More Whining from an SEC Coach

[ericd7633]

Also, Bama played 10 bowl teams during the regular season(including CCG) Those teams went 5-5, any impact on their SOS would have been a push IMO.

 

[umichgradfan]

It is a hit, but it's only 1 game out of 13.

It's funny how much people act like the bowl games are the only things that exist after the season are over. Never understood it.

And, yet that's the argument that people made against the B1G for years. Hmmmm. Apparently the shoe is on the other foot.

 

[ellupo]

Okay, so it's been established that you don't think Wisconsin is any good, and you're trying to argue that Ohio State played a tougher schedule down the stretch?

No, I never said that.

 

[ellupo]

So you believe Ohio St didn't deserve a chance at the playoffs to start with.

I mean, if losing 1 OOC game is somehow the definition of the season and proof teams suck.

I never said that either.

 

[7Samurai13]

Also, Bama played 10 bowl teams during the regular season(including CCG) Those teams went 5-5, any impact on their SOS would have been a push IMO.

Not all wins/losses are equal. Missouri losing to Indiana is not the same as Wisconsin losing to LSU

 

[BoiseMike19]

I doubt a non-P5 team makes the CFP anytime soon. Boise St was straight up used for an agenda, the CFP had nothing to do with making things better for teams like Boise, the committee is there to make sure it doesn't happen.

Okay, now I'm pissed.......

 

[4down20]

I never said that either.

Well which is it? If 1 OOC loss on the season is proof that teams are over-rated, then where does Ohio St fall in that category since you lost to VT?

How does Ohio St even deserve to get into the playoffs to start with in order to beat Alabama and then Oregon as your only OOC game up to that point was a loss.

Or is "they didn't play anyone until then" only valid when SEC teams play other SEC teams, and not when Big10 teams play Big10 teams? Or is there some other big OOC game on Ohio St's schedule last year that we are unaware of?

 

[4down20]

Okay, now I'm pissed.......

Sorry, just being honest.

It's the only real reason for a committee over BCS type rankings IMO. Boise St would be able to make top4 in that kind of format, but committee will punish much harder for SoS.

 

[ericd7633]

No, I never said that.

You're claiming that everyone in the SEC West is overrated b/c a majority of them lost their bowl game. LSU was one of those team's that lost their bowl game(albeit meaningless, and this coming from an ND fan) and they beat Wisconsin in a game that mattered, does that mean then Wisconsin is overrated too, since they couldn't beat LSU?

 

[4down20]

Not all wins/losses are equal. Missouri losing to Indiana is not the same as Wisconsin losing to LSU

I agree.

Big12 fans go nuts on me for saying such things however.

 

[ellupo]

Well which is it? If 1 OOC loss on the season is proof that teams are over-rated, then where does Ohio St fall in that category since you lost to VT?

How does Ohio St even deserve to get into the playoffs to start with in order to beat Alabama and then Oregon as your only OOC game up to that point was a loss.

Or is "they didn't play anyone until then" only valid when SEC teams play other SEC teams, and not when Big10 teams play Big10 teams? Or is there some other big OOC game on Ohio St's schedule last year that we are unaware of?

See you are forgetting nobody was chest thumping about SoS and all those high rankings when tOSU got the OOC loss. However it was being done for the SEC until they played their bowls and then got that loss. You do not get to say how its super tough and get all that SoS cred and not take a major hit after the losses and to the validity of that SoS they were getting.

 

[BoiseMike19]

The SEC is figuring out their time in the sun has come and gone. I hope they enjoyed the ride, because it's over now.

This is a football thread, are you lost?

 

[umichgradfan]

See you are forgetting nobody was chest thumping about SoS and all those high rankings when tOSU got the OOC loss. However it was being done for the SEC until they played their bowls and then got that loss. You do not get to say how its super tough and get all that SoS cred and not take a major hit after the losses and to the validity of that SoS they were getting.

Spot on, Ellupo

 

[ellupo]

You're claiming that everyone in the SEC West is overrated b/c a majority of them lost their bowl game. LSU was one of those team's that lost their bowl game(albeit meaningless, and this coming from an ND fan) and they beat Wisconsin in a game that mattered, does that mean then Wisconsin is overrated too, since they couldn't beat LSU?

Wisky finished 13 after beating Auburn in the bowl, that is about right IMO.

 

[4down20]

See you are forgetting nobody was chest thumping about SoS and all those high rankings when tOSU got the OOC loss. However it was being done for the SEC until they played their bowls and then got that loss. You do not get to say how its super tough and get all that SoS cred and not take a major hit after the losses and to the validity of that SoS they were getting.

You claimed the SEC teams didn't play anyone until the end of the year and then that proved they were over-rated because they lost an OOC game.

So again, going into the playoffs Ohio St was in that exact same scenario.

 

[7Samurai13]

Bottom line is blaming losses on "Being too tired" After nearly a month off and when "the draft grades are released" are exponentially lamer excuses than "we played road games".

 

[ericd7633]

Wisky finished 13 after beating Auburn in the bowl, that is about right IMO.

But, but, but Wisconsin must be overrated right because they lost to LSU, and everybody in the B1G West proved to be overrated based on their bowl game performance(Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa and Illinois all lost their bowl game)

 

[ellupo]

But, but, but Wisconsin must be overrated right because they lost to LSU, and everybody in the B1G West proved to be overrated based on their bowl game performance(Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa and Illinois all lost their bowl game)

ok

 

[4down20]

Bottom line is blaming losses on "Being too tired" After nearly a month off and when "the draft grades are released" are exponentially lamer excuses than "we played road games".

Except Saban never actually used that as an excuse and it was nothing but media trying to drive clicks/views that brought it.

It was pretty pathetic journalism in general. Kind of crap you might expect on a message forum, not from people who claim to be professionals. Not a single person actually asked him anything about Ohio St directly. Not a single one of them asked Saban to clarify if that is what he meant. Not a single one of them took any of his other quotes where he gives Ohio St all the credit in the world.

He was interviewed by Finebaum later in the day and Finebaum asked him etc. And Saban said directly it wasn't an excuse, wasn't try to make an excuse and gave all the credit to Ohio St(as would be expected).

 

[ellupo]

You claimed the SEC teams didn't play anyone until the end of the year and then that proved they were over-rated because they lost an OOC game.

So again, going into the playoffs Ohio St was in that exact same scenario.

I didn't say that, I said when they played good teams in the bowls they lost and showed they were over-ranked.

Who tOSU played was a big problem and almost cost them a shot. Yes they were in the same scenario yet did not get the SoS credit the SEC did when it turns out it was not so deserved.