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tlance

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@TKOSpikes @TREFF

I agree you can't have 6 players on your bench. I would say that should always be true. After the draft, mid-week, always.

I just think forcing somebody to drop an injured player during bye week he'll is a choice that the owner should have some autonomy to make. We have to be able to assume people have the best intentions with their lineups. It is pretty obvious when someone is forced IMO a bad spot vs. being there's out of inactivity.

The former should be acceptable as long as the owner can prove they did everything they could to avoid it. The latter should be punishable by oblivion.
 

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Well a certain some one dropped a D picked up a player then played without a D and had all 6 on the bench on a bye
That for me is extreme
Tlance you are certainly right as well when you post the other side of the argument yet 6 on a bye is way to extreme certainly 1 of the 6 could have been dropped without long term impact

and that week he lost by 1.9 to our eventual number 1 seed who may have deserved to be 2

and if the person who did that chimes in and questions why I didn't use his name it is because most in the discussion already know who we are talking of and why risk the potential of what may be deemed slander any further for those who do not know
and finally it may yet prove not to be a glaring error when all is said and done if the majority determines it so
 

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Reading Smitty's post in the other thread.... I just disagree.

If Gronk was my TE, I would have absolutely added another TE for the first three weeks.

This league has five bench spots. As an owner, you must prepare and deal with that. That part is very strategic as well, just another notch on the MBBRL belt.

Keeping a 4th or 5th WR, or a handcuff on your roster does not make your team better.

I just don't get that type of thinking. There are too many players equal to each other any given week to be protecting the #44 WR at the back of your roster because you might use him in a good matchup in three weeks.
 

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Well a certain some one dropped a D picked up a player then played without a D and had all 6 on the bench on a bye
That for me is extreme
Tlance you are certainly right as well when you post the other side of the argument yet 6 on a bye is way to extreme certainly 1 of the 6 could have been dropped without long term impact

and that week he lost by 1.9 to our eventual number 1 seed who may have deserved to be 2

and if the person who did that chimes in and questions why I didn't use his name it is because most in the discussion already know who we are talking of and why risk the potential of what may be deemed slander any further for those who do not know
and finally it may yet prove not to be a glaring error when all is said and done if the majority determines it so

That example you speak of is one of the reasons I stopped doing recaps. I would have had to call it out, and it just wasn't worth the aggravation to me.
 

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Reading Smitty's post in the other thread.... I just disagree.

If Gronk was my TE, I would have absolutely added another TE for the first three weeks.

This league has five bench spots. As an owner, you must prepare and deal with that. That part is very strategic as well, just another notch on the MBBRL belt.

Keeping a 4th or 5th WR, or a handcuff on your roster does not make your team better.

I just don't get that type of thinking. There are too many players equal to each other any given week to be protecting the #44 WR at the back of your roster because you might use him in a good matchup in three weeks.
So true TKO I mentioned 6 bench in error as that week he indeed have 6 bench spots on a bye a no D in the starting line up
 

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Well a certain some one dropped a D picked up a player then played without a D and had all 6 on the bench on a bye
That for me is extreme
Tlance you are certainly right as well when you post the other side of the argument yet 6 on a bye is way to extreme certainly 1 of the 6 could have been dropped without long term impact

and that week he lost by 1.9 to our eventual number 1 seed who may have deserved to be 2

and if the person who did that chimes in and questions why I didn't use his name it is because most in the discussion already know who we are talking of and why risk the potential of what may be deemed slander any further for those who do not know
and finally it may yet prove not to be a glaring error when all is said and done if the majority determines it so

I agree Barilko. And 6 on the bench should be non-negotiable. Illegal lineups are not allowed.
 

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The 6 bench players is an easy fix with the league setting (make it max 5) just like not having a full line-up (set each starting position to 1). The ESPN system will MAKE you fix it before you can do anything. .... otherwise, illegal lineup and zero points.
 

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Reading Smitty's post in the other thread.... I just disagree.

If Gronk was my TE, I would have absolutely added another TE for the first three weeks.

This league has five bench spots. As an owner, you must prepare and deal with that. That part is very strategic as well, just another notch on the MBBRL belt.

Keeping a 4th or 5th WR, or a handcuff on your roster does not make your team better.

I just don't get that type of thinking. There are too many players equal to each other any given week to be protecting the #44 WR at the back of your roster because you might use him in a good matchup in three weeks.

Smitty's post was a good one. This is exactly why the issue needs to be hashed out.

I don't think rostering a handcuff in weeks 1-3 is a good reason to have an inactive player in the lineup. I also don't want to force somebody to drop an every week starter just because they are out 1 week.

Obviously SMitty was acting in the best interest of his team, so no harm no foul, but now that we are discussing this matter in detail those types of things should be avoided in the future.
 

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Gah. Working with the boss today ...can't sneak away for my 5 minute "breaks", I'll chime in a little later.
 

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Gah. Working with the boss today ...can't sneak away for my 5 minute "breaks", I'll chime in a little later.

I have the day off!

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This may or may not be the best place. But I feel like I need to at least represent myself. As I was not given the opportunity to do so the first time as @TREFF trashed my name in the A league thread. Feeling I didn't have the right to even know what was going on. @tlance let me know he was going to post my name in the rule and it's okay. I feel like others have skirted naming me but seem obvious who they are talking about when they post messages like @Barilko.

I could see the outrage if it was a rule but it was not. I could see if I was a owner who was fighting oblivion and did nothing and expected people to vote for me to stay. But my team was a championship contender. I feel like I did what I could to field the best roster I could that week against @HaroldSeattle. I cut my defense in a attempt to gain the most points possible by adding T Hill. I cut my TE backup to get Perkins so I could have a flex position that had some upside. I sent two offers to Micro in a attempt to make a trade so I could have a full roster. Picking up a better flex and opening up a spot to get a DEF. Which were declined with no response. It wasn't 3 people but it was a attempt. So you get to the point that you make a move that hurts your team that season for one week. It would have been pretty crazy to cut D Lewis with the way Bill Belichick is with RB's. In hindsight it took longer for him to cut into Blount's touches. But it did eventually happen. But Blount did enