Meyer is getting screwed

[Shanemansj13]

So the pictures aren’t evidence enough for you? It’s not about whether it happened. It’s about whether it was even addressed at all.

I dont believe anything McMurphy says or tweete. The guy has fabricated facts already. I am letting it play out, whatever the outcome is. If he gets fired over the media, so be it.

 

[Codaxx]

I dont believe anything McMurphy says or tweete. The guy has fabricated facts already. I am letting it play out, whatever the outcome is. If he gets fired over the media, so be it.

The only person that we know for a 100% certainty that has lied is Urban, because he admitted it. If he is fired it is because he embarrassed OSU and has opened them up to scrutiny

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

So the pictures aren’t evidence enough for you? It’s not about whether it happened. It’s about whether it was even addressed at all.

Aren’t the pics from 2009?

 

[romeo212000]

Aren’t the pics from 2009?

I’m honestly not sure but either way there’s egg on his face. Whether he knew about it and brought him with him from Florida or he knew about the 2015 incident and admittedly lied about it. It’s not about whether he had knowledge that an incident had occurred.

 

[socaljim242]

Ok a lot of the shit you are spewing had nothing to do with Meyer and Florduh has nothing to do with this. This specific incident he reported in 2009 and he also reported in 2015 (2015 is according to him, Zach and the AD). But Courtney keeps saying he did nothing to try to help her (shouldnt be his fault anyway since the Police didnt even charge Smith with anyting). YOU always report protocol to the AD, Zach was not charged with anything. Urban told Zach if we hear another peep out of this again you are fired, he did recently and he was fired. You are only hearing some of the story and passing judgment, we hsve seen in so many other cases that people do the same thing and are wrong. The media is a dangerous thing, they can literally put this story out the way they want to help their ratings/pull people in. Like Devil said let it all play out, bc you dont know everything.

Past history has a lot to do with this. Urban is well known to let things slide for the purpose of winning.
So this story becoming public knowledge was enough to get Smith fired but not the actual acts of beating his wife? LOL , yeah OK. Lots of men abuse their wives and get away with it. Heck OJ killed his and got away with it. This was after years of beating her.The fact that Urban still kept him employed shows what kind of a man he is. He might end up keeping his job because football is pretty important to you folks at Ohio State but it doesn't mean he's still not an enabler for keeping that POS on his staff when he knew what type of man he is.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I’m honestly not sure but either way there’s egg on his face. Whether he knew about it and brought him with him from Florida or he knew about the 2015 incident and admittedly lied about it. It’s not about whether he had knowledge that an incident had occurred.

I agree it’s a bad look no matter what.

I think it’s likely that there was at least one physical altercation between those two, but even with pics of bruises and a cut, it’s still not undeniable proof like the Mixon video is.

 

[socaljim242]

They say what they think will create the most controversy. And it is our job to tell them they are full of shit.



What did Urban Meyer know of Hernandez's history in Florida? He got in a bar fight. Is there anything else?



Cloud of abuse? WTF? There was one incident where she filed a complaint in florida but latter dropped it. Then nothing until she filed a complaint in Ohio in 2015. He was not arrested in either situation.



We don't know what Shelly Meyer was told. We do know the police didn't press charges. There was nothing to fire him for in 2015. But in 2018 he was arrested for breaking an order of protection.



He has a contract and you have to show cause. And believe it or not some people think you shouldn't fire people on rumors.



Not against the law coaches do it all the time.

All that bullshit you wrote. Did they fire the guy for what happened in 2015? Pretty sure they did. But they waited till 2018 till that reporter you bitch about found out they were hiding an abuser . So everything you wrote is pretty much homer BS.

 

[romeo212000]

I agree it’s a bad look no matter what.

I think it’s likely that there was at least one physical altercation between those two, but even with pics of bruises and a cut, it’s still not undeniable proof like the Mixon video is.

Again, Meyer already admitted to knowledge of an incident. The issue is whether it was even addressed.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Past history has a lot to do with this. Urban is well known to let things slide for the purpose of winning.
So this story becoming public knowledge was enough to get Smith fired but not the actual acts of beating his wife? LOL , yeah OK. Lots of men abuse their wives and get away with it. Heck OJ killed his and got away with it. This was after years of beating her.The fact that Urban still kept him employed shows what kind of a man he is. He might end up keeping his job because football is pretty important to you folks at Ohio State but it doesn't mean he's still not an enabler for keeping that POS on his staff when he knew what type of man he is.

I think keeping him around had more to do with his personal relationship with Smith’s family than it did winning. Not that that makes it any better.

I’d also like more details of the 2009 incident as well as an accounting of subsequent incidents before I decide that he harbored a wife beater.

No matter what, it’s not good, I’m just unclear on the severity.

 

[socaljim242]

Whether we like it or not the media is a factor. Especially when people are citing things such as texts supplied by McMurphy as tho they are fact. I just showed you how easy it is to change the context of dupe a text exchange to suit a purpose . I think it’s common sense McMurohy gets a bigger pay day with Meyers name attached.You’re citing the media yourself when in truth no one has anything of substance to report. Other than speculation. Until OSU’s investigation is complete. Or we hear more from an actual court.....Coring his past history is basically saying this is more personal opinion. Rather than the Smiths and what he actually knew. Basically playing jury before an investigation because of pre existing opinion . Which goes back to the witch hunt mentality we have with social media and the media in today’s era .....

