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Well 2 spots now not needed. Wonder if they sign on anywhere. I think they get on,y MILB contracts with invites to ST
 

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Good to see Gallo say he wants to be patient. Bet that was the mantra drilled in to achieve before April
 

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Well 2 spots now not needed. Wonder if they sign on anywhere. I think they get on,y MILB contracts with invites to ST
I hope we sign Tolleson to a minor league deal. He might be poised for a bounce back year. I remember at one time folks were glad to be rid of guys like Strop, Grimm, and O'Day because of temporary struggles that they were having. I was ready to be rid of Uehara before he bounced back.
 

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Good to see Gallo say he wants to be patient. Bet that was the mantra drilled in to achieve before April
He had 68 walks this year in AAA in 359 at bats. The Rangers leader at the big league level, Adrian Beltre, had 48 in more than 200 more at bats than Joey had.
 

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I hope we sign Tolleson to a minor league deal. He might be poised for a bounce back year. I remember at one time folks were glad to be rid of guys like Strop, Grimm, and O'Day because of temporary struggles that they were having. I was ready to be rid of Uehara before he bounced back.



They have not refused assignment last I heard. We have to add a few to the roster like Guzman. Guessing we are not active in Rule 5. I think a guy like Diekman, Alvarez and even LeClerc can rebound/improve this year. Our bullpen depth seems pretty good to me

This is why I if we lamd SP or at least depth there we may be able to move one like Kela who has great potential
 

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He had 68 walks this year in AAA in 359 at bats. The Rangers leader at the big league level, Adrian Beltre, had 48 in more than 200 more at bats than Joey had.

You hate to declaw Roogie but a little patience at the plate may land him more pitches.

Re Gallo. That many walks just show how little pitchers want to give him something decent. I really think his development in the minors is limited if pitchers won't pitch to him. May have to learn at the upper level at some point and stick him 8 in the order til he progresses
 

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You hate to declaw Roogie but a little patience at the plate may land him more pitches.

Re Gallo. That many walks just show how little pitchers want to give him something decent. I really think his development in the minors is limited if pitchers won't pitch to him. May have to learn at the upper level at some point and stick him 8 in the order til he progresses
Hopefully whatever made him struggle so much after August rolled around is something he can learn from.
 

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2B Ibanez and OF Heineman are both doing good in the AFL.
 

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What does the pitching in Venezuela compare to here, AA or AAA.
 

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What does the pitching in Venezuela compare to here, AA or AAA.
I am not sure that I have heard or read what it compares to. I do remember a couple of years ago Odubel Herrera hit well there and then proceeded to put together a very good year in the big leagues after we lost him in the Rule 5 draft.
 

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Another 1 for 3 night for Gallo with a walk and a strikeout. I guess he can even hit a single every now and then.
 

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Another 1 for 3 night for Gallo with a walk and a strikeout. I guess he can even hit a single every now and then.
The question is can he hit major league pitching. So far he has failed to do that.
 

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He had 68 walks this year in AAA in 359 at bats. The Rangers leader at the big league level, Adrian Beltre, had 48 in more than 200 more at bats than Joey had.
That may be because he put the barrel on the ball.
 

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That may be because he put the barrel on the ball.
Beltre has never and will never be a guy that gets on a ton via walks. It's sad that he was the leader as his BB rate was only 7.5%. Bennie is making a good point that Joey supplements his stuggles with his good eye. Batting average is mostly overrated if you still get on other ways. For example if Roogie could get his walk rate up to just 5% he would have his OBP over .300.
 

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The question is can he hit major league pitching. So far he has failed to do that.
So far he hasn't succeeded at that. I think there is a journey ahead of him that the Rangers have laid out for him to get to the point of being given a long term chance to prove that he can hit big league pitching. This Winter League stop is the first part of that journey. I think that journey includes at least one more leg and that is ST. That will probably be followed by a stint in AAA. As a local head coach likes to say it is a process. We might as well enjoy his progress at each step of the process. We don't have much else to do for awhile.
 

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Duane asked earlier how the Venezuela League compares to our minor leagues. I found out what some people think.

What are non-MLB associated baseball league talent equivalents? at Nationals Arm Race

Venezuela Winter League: The talent levels have dropped for a while, ever since political turmoil has taken over the country. This is highlighted especially close to home in 2011 with the Wilson Ramos kidnapping case. However, Nats farmhand Ryan Tatusko was kind enough to provide his opinion on the talent level and calls it “AAA talent.” I think at best its a low AAA, as the league is clearly lower quality than Puerto Rico. This last season’s version of the VWL seemed to be more talented that past versions though; perhaps this league is looking to challenge the DWL for pre-eminence in the winter leagues.

An Inside Look: The Caribbean Winter Leagues
 

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It is the 5 year anniversary. What an awful night that was.

October 27th, 2011. A date that will live in infamy.
 

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It is the 5 year anniversary. What an awful night that was.

October 27th, 2011. A date that will live in infamy.
Buck will never let us forget.
 

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The question is can he hit major league pitching. So far he has failed to do that.

well like someone said we could hit him in the 8 hole and just live with him hitting well south of the Mendoza line for most if not all of the season
 
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