NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[DJ Fieri]

Regarding that damn MNF game.....

Since the start of the 2021 reg season the Raiders are 0 for 6 on 2 point conversions.

Yet, they are 7-2 with Carr in OT.

 

[Robotech]

No doubt.

I think that animal rights protester who got knocked down by Bobby Wagner at the Rams-Niners game will be suing, too. LOL.

 

[Robotech]

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Oh, I get it.

But IMO, if you want to talk about which person’s actions are more indicative of flawed character in this instance…

I say it is the cameraman.

Suing over something like that is lame as hell.

Yea. Lame. Bad move by devante but it was heat of the moment

 

[fightinfunbags]

Regarding that damn MNF game.....

Since the start of the 2021 reg season the Raiders are 0 for 6 on 2 point conversions.

Yet, they are 7-2 with Carr in OT.

Your boy Carr can fucking blow me. I lost fantasy by .5 pts. He throws a wide open Adams off the field. That play shouldn’t have even been close if the ball was where it should be. From the Boy Blunder offensive genius to the QB y’all are wasting the best WR in the game. Fucking sad. Fuck your Raiders.

 

[thunderc]

That camera man will never see the field again after this lawsuit.

I wouldn’t bet on that, not if he has good reviews and such.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Your boy Carr can fucking blow me. I lost fantasy by .5 pts. He throws a wide open Adams off the field. That play shouldn’t have even been close if the ball was where it should be. From the Boy Blunder offensive genius to the QB y’all are wasting the best WR in the game. Fucking sad. Fuck your Raiders.

Fuck you.

McDumbass was a horrible hire and a lot in here defended it.

 

[tlance]

Regarding that damn MNF game.....

Since the start of the 2021 reg season the Raiders are 0 for 6 on 2 point conversions.

Yet, they are 7-2 with Carr in OT.

See that is the thing though.

I agree with the decision to go for 2.

What you are not considering is the impact that decision had on KC’s offensive play calling.

How many times out of 10 do you think Mahomes leads them to a score to win the game with 4 minutes left?

I am going well over 80% there. Maybe 90%.

Playing with a 1 point lead, the dynamic changes. They play call to run clock instead of to score. Raiders are MUCH more likely to get a stop in that situation.

And they did.

As backwards as it sounds, going for 2 and missing probably gives LV a better chance of winning than kicking the extra point.

The issue you should have is with the 4th and 1 play call. Make 4th down there and LV wins the game.

And even then, they made the same call on 4th and 1 earlier and hit it for a TD.

 

[thunderc]

Fuck you.

McDumbass was a horrible hire and a lot in here defended it.

I still think the guy can end up being a good hire. Remember all the talk about how good that division would be?

 

[bksballer89]

Regarding that damn MNF game.....

Since the start of the 2021 reg season the Raiders are 0 for 6 on 2 point conversions.

Yet, they are 7-2 with Carr in OT.

Still horrible decision considering how much time was left

 

[bksballer89]

Your boy Carr can fucking blow me. I lost fantasy by .5 pts. He throws a wide open Adams off the field. That play shouldn’t have even been close if the ball was where it should be. From the Boy Blunder offensive genius to the QB y’all are wasting the best WR in the game. Fucking sad. Fuck your Raiders.

No lies told

 

[DJ Fieri]

Still horrible decision considering how much time was left

Of course it was a horrible decision, that's why I posted it.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I still think the guy can end up being a good hire. Remember all the talk about how good that division would be?

And that talk of the AFC West was clearly a lie.

Chargers gonna Charger and RW isn't cooking in Denver with their own dumbass HC.

 

[DJ Fieri]

See that is the thing though.

I agree with the decision to go for 2.

What you are not considering is the impact that decision had on KC’s offensive play calling.

How many times out of 10 do you think Mahomes leads them to a score to win the game with 4 minutes left?

I am going well over 80% there. Maybe 90%.

