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Our Texas Rangers against the Oakland A's 9/2 -9/4

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For Rev,
Some Sabermetric considerations on bunting with runners on 1st/2nd
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The most fruitful situation for bunting comes from advancing runners on first and second to second and third. The WPAs are described in the table below, along with looking at different run environments. For reference, 4.5/game is about the MLB average now.

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These results show that bunting may be a viable strategy with runners on first and second, especially with a good bunter. Remember that we did these calculations only for the 9th inning though, and with the score tied. The numbers change when the bunting team is down a run, and it turns out that bunting is not quite as effective in this situation, but still viable.

So what can we conclude from this WPA analysis? In the proper run environment, that is, with strong pitching or weak hitting, a bunt may be a viable option. Also, it its most effective with runners on first and second, although this has been known for some time.

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A Sabermetric View of Bunting - Bless You Boys

Yes, but that clearly states those calculations only consider the scenario when the score is tied in the 9th. Both rev and I have stated that is one of the only times where bunting is a viable strategy.
 

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Oh.....one last point on AJ. He played for Ozzie Guillen in Chicago. And Ozzie had this quote: "When he plays against you, you hate him. When he plays with you, you hate him a little less."

Now that's pretty good, and speaks volumes about AJP.
 

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I have no desire to lay blame. AJ having hurt feelings; now that's funny. This guy is a professional at "rubbing salt into the nearest wound" kind of guy. AJ's good, trust me. As you suggested, let's lay the cards on the table and deal with it. We're all big boys here. Everyone wants to win, right? I'm not really making a suggestion. But like you, I do notice something, and it ain't good between Yu and AJ.

Right? lol.

If Yu opens up about what he's frustrated with or both ideally....I can absolutely see AJ saying..."alright, whatever it takes, let's just get on the same page", same for Yu.

Does AJ want to be known for the guy that couldn't get along with Yu Darvish? Hell no.
Bottom line, figure it boys/men.
 

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Right? lol.

If Yu opens up about what he's frustrated with or both ideally....I can absolutely see AJ saying..."alright, whatever it takes, let's just get on the same page", same for Yu.

Does AJ want to be known for the guy that couldn't get along with Yu Darvish? Hell no.
Bottom line, figure it boys/men.

Agreed. I don't want to see any more of this temper tantrums on the mound. I had a feeling as soon as I saw that the A's hitters smelled blood in the water.
 

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Right? lol.

If Yu opens up about what he's frustrated with or both ideally....I can absolutely see AJ saying..."alright, whatever it takes, let's just get on the same page", same for Yu.

Does AJ want to be known for the guy that couldn't get along with Yu Darvish? Hell no.
Bottom line, figure it boys/men.
If Soto could hit for average, he might catch all the pitchers more. He doesn't though and AJ gets the call in games such as this one today.
 

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Oh.....one last point on AJ. He played for Ozzie Guillen in Chicago. And Ozzie had this quote: "When he plays against you, you hate him. When he plays with you, you hate him a little less."

Now that's pretty good, and speaks volumes about AJP.

Yup, famous and good quote.

It at least appears from the outside that AJ has really gotten along with the team...and a little fire at times has been fun....and not one player looked like they weren't enjoying it. If I had to guess, Beltre and Kinsler/Nathan have NO problem with a little smack talk towards the other team. :noidea:

He has been known (speaking from anonymous players, that he has a problem with Rookies) I don't see any problem at all with Perez....and that's not the only rookie he's caught.

They'll work it out, they have to
 

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If Soto could hit for average, he might catch all the pitchers more. He doesn't though and AJ gets the call in games such as this one today.

Right, and in a little defense of Soto, he's just not getting many AB's, so that doesn't help.
He's a very good back-up catcher as far as I'm concerned.
 

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Agreed. I don't want to see any more of this temper tantrums on the mound. I had a feeling as soon as I saw that the A's hitters smelled blood in the water.

I didn't see it today, but I 'smelled' something last game.
This is one of those things that you DO NOT want to be right about.

like I just said, they'll work it out, they have to.
 

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Yup, famous and good quote.

It at least appears from the outside that AJ has really gotten along with the team...and a little fire at times has been fun....and not one player looked like they weren't enjoying it. If I had to guess, Beltre and Kinsler/Nathan have NO problem with a little smack talk towards the other team. :noidea:

He has been known (speaking from anonymous players, that he has a problem with Rookies) I don't see any problem at all with Perez....and that's not the only rookie he's caught.
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They'll work it out, they have to
And Perez doesn't pitch and act like a rookie. Draws well earned respect.
 

