, and that the FBI made sure that information didnt get out before the election happened. If Stzok was so dead set to end a Trump win, dropping that bomb a month before the election might have changed things... then again probably not.

 

[skinsdad62]

Yes because anybody who disagrees with you is foolish.

Papadopoulos was a trump campaign adviser.

According to you...

- im lying about being a conservative.

- Im lying about reading the ig report

- I want open borders

- i want no border security

- I think hillary did nothing wrong

- i think tax cuts are garbage

- I want supreme court justices who dont uphold the constitution

- I want a liberal supreme court

- I am indoctrinated by liberal media and education

- And any source or information that presents information you dont like is a fabrication bought and paid for by George soros.

You're living in a fantasy land dude. Stop rooting for a political team and viewing anybody who disagrees as the enemy.

look we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this . i dont buy what you are saying . i buy you believe what you are saying is conservative but i dont buy it as it is

 

[skinsdad62]

ONe thing I found very interesting from todays edition of kangaroo court..

They had reports months before the election that Russia had reached out to Trump to offer to help influence the election, and that the FBI made sure that information didnt get out before the election happened. If Stzok was so dead set to end a Trump win, dropping that bomb a month before the election might have changed things... then again probably not.

what reports ? where ?

 

[Sharkinva]

what reports ? where ?

Did you actually WATCH it?? The man testified under oath that the FBI started this probe because they had recieved reports months before the election that there was contact between the Russians and Trumps camp about dirt on HIllary.

Now as Mueller is actually not leaking much, Im willing to let the man do his job and complete this probe.. .are you?

 

[skinsdad62]

Did you actually WATCH it?? The man testified under oath that the FBI started this probe because they had recieved reports months before the election that there was contact between the Russians and Trumps camp about dirt on HIllary.

Now as Mueller is actually not leaking much, Im willing to let the man do his job and complete this probe.. .are you?

i think 2 years is long enough dont you ? if he had anything on trump personally it would have already been leaked or out in the open by now

and the mueller , comey , strozk page rosenstein click doesnt convince me of any fairness at all i see plainly a cover up of HRC's crimes and made up crap by biased fbi political hacks

 

[Sharkinva]

i think 2 years is long enough dont you ? if he had anything on trump personally it would have already been leaked or out in the open by now

and the mueller , comey , strozk page rosenstein click doesnt convince me of any fairness at all i see plainly a cover up of HRC's crimes and made up crap by biased fbi political hacks

Actually its been 13 months. And 5 guilty pleas, another 19 indictments, and three upcoming trials.


Benghazi took two years and came up with bupkus, HIllarys emails took two years and also came up with BUpkus.

NOw look I hope they wrap it up and actually find nothing. I would feel a little less leary knowing the president is just a liar who cheated on multiple wives. That beats a liar, cheat and treasonous bastard in my book.

Mueller and Comey are Republicans appointed by Trump, you do know this right?? As is Rosenstien.


I agree there is a coverup.. its called the Senate and Trump and his associates. IM willing to buy Trump did nothing, but I think his boys, and his son in law might have some problems.

 

[gkekoa]

Actually its been 13 months. And 5 guilty pleas, another 19 indictments, and three upcoming trials.


Benghazi took two years and came up with bupkus, HIllarys emails took two years and also came up with BUpkus.

NOw look I hope they wrap it up and actually find nothing. I would feel a little less leary knowing the president is just a liar who cheated on multiple wives. That beats a liar, cheat and treasonous bastard in my book.

Mueller and Comey are Republicans appointed by Trump, you do know this right?? As is Rosenstien.


I agree there is a coverup.. its called the Senate and Trump and his associates. IM willing to buy Trump did nothing, but I think his boys, and his son in law might have some problems.

Benghazi took 13 months and the truth came out about the video not being the cause. The truth came out that HRC didn’t supply the defense needed that was requested in the weeks leading up to Benghazi. Was there an investigation of an actual crime?

Hillary’s emails should have led to a felony charge. Comey even wrote it up as such. Obama got him to change the wording. Comey admitted her guilt in front of the world. Since when did intent become a requirement for a crime? This is why the FBI is questionable to start.

Comey was not appointed by Trump. He was retained to continue his 10 year term. Considering the issues Trump has had, in unprecedented fashion, of getting his appointees approved, it made sense.

Mueller was appointed by Rosenstein...not Trump.

You are correct on Rosenstein. 1 out of 3 is pretty bad when you were being condescending to Dad in the statement.

Again...where is the crime?

 

[Sharkinva]

Benghazi took 13 months and the truth came out about the video not being the cause. The truth came out that HRC didn’t supply the defense needed that was requested in the weeks leading up to Benghazi. Was there an investigation of an actual crime?

Hillary’s emails should have led to a felony charge. Comey even wrote it up as such. Obama got him to change the wording. Comey admitted her guilt in front of the world. Since when did intent become a requirement for a crime? This is why the FBI is questionable to start.

Comey was not appointed by Trump. He was retained to continue his 10 year term. Considering the issues Trump has had, in unprecedented fashion, of getting his appointees approved, it made sense.

Mueller was appointed by Rosenstein...not Trump.

