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Who do YOU think will win the Big 10?

  • Iowa

    Votes: 4 8.7%
  • Michigan State

    Votes: 3 6.5%
  • Ohio State

    Votes: 24 52.2%
  • Michigan

    Votes: 10 21.7%
  • Northwestern

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nebraska

    Votes: 4 8.7%
  • Wisconsin

    Votes: 1 2.2%

  • Total voters
    46
  • Poll closed .

rmilia1

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Regular season losses. FSU had twice as many as that just last season.
Why only regular season? If you don't care that much about conference titles then I'd assume you care less about regular season.
 

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Yeah but that explosion was a long time ago.
No program can stay at the top forever. Our downfall, while its lasted a while, hasn't been nearly as dramatic as a lot of other top programs. Since 1960 we haven't lost more than 7 games in a season, and that has only happened 3 times. Obviously we aren't where we want or expect to be, but the "Nebraska is dead" narrative is a bit excessive considering the downswings some other great programs have gone through.
 

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Ummm, no they're not. Not even close. Urban Meyer has only lost 1 regular season conference game since becoming the Buckeyes head coach and that came last year. Not even Saban did that his 1st 4 years at Bama. Wisconsin isn't a threat. It's Ohio State and everyone else.
Wisconsin has more B10 titles than OSU does the last 5 years.
 

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Why only regular season? If you don't care that much about conference titles then I'd assume you care less about regular season.
Funny coming from an Iowa fan. Not you in particular, but a lot of the Iowa fans around here have been acting like the last two games of last season never happened.
 

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Every league has that though. I don't get why people focus on the B10 in that respect when every league is the same. 1 top dog and 1 or 2 teams that compete with them annually. Name a league that's had more than 3 different league Champs in the last 5 years like the B10 has. You cant. It doesn't happen

Big 12 has had 5 different champs the last 5 years if you include co-champs:

'11 Okie jr
'12 KSU, OU (co champs)
'13 Baylor
'14 Baylor, TCU (co Champs)
'15 OU

Plus, the B1G hasn't had more than 3 different champs the last 5 years:

'11 Wisconsin
'12 Wisconsin
'13 MSU
'14 tOSU
'15 MSU
 

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Winning record since leather helmet days, more than 1 shared Natty since the 40's, move B1G titles since the 40's, move wins since the 40's, and much more class (r*pe coverup trumps tatoos).

I went with the 40's since who gives a rats ass about the leather helmet days. Well I know who, those that cant brag about their team in recent memory.

I care
 

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Funny coming from an Iowa fan. Not you in particular, but a lot of the Iowa fans around here have been acting like the last two games of last season never happened.
Iowa played 13.5 good games of football last year. Unfortunately the only truly shitty half they played all year came in the Rose Bowl. It is what it is. Pretending it didn't happen is dumb but likewise it's dumb to pretend Iowa wasn't 12-0 and 30 seconds from the CFP.
 

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Big 12 has had 5 different champs the last 5 years if you include co-champs:

'11 Okie jr
'12 KSU, OU (co champs)
'13 Baylor
'14 Baylor, TCU (co Champs)
'15 OU

Plus, the B1G hasn't had more than 3 different champs the last 5 years:

'11 Wisconsin
'12 Wisconsin
'13 MSU
'14 tOSU
'15 MSU

Lol. I guess but the B12 is a different creature because it has no title game. Obviously no other league has co-champs.
 

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Nebraska undefeated in regular season Big 8 and Big 12 conference games
1993 7-0
1994 7-0
1995 7-0
1996 8-0
1997 8-0

Nebraska 1 loss and 1 tie in regular season Big 8 and Big 12 conference games
1991 6-0-1
1992 6-1
1993 7-0
1994 7-0
1995 7-0
1996 8-0
1997 8-0
So about 20 years since we've seen this sort of conference dominance.
 

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Iowa played 13.5 good games of football last year. Unfortunately the only truly shitty half they played all year came in the Rose Bowl. It is what it is. Pretending it didn't happen is dumb but likewise it's dumb to pretend Iowa wasn't 12-0 and 30 seconds from the CFP.
Yeah. It's just these Iowa fans in Omaha (that all of a sudden popped out of the woodwork...never knew they were Iowa fans before last year) that act like they ended the season 12-0 with a national title.
 

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Yeah. It's just these Iowa fans in Omaha (that all of a sudden popped out of the woodwork...never knew they were Iowa fans before last year) that act like they ended the season 12-0 with a national title.
I try and be realistic. Iowa played a sub part schedule last year. That's fact. It's also fact that Iowa didn't trail in the second half of a game all year til the B10 title game. That means that while their schedule wasn't good they pretty much dominated it. That said this team isn't good enough to play a bad half and still beat a good team, of course that's true about 98% of CFB. If Iowa plays to potential this year they will be 11-1 or 12-0 again. If they don't then they could lose 3 or 4 games.
 

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Why only regular season? If you don't care that much about conference titles then I'd assume you care less about regular season.
FSU has 3 regular season ACC losses in the last 4 years (NC State, Ga Tech, Clemson). That's an elite Clemson team and two very average teams.
They've won conference titles over Ga Tech (2012; Ga Tech was, no bullshit, a 7-loss team that year), Duke (LOL), and Ga Tech again.

Ohio State won their conference title against top 15 Wisconsin in one of the largest CCG blowouts ever, and lost to 13-1 MSU in their other appearance. They would've been in (and won) last year if not for the flukiest ending to a CFB game ever in the MSU-michigan game.
They've lost two B1G games in 4 years, both against top 10 MSU teams, both in extremely close games that OSU held a 4th quarter lead in and would've won without mind-bogglingly bad play-calling.

Not exactly comparable bodies of work.
 
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