NBA fines Houston but not LA for Howard fiasco?

[valiant_thor]

Houston's GM tweeted that Dwight chosed the Rockets and was fined for the announcement. Shouldn't LA's GM also be fined for announcing Dwight's decision not to come back? They both violated the league's free agent moratorium rule.

 

[trojanfan12]

I could be wrong, but I think it's because Kupchak didn't mention where he was going, just that he isn't going to be staying with the Lakers!!

 

[True Lakers Fan]

No - because the Lakers general manager never said anything - it was the Houston gm and head coach that tweeted they had a confirmed deal between Howard and he was now a Rocket. Verbal agreements may be reached but are not binding contracts until signed and that means either side may back out once the moratorium has been lifted. Go back a few years when Elton Brand agreed to sign with the Clippers, then went to Philadelphia and screwed them over instead.

 

[HammerDown]

No team should be fined when the fiasco was 100% the doing of Dwightmare.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

I could be wrong, but I think it's because Kupchak didn't mention where he was going, just that he isn't going to be staying with the Lakers!!

Kupchak never said anything about the Lakers having a confirmed deal with any player. In this case the op is full of shit and is merely trying to start something - No one could be so retarded that they think Kupchak should have been fined.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Houston's GM tweeted that Dwight chosed the Rockets and was fined for the announcement. Shouldn't LA's GM also be fined for announcing Dwight's decision not to come back? They both violated the league's free agent moratorium rule.

Announcing that Dwight was leaving Los Angeles is not the same as stating that a contract with a player has been completed during the moratorium that disallows that. So no - the Lakers did not violate any rules. Kupchak could have just as easily called Dwight a piece of shit that's leaving Los Angeles and still would not be violating any rules. It wouldn't have been a nice thing to say, and he might have gotten fined for foul language, but nothing else

 

[valiant_thor]

Kupchak never said anything about the Lakers having a confirmed deal with any player. In this case the op is full of shit and is merely trying to start something - No one could be so retarded that they think Kupchak should have been fined.

"We have been informed of Dwight's decision not to return to the Lakers". Is this not a confirmation that Dwight decided not to return to the Lakers?

Statement from Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak | THE OFFICIAL SITE OF THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS

 

[trojanfan12]

"We have been informed of Dwight's decision not to return to the Lakers". Is this not a confirmation that Dwight decided not to return to the Lakers?

Statement from Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak | THE OFFICIAL SITE OF THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS

Yes, but it's not a confirmed deal struck with a team!! The point of not being able to say anything during the moratorium is so that a team can't manipulate the process and potentially hurt another teams chances or interest!! Saying that a player isn't coming to your team doesn't do that!!

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

"We have been informed of Dwight's decision not to return to the Lakers". Is this not a confirmation that Dwight decided not to return to the Lakers?

Statement from Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak | THE OFFICIAL SITE OF THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS

Are you paying attention to the replies on this thread?

 

[David_son]

Why fine LA.... It a day to celebrate that Dwight Howard is not on your team of course your going to want to announce it to the world.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

"We have been informed of Dwight's decision not to return to the Lakers". Is this not a confirmation that Dwight decided not to return to the Lakers?

Statement from Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak | THE OFFICIAL SITE OF THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS

That is not a statement confirming an agreement to sign - it's just a confirmation that Howard is not returning to the Lakers. Howard could have easily told the front office that on the last day of the playoffs and the Lakers could have easily announced that before - Still legal. You need to understand the law of contracts and the moratorium disallows any contracts to be signed. Houston indicated that they had such a contract.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Why fine LA.... It a day to celebrate that Dwight Howard is not on your team of course your going to want to announce it to the world.

In order to fina a team, the team first has to violate a rule or the rule

The rule is no contracts may be signed until the moratorium is lifted. Teams may make verbal agreements on the terms of a contract, but the CBA does not permit that contract to be confirmed and when Houston confirmed that they had an agreement indicating it was a done deal, they subsequently violated that rule.

The Lakers did not confirm any agreements, they merely announced that Howard was a prick

 

[Heatles84]

No - because the Lakers general manager never said anything - it was the Houston gm and head coach that tweeted they had a confirmed deal between Howard and he was now a Rocket. Verbal agreements may be reached but are not binding contracts until signed and that means either side may back out once the moratorium has been lifted. Go back a few years when Elton Brand agreed to sign with the Clippers, then went to Philadelphia and screwed them over instead.

I almost forgot about that. He convinced Baron Davis to sign with the Clippers and then left town afterwards. What an asshole.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

I almost forgot about that. He convinced Baron Davis to sign with the Clippers and then left town afterwards. What an asshole.

No doubt Brand was an asshole, but ironically did the Clippers a huge favor considering what a loser he turned out to be

 

[Heatles84]

No doubt Brand was an asshole, but ironically did the Clippers a huge favor considering what a loser he turned out to be

Can't disagree with that statement.

 

[shitsho]

That is not a statement confirming an agreement to sign - it's just a confirmation that Howard is not returning to the Lakers. Howard could have easily told the front office that on the last day of the playoffs and the Lakers could have easily announced that before - Still legal. You need to understand the law of contracts and the moratorium disallows any contracts to be signed. Houston indicated that they had such a contract.

You are full of shit TLF! You didn't even understand the rule and you're trying to chastise someone else? On the other thread you said Howard caused Houston to get fined?

 

[BOTSLAYER]

TLF just explained the rule, and quite efficiently I thought.

I still think their fine was BS though and that the it was over the verbage they used but whatever.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

You are full of shit TLF! You didn't even understand the rule and you're trying to chastise someone else? On the other thread you said Howard caused Houston to get fined?

NO ASSHOLE - YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT AND YOU ARE SO FUCKIN STUPID THAT YOU DON'T KNOW IT. I explained the rule and players and teams are not allowed during the moratorium to sign contracts. In the law of contracts a verbal contract is not valid or binding in the NBA period. For any team to comment on a verbal agreement and state that they(the team) has a confirmed agreement with a player(like Dwight Howard) is a violation of the moratorium. There is absolutely no violation in a general manager or owner saying that Dwight Howard wouldn't be signing with them. Let's not forget that Mark Cuban also made the same statement and I don't see you bitching about him. The Warriors and and one other team also were trying to contact Howard and I think one of them also made a statement, so get your fuckin facts straight moron

 

[shitsho]

NO ASSHOLE - YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT AND YOU ARE SO FUCKIN STUPID THAT YOU DON'T KNOW IT. I explained the rule and players and teams are not allowed during the moratorium to sign contracts. In the law of contracts a verbal contract is not valid or binding in the NBA period. For any team to comment on a verbal agreement and state that they(the team) has a confirmed agreement with a player(like Dwight Howard) is a violation of the moratorium. There is absolutely no violation in a general manager or owner saying that Dwight Howard wouldn't be signing with them. Let's not forget that Mark Cuban also made the same statement and I don't see you bitching about him. The Warriors and and one other team also were trying to contact Howard and I think one of them also made a statement, so get your fuckin facts straight moron

Whoa TLF! Take a deep breath man. You know what t'm talking about. Dont play dumb now. On the other thread you said Howard caused Houston to get fined because he tweeted he was going with them. You were wrong and I pointed it out. Now youre trying to criticize someone else? Too funny. Show me where I bitched about anything.

 

[Black Belt Disciple]

Whoa TLF! Take a deep breath man. You know what t'm talking about. Dont play dumb now. On the other thread you said Howard caused Houston to get fined because he tweeted he was going with them. You were wrong and I pointed it out. Now youre trying to criticize someone else? Too funny. Show me where I bitched about anything.

Wow. Montsho just served you up something proper.