Again. They fired the guy. Are you saying he didn't do anything? They fired him and they cite the 2015 incident. But its 2018 . Did they wait for court? Did they speculate? No they know what happened. Thats why they fired the guy.
Meyer flat out lied to three different sets of reporters saying he'd never heard of this . Then we find out about the 2009 incidents. Then everyone says all this crazy shit that this couple was doing. And Urban still had the guy on staff.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Again, Meyer already admitted to knowledge of an incident. The issue is whether it was even addressed.

Again, we don’t know the details of the incident. We do know the details of the Mixon incident because we saw it happen in the video.

From what I’ve read, seems like there were a lot of incidents between these two, but I don’t have details on any of them.

 

[socaljim242]

I think keeping him around had more to do with his personal relationship with Smith’s family than it did winning. Not that that makes it any better.

I’d also like more details of the 2009 incident as well as an accounting of subsequent incidents before I decide that he harbored a wife beater.

No matter what, it’s not good, I’m just unclear on the severity.

From what i hear the guy wasn't a good enough coach to cover this much for it was the relationship with his mentor and knowing this guy for so long. It's like having a crack head brother. You can try to help him out but you don't put him in position to fuck up your life. This was a ticking time bomb. I don't know what Urban was thinking keeping him on staff. With the prior stuff it was bound to come out.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Again. They fired the guy. Are you saying he didn't do anything? They fired him and they cite the 2015 incident. But its 2018 . Did they wait for court? Did they speculate? No they know what happened. Thats why they fired the guy.
Meyer flat out lied to three different sets of reporters saying he'd never heard of this . Then we find out about the 2009 incidents. Then everyone says all this crazy shit that this couple was doing. And Urban still had the guy on staff.

It’s my understanding that the 2015 incident involved Smith breaking a court order, not hitting his wife.

 

[romeo212000]

Again, we don’t know the details of the incident. We do know the details of the Mixon incident because we saw it happen in the video.

From what I’ve read, seems like there were a lot of incidents between these two, but I don’t have details on any of them.

I guess I’m not totally sure what you’re getting at. Do we know the exact details? No. Do we know that multiple violent incidents occurred? Yes. Do we know Meyer had knowledge of at least a couple of them? Yes. Did Meyer retain him? Yes. Was the incident legitimately addressed in any way? Details to come, but it doesn’t look good at the moment.

I’ll withhold judgement until the details come out, but I’m just saying it’s not looking good at the moment. If it turns out the way things are looking now, my original post still stands.

 

[socaljim242]

I dont believe anything McMurphy says or tweete. The guy has fabricated facts already. I am letting it play out, whatever the outcome is. If he gets fired over the media, so be it.

Its a fact urban lied about knowing . It's a fact they just fired Smith for the 2015 incident three years after. So for three years Urban knew his coach had done something worth getting fired over and he still kept him. That's OK with you? Those are facts.

 

[outofyourmind]

It's looking more and more like Urban Meyer screwed Urban Meyer.



Would that be a fair assessment??

 

[socaljim242]

It’s my understanding that the 2015 incident involved Smith breaking a court order, not hitting his wife.

Whats the court order for? If you know your assistant has a court order then you know theres something going on there. It's like saying oh I only got picked up for breaking probation b drinking a beer. But why are you on probation is the next logical question.

 

[socaljim242]

It's looking more and more like Urban Meyer screwed Urban Meyer.



Would that be a fair assessment??

Totally. He should have gotten rid of the guy in 2015 and none of this comes to light. Heck on media day he could have said yes Im aware of that and I addressed the issue to the proper people at the school and while he would have still gotten shit for keeping the guy it wouldn't have been this bad. The fact that he tried to deceive people and act like it's the first he'd heard of it and flat out lied is what got him in deeper shit. The moment you lie and people know the truth and that you're lying they are gonna dig more. That's why I don't get this whole "the media" excuse. He flat out lied and everyone knows he did. When you do that people are going to question everything you say or do.

 

[KingKoolKat75]

All that bullshit you wrote. Did they fire the guy for what happened in 2015? Pretty sure they did. But they waited till 2018 till that reporter you bitch about found out they were hiding an abuser . So everything you wrote is pretty much homer BS.

They fired him the day after he was arrested and months before the McMurphy's report and supposedly reported the incident to the police in 2015. You're reaching for something that isn't there....

 

[trojanfan12]

Its a fact urban lied about knowing . It's a fact they just fired Smith for the 2015 incident three years after. So for three years Urban knew his coach had done something worth getting fired over and he still kept him. That's OK with you? Those are facts.

Basically, it comes down to what a lot of these things seem to come down to...

What did he know and when did he know it?

If he knew about the 2015 incident in 2015 and didn't do anything about it until 2018 (which looks to be the case), then he has been covering it up for 3 years. If that's the case, he should be fired and if it turns out that administrators knew about it in 2015...they should be fired too.

However, if he didn't know about the 2015 incident until 2018 and fired Smith, then he handled it properly and should keep his job.