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Right? lol.

If Yu opens up about what he's frustrated with or both ideally....I can absolutely see AJ saying..."alright, whatever it takes, let's just get on the same page", same for Yu.

Does AJ want to be known for the guy that couldn't get along with Yu Darvish? Hell no.
Bottom line, figure it boys/men.

I gotta call a BS on ya in regards to "Does AJ want, etc. He didn't make the AS team last year, when he clearly deserved it, because the players didn't pick him. He blamed Wash for not picking him too. Also, in a poll about 2 months ago 50 "anonymous" players were asked who would they least want their sister to marry out of all the MLB players and AJ was # 1. Swear. A-Roid was a close 2nd. But AJ won. He's one of the most despised players to have ever played the game. He ain't Ty Cobb, but still. This said, he's done a very nice job for us this season. hahahaha
 

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Yes, but that clearly states those calculations only consider the scenario when the score is tied in the 9th. Both rev and I have stated that is one of the only times where bunting is a viable strategy.

You can read through the whole article. It comes off pretty arbitrary to me...I don't think there is a clear cut line for less than 9 either.

Do we have a guy red hot at the plate? No. Is he a decent bunter, yes. Pitcher throwing well? yes.

Are there some hitters coming that get a ball to the OF? yes.
Does tying up the game (at the very least) give a little momentum boost? IMO, yes
 

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And Perez doesn't pitch and act like a rookie. Draws well earned respect.

The Irony, I didn't want AJ...but he grew on me fast, I couldn't see any trouble from the outside anyway...rookies or not.

They'll work it out.
 

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I gotta call a BS on ya in regards to "Does AJ want, etc. He didn't make the AS team last year, when he clearly deserved it, because the players didn't pick him. He blamed Wash for not picking him too. Also, in a poll about 2 months ago 50 "anonymous" players were asked who would they least want their sister to marry out of all the MLB players and AJ was # 1. Swear. A-Roid was a close 2nd. But AJ won. He's one of the most despised players to have ever played the game. He ain't Ty Cobb, but still. This said, he's done a very nice job for us this season. hahahaha

oh do I know all about the polls, I crabbed about it when we snagged him, I didn't want him
lololol
I've obviously changed my mind,
bottom line, don't know what's going on, and don't want to lay the blame soley, on either...
 

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The Irony, I didn't want AJ...but he grew on me fast, I couldn't see any trouble from the outside anyway...rookies or not.

They'll work it out.
The one bright note of JDs last off season. Afraid he has to through the money around this next one.
 

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oh do I know all about the polls, I crabbed about it when we snagged him, I didn't want him
lololol
I've obviously changed my mind,
bottom line, don't know what's going on, and don't want to lay the blame soley, on either...
Probably nothing real terrible. Most all problems can be resolved if all parties want it to
 

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The one bright note of JDs last off season. Afraid he has to through the money around this next one.
Almost certain he will need to spend a little and I hope some on Mc Cann.
 

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I can't believe no one has mentioned how the Rangers batted out of order in the top of the 9th. Yet another feather in Ron Washington's cap, having your team bat out of order. I know it was a rout and didn't matter, but that is just embarrassing.
 

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This just goes to show how close the Rangers are to the Twins, Seattle, White Sox , Toronto, Baltimore. Rangers look like they are just Dragging . I really thought that going to Left coast, with the Cool Temps that it would refresh them.
I just have to Question the Rangers Mental and Physcial conditioning. Looks like 2 yrs of collapse, hope not but offense is trending down. Very sad to watch.
Tied for 1st, but doesn't feel like there is enough Energy to contend, maybe soft part of schedule gave a False signal to Rangers that they were better than they really were. O'well , I will still watch , good or bad. Hope for the Best.
 

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I can't believe no one has mentioned how the Rangers batted out of order in the top of the 9th. Yet another feather in Ron Washington's cap, having your team bat out of order. I know it was a rout and didn't matter, but that is just embarrassing.
Did know about it but good grief what in the world is happening? Ron needs a good 3rd base coaching job somewhere else.:omg:
 

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I can't believe no one has mentioned how the Rangers batted out of order in the top of the 9th. Yet another feather in Ron Washington's cap, having your team bat out of order. I know it was a rout and didn't matter, but that is just embarrassing.

It was, and you're right. But do keep in mind, the other team and the umpires were lost too, and it "really" falls on them more than us.

Not a great "resume" building moment for Wash for sure.
 
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