NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[DJ Fieri]

The under went waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay under in the Chargers vs Pats game!!!!

 

[bksballer89]

This is would be a brutal loss for the Lions. Gotta give it to the Saints for fighting

Kamara, Hill, and Olave play so freaking hard

 

[bksballer89]

Been using Hill most of the game but don't use him on 3rd and 6

 

[thunderc]

The under went waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay under in the Chargers vs Pats game!!!!

Overs in Lions, Colts and Dolphins games so far

 

[thunderc]

Wilson and Payton getting ready to win another one

 

[thunderc]

Patriots committed to the worst record now

 

[bksballer89]

Wilson and Payton getting ready to win another one

Let russ cook lmao

 

[bksballer89]

Patriots committed to the worst record now

Respect the grind

 

[DJ Fieri]

@thunderc who did you go with?

 

[Gman]

Because there are certain things that teams are, for lack of a better term, "asked to do" in order to show that they "deserve" to be in.

A quick "list" would be something like...win all your games, win your conference championship, don't load up on cupcakes in your OOC games.

There are some other criteria that can be used for situations where a team or teams didn't do all that they were "asked to do" to determine who is deserving, or to "seed" teams, but those listed are the main ones.

FSU won all of their games, they won their conference championship and while they did play a couple of cupcakes OOC, they also played LSU and Florida.

They beat Florida with their back up QB and then won their conference championship game with their 3rd string QB.

I'd say that's "deserving".

What happened to FSU would be like the NBA coming to the Celtics before the playoffs and saying "Yeah, we know you have the best record in the East, but Tatum is out with an injury so you're not going to be able to be in the playoffs this year".

I can concede FSU had a great season.

But your argument here highlights that their SOS isn't all that. I mean... you talking up the Florida win... Florida got a losing record. And regarding the Louisville win... Louisville just lost to a mid-tier SEC team (Kentucky) the week before.

It was a tough call. But I think they got it right.

Anywho... now we know it'll be Dawgs vs Seminoles. We could talk this one to death and not get anywhere... we'll see if FSU can settle the matter on the field in their bowl game.

 

[thunderc]

@thunderc who did you go with?

Carr, Minshew only like 4 more points I think. Going to get a win regardless

 

[trojanfan12]

But your argument here highlights that their SOS isn't all that. I mean... you talking up the Florida win... Florida got a losing record. And regarding the Louisville win... Louisville just lost to a mid-tier SEC team (Kentucky) the week before.

Not how it works in cfb. The OOC games are often scheduled years in advance so you don't really know what you're going to get when it's actually time for the game.

If you schedule a P5 school years in advance, you are at least attempting to have a challenging OOC game because, generally speaking, you can expect to be facing at least a decent team. In FSU's case, Florida is their in-state rival and they play each other every year. It's not FSU's fault that Florida was down this year. FSU also scheduled LSU who is normally one of the better SEC teams (and was this year going 9-3). Scheduling those 2 was attempting to have 2 challenging OOC games. They also scheduled 2 "cupcakes". So, FSU had 4 OOC games and scheduled 2 SEC schools (and beat them both) and 2 cupcakes.

Alabama also had 4 OOC games. They chose to schedule Texas and 3 cupcakes and they lost to Texas at home.

Seems like the team with 2 OOC wins against P5 teams and 2 wins against cupcakes would have a stronger case than the team with 3 wins over cupcakes and a loss to the one P5 team they played.

Louisville was still a top 25 ranked team and since it was the CCG, FSU couldn't exactly schedule a better opponent.

 

[trojanfan12]

It was a tough call. But I think they got it right.

Based on what?

Because based on precedent, they didn't get it right.

This is the first time an unbeaten P5 conference champion has been left out and the first time an injured player has been used as an excuse to keep a team out.

 

[Gman]

Based on what?

Based on the fact that I think (JMO) Bama is the better team. This opinion is heavily influenced by the unfortunate current QB situation at FSU.

I'd rather the better teams play and (therefore hopefully) we get better games come playoff time.

Beyond that, Bama faced a somewhat tougher schedule in a clearly better conference. That can (and probably should) matter too.

Again... FSU will have a great opportunity to prove the likes of me wrong when they face off against the Dawgs.

 

[thunderc]

FSU getting Georgia is just a double f u. The argument here is that we didn’t hear this “best teams” crap until earlier this week. By the criteria used every year up to now FSU deserved to go. I think they used the fact that it’s the last year with 4 to say f it we will just do what we want.