You are correct on Rosenstein. 1 out of 3 is pretty bad when you were being condescending to Dad in the statement.

Again...where is the crime?

5 guilty pleas, 2 pending trials and 19 indictments isnt enough for you?? Something tells me, if they were done, this would have been wrapped up already.

I get it, the sooner they can kill this, the better for Trump and the Republican party.

Sorry if I seem to be OK with them being diligent on this thing. Because this isnt just a question of if some one laundered money.

 

[ehb5]

look we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this . i dont buy what you are saying . i buy you believe what you are saying is conservative but i dont buy it as it is

I didn't say what i said here is conservative. I said that i am a conservative.

Instead of accepting that you have either completely misread everything i wrote or blatantly lied about everything i wrote while avoiding any direct questions or criticisms of your points. And now you'll finally duck out and act like ahh we just couldn't see eye to eye. *shrug* you do you.

 

[ehb5]

i think 2 years is long enough dont you ? if he had anything on trump personally it would have already been leaked or out in the open by now

and the mueller , comey , strozk page rosenstein click doesnt convince me of any fairness at all i see plainly a cover up of HRC's crimes and made up crap by biased fbi political hacks

Id love to hear an explanation of why and how Mueller is a hack whos leading a witch hunt and just out to get Trump.

 

[Sharkinva]

Id love to hear an explanation of why and how Mueller is a hack whos leading a witch hunt and just out to get Trump.

Mueller isnt a REAL Republican.

If he was, he would be following HIllary and proving she emailed Nuclear Sub plans and locations to Putin. Oh and that Obama knew and signed off on it.

#LockThemUp

 

[gkekoa]

5 guilty pleas, 2 pending trials and 19 indictments isnt enough for you?? Something tells me, if they were done, this would have been wrapped up already.

I get it, the sooner they can kill this, the better for Trump and the Republican party.

Sorry if I seem to be OK with them being diligent on this thing. Because this isnt just a question of if some one laundered money.

What are the charges?

Again, is collusion illegal?

Again, shouldn’t we question the FBI when it is apparent they did not do their job in prosecuting Hillary when they admit she broke the law?

 

[Sharkinva]

What are the charges?

Again, is collusion illegal?

Again, shouldn’t we question the FBI when it is apparent they did not do their job in prosecuting Hillary when they admit she broke the law?

Trump telling Comey to stop the investigation of Flynn would be Obstruction of Justice and possibly Abuse of Power. Two no no's for a sitting President.

No one has been charged with this yet. BUt if thats the case, are you willing to let it slide because you "Like his policies"??

And sounds to me like you are willing to sacrifice the FBI in order to save the President. Apparently so are some members of the Senate if todays proceedings are any indication.

 

[Sportster 72]

Bank fraud and collusion are very different crimes when not related to the charge of collusion. Yes Mueller has indicted people but not for anything related to collusion. I understand a crime is a crime but it is not what the special investigator was assigned to do. We will see, we all knew the Russians were meddling in our elections as well as others. Don't look for that to stop based on today's technology. It is not just the Russians …. this is going on worldwide.

 

[gkekoa]

Bank fraud and collusion are very different crimes when not related to the charge of collusion. Yes Mueller has indicted people but not for anything related to collusion. I understand a crime is a crime but it is not what the special investigator was assigned to do. We will see, we all knew the Russians were meddling in our elections as well as others. Don't look for that to stop based on today's technology. It is not just the Russians …. this is going on worldwide.

Thus the word...fishing.

 

[Sharkinva]

Bank fraud and collusion are very different crimes when not related to the charge of collusion. Yes Mueller has indicted people but not for anything related to collusion. I understand a crime is a crime but it is not what the special investigator was assigned to do. We will see, we all knew the Russians were meddling in our elections as well as others. Don't look for that to stop based on today's technology. It is not just the Russians …. this is going on worldwide.

Actually he was assigned to look into Russian Meddling in our election. As a Special Investigator he does have the authority to look into other crimes that may be discovered while he continues looking into the election tampering situation.

Call it a fishing trip if you like, but he is within the realm of what he has been tasked to do. And picking Party politics over the country is the only reason someone would call it a fishing expedition.

 

[Rowdy]

Uhhhh no. I think i have only stated one position that could be taken as liberal which is that im pro immigration. (Not pro open borders as you love to claim)

If you think a conservative cant have some more left leaning views than that means you want conservatives to be sheep that just follow orders and dont think on their own. Having a variety of opinions is ok.

I never said the tax cuts were garbage or that he hadnt done anything good. This is your problem. I dont know if its intentional or not but you debate against people that dont exist. I disagree with you on some things so you draw up this fantasy where im some evil indoctrinated liberal.

You are CONSTANTLY misstating my views. You are either not reading what i am writing or you feel the need (whether conscious or unconscious) to completly make up and restate what i am arguing in order to make yourself feel better about arguing against my points and to avoid admitting you might be wrong.

You need to actually read what i write and stop trying to misrepresent it. Be honest.

I hope you're not mistaking being a republican automatically makes you a conservative. I'll admit i don't read your 10 paragraph posts, but what I do read sounds more like the liberals I occasionally watch on msnbc