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[shopson67]

Not sure, which is why I don't understand why tlance is criticizing the fact they have waited so far. We also don't know what Baker wants.

Pretty safe to say that Allen's deal is the starting point.

 

[shopson67]

The Mahomes deal happened long before it had to because KC approached him with a figure he couldn’t turn down.

And it will look like a bargain in a few years.

It only looks like a bargain if he stays healthy. Even if lesser talented QBs make more, still need him on the field or any QB deal becomes crippling.

 

[shopson67]

Heard the wildfire smoke from the fires out west have stretched all the way to the east coast. You dealing with any of that where you're at?

Not that I can detect.

 

[Wamu]

Not that I can detect.

That's good to hear.

 

[dtgold88]

Baker said Allen contract is a win for all qbs....yeah browns going to end up offering 45-50 mil yearly. Should have done his deal before Allen or Jackson

So you and tlance keep saying. But Baker has to agree.

Curious, before you saw what Allen made what would you have been willing to pay Baker?

 

[dtgold88]

No substantive negotiations means exactly what it means. That they haven’t had serious talks.

You twist that all the way to:

“They have not spoken at all”

That is total BS and not what I said.

The twisting here is you as I meant to say what you said and even said as I did they are very similar comments. Nice try.

what, exactly, did you mean by no serious talks? Fake talks?

 

[dtgold88]

The Mahomes deal happened long before it had to because KC approached him with a figure he couldn’t turn down.

And it will look like a bargain in a few years.

Cleveland could have done that with Baker. Every time another QB gets paid, Baker’s asking price goes up. And it doesn’t even matter if he is as good as the other guy getting paid.

And if the Browns approach Baker with a figure he cannot turn down make no mistake instead you'd be ripping them for overpaying Baker.

you do have an agenda here and that's cool. Just own it.

 

[dtgold88]

Michael Thomas back at it lol.

I never switched on a player on my favorite team so fast. What a tool

a while away but where would you be willing to take him in a fantasy draft (in spite of your disdain for him)?

 

[dtgold88]

Pretty safe to say that Allen's deal is the starting point.

OK?

 

[tlance]

It only looks like a bargain if he stays healthy. Even if lesser talented QBs make more, still need him on the field or any QB deal becomes crippling.

And that is a gamble you make all day every day with your franchise QB.

Because again, you are crippled anyway if he gets hurt or starts sucking.

 

[bksballer89]

So you and tlance keep saying. But Baker has to agree.

Curious, before you saw what Allen made what would you have been willing to pay Baker?

1 million

 

[bksballer89]

a while away but where would you be willing to take him in a fantasy draft (in spite of your disdain for him)?

Ehh 3rd round ish. Sounds like he should be back late September/ early October but the QB situation would scare ppl away as well

 

[dtgold88]

1 million

great...then you must think Browns were right not to have signed him?

 

[dtgold88]

Ehh 3rd round ish. Sounds like he should be back late September/ early October but the QB situation would scare ppl away as well

agree with last part...was actually thinking a lot later than 3rd. 5-7th or later even.

Picking 9th and thinking I might go RB, RB as seems to be more stud WRs to take later.

 

[Wamu]

@dtgold88 @Stakesarehigh @Shanemansj13

On this day 85 years ago Ohio State's Jesse Owens became the first American to win four gold medals. 100m, 200m, long jump & 4x100 relay. Legendary.

 

[thunderc]

mayfield will not get what Allen got, nor should he.

 

[Black Adam]

mayfield will not get what Allen got, nor should he.

i ain't so sure. i think this is EXACTLY what Mayfield had in mind. let's be real, franchise QB's don't grow on trees. i think he WILL get more than Allen, ESPECIALLY when you throw in his draft status...

 

[thunderc]

i ain't so sure. i think this is EXACTLY what Mayfield had in mind. let's be real, franchise QB's don't grow on trees. i think he WILL get more than Allen, ESPECIALLY when you throw in his draft status...

Just my opinion, but I don’t think he will. He is certainly not as good as Allen.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Just my opinion, but I don’t think he will. He is certainly not as good as Allen.

I would still like to see one more year out of Allen. Got to give it to him bc early in his career he was looking like a bust. The kid worked his ass off and made a historic improvement. He is an athletic freak. But there was some stat said last year he had the most dropped INT's or something like that. We will see, I would love for Baker to get about $35M/year or less but not likely. He proved himself to be a leader on a playoff team that is good enough to get the big bucks. In the end it really doesn't matter if Baker gets the Browns deep in the playoffs or wins a SB they can pay him whatever they want, all that matters is he wins (whether people want to give him credit for it or not).

 

[tlance]

Just my opinion, but I don’t think he will. He is certainly not as good as Allen.

He is most certainly not as good as Allen.

But my bet is that he gets more than Allen because he will sign a year later.