 

[trojanfan12]

Based on the fact that I think (JMO) Bama is the better team. This opinion is heavily influenced by the unfortunate current QB situation at FSU.

I'd rather the better teams play and (therefore hopefully) we get better games come playoff time.

Beyond that, Bama faced a somewhat tougher schedule in a clearly better conference. That can (and probably should) matter too.

Again... FSU will have a great opportunity to prove the likes of me wrong when they face off against the Dawgs.

Problem is that they won't be able to prove it in the cfp as they should.

And I'm not saying Alabama isn't the better team. In fact, with Saban and a month to prepare, if I were a gambler, I'd probably bet on them to win the NC.

But based on what the criteria has always been and on previous precedent, the 4 teams should be UM, UW, FSU and Texas. They had to bump Texas from #7 to #3 and Alabama from #8 to #4 to drop FSU to #5 even though FSU didn't lose to get this outcome.

I think it was @bksballer89 who mentioned SEC bias earlier...SEC bias has always been there to a point, but there was always at least some obvious logic behind it and they didn't go against established precedent.

This is the last year of the 4 team playoff, so it's like they just said "Fuck it, it's the last year, so we're just gonna do whatever we want".

 

[bksballer89]

Problem is that they won't be able to prove it in the cfp as they should.

And I'm not saying Alabama isn't the better team. In fact, with Saban and a month to prepare, if I were a gambler, I'd probably bet on them to win the NC.

But based on what the criteria has always been and on previous precedent, the 4 teams should be UM, UW, FSU and Texas. They had to bump Texas from #7 to #3 and Alabama from #8 to #4 to drop FSU to #5 even though FSU didn't lose to get this outcome.

I think it was @bksballer89 who mentioned SEC bias earlier...SEC bias has always been there to a point, but there was always at least some obvious logic behind it and they didn't go against established precedent.

This is the last year of the 4 team playoff, so it's like they just said "Fuck it, it's the last year, so we're just gonna do whatever we want".

Yep that RG 3 tweet was so perfect. It is also funny to hear the different narrative between Michigan and FSU last night. You would never know fsu offense did more than Michigan last night

 

[Gman]

Problem is that they won't be able to prove it in the cfp as they should.

And I'm not saying Alabama isn't the better team. In fact, with Saban and a month to prepare, if I were a gambler, I'd probably bet on them to win the NC.

But based on what the criteria has always been and on previous precedent, the 4 teams should be UM, UW, FSU and Texas. They had to bump Texas from #7 to #3 and Alabama from #8 to #4 to drop FSU to #5 even though FSU didn't lose to get this outcome.

I think it was @bksballer89 who mentioned SEC bias earlier...SEC bias has always been there to a point, but there was always at least some obvious logic behind it and they didn't go against established precedent.

This is the last year of the 4 team playoff, so it's like they just said "Fuck it, it's the last year, so we're just gonna do whatever we want".

I'll concede the point about precedent.

Aside from that, (simply put) it's easier to get that perfect record when you're in an easier conference. Which is what the ACC is compared to the SEC.

Frankly, I feel the worst for UGA in all this. I think the Dawgs got jobbed by the refs vs Bama.

Anywho, if UGA was matched against a relative lightweight like Louisville yesterday... they'd be in the playoffs today. So maybe SEC bias isn't all it's cracked up to be.

 

[bksballer89]

I'll concede the point about precedent.

Aside from that, (simply put) it's easier to get that perfect record when you're in an easier conference. Which is what the ACC is compared to the SEC.

Frankly, I feel the worst for UGA in all this. I think the Dawgs got jobbed by the refs vs Bama.

Anywho, if UGA was matched against a relative lightweight like Louisville yesterday... they'd be in the playoffs today. So maybe SEC bias isn't all it's cracked up to be.

I find it funny how fsu struggles the last 2 games was brought up but not a word said about bama struggles last week vs auburn. SEC biased is a real thing

 

[Think McFly Think]

I'll concede the point about precedent.

Aside from that, (simply put) it's easier to get that perfect record when you're in an easier conference. Which is what the ACC is compared to the SEC.

Frankly, I feel the worst for UGA in all this. I think the Dawgs got jobbed by the refs vs Bama.

Anywho, if UGA was matched against a relative lightweight like Louisville yesterday... they'd be in the playoffs today. So maybe SEC bias isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Didn’t the ACC have a winning record against the SEC this year?