Playing with a 1 point lead, the dynamic changes. They play call to run clock instead of to score. Raiders are MUCH more likely to get a stop in that situation.

And they did.

As backwards as it sounds, going for 2 and missing probably gives LV a better chance of winning than kicking the extra point.

The issue you should have is with the 4th and 1 play call. Make 4th down there and LV wins the game.

And even then, they made the same call on 4th and 1 earlier and hit it for a TD.

I also have an issue with the play call on 4th but they should have kicked the extra point.

 

[dtgold88]

Regarding that damn MNF game.....

Since the start of the 2021 reg season the Raiders are 0 for 6 on 2 point conversions.

Yet, they are 7-2 with Carr in OT.

you had to be screaming at that decision. I get going for it instead of kicking a FG often, even doing what he did if there were, say, 30 seconds left. But 4 minutes?

What did he say when questioned about it?

 

[dtgold88]

Fuck you.

McDumbass was a horrible hire and a lot in here defended it.

Hell, not sure it was a lot but I know some ripped the Browns when they didn't hire him.

 

[fightinfunbags]

you had to be screaming at that decision. I get going for it instead of kicking a FG often, even doing what he did if there were, say, 30 seconds left. But 4 minutes?

What did he say when questioned about it?

My take on this:
Whether they kick it or they go for it and don’t get it or they go for it and get it…they have to play defense vs Mahomes anyway. The only thing I can say on behalf of the decision is this. It’s really unorthodox but seeing as it was a run play, I’m thinking maybe he doesn’t WANT to get that 2 points. I know. On the surface, pretty crazy but hear me out. The Chiefs offensive strength isn’t in running the football and taking the air out of the ball. That’s a lot of time they have to run out. The Chiefs have little impetus to score there. They just want possession. You’re putting the Chiefs in a spot where they’re just an average offense. Down 1 or tied, they milk that clock while the defense has to play “keep it in front of you” and they win on a walk off FG. Maybe I’m talking out my ass and that’s not how he assessed it. Ironically, if that’s what he wanted, it worked. They got the ball back with plenty of time and only needing a FG. The problem in his calculus is the fact that his QB is really just a marginal guy and not a winner and he failed to execute when it was winning time.

 

[tlance]

I also have an issue with the play call on 4th but they should have kicked the extra point.

Analytics say no.

Give the ball to Mahomes with 4 minutes left in a tie game and there is little pressure.

Down 1?

Different story.

Up 1?

Again different.

It is like the easiest end of clock shot in basketball is with the score tied.

You miss? No big deal. You still got a chance in OT.

The favorite plays to tie the game. The road dog going for 2 is a good play.

 

[tlance]

My take on this:
Whether they kick it or they go for it and don’t get it or they go for it and get it…they have to play defense vs Mahomes anyway. The only think I can say on behalf of the decision is this. It’s really unorthodox but seeing as it was a run play, I’m thinking maybe he doesn’t WANT to get that 2 points. I know. On the surface, pretty crazy but hear me out. The Chiefs offensive strength isn’t in running the football and taking the air out of the ball. That’s a lot of time they have to run out. The Chiefs have little impetus to score there. They just want possession. You’re putting the Chiefs in a spot where they’re just an average offense. Down 1 or tied, they milk that clock while the defense has to play “keep it in front of you” and they win on a walk off FG. Maybe I’m talking out my ass and that’s not how he assessed it. Ironically, if that’s what he wanted, it worked. They got the ball back with plenty of time and only needing a FG. The problem in his calculus is the fact that his QB is really just a marginal guy and not a winner and he failed to execute when it was winning time.

I don’t think he tried to miss the conversion.

But, Especially seeing how it played out, I agree that missing the conversion and being down 1 might have given the Raiders the best chance of winning.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Charles Robinson: If Browns defense doesn't improve, coaching changes may come - Baskin & Phelps

About damn time but I think if they win here and there then a change won’t happen until the offseason. Sooner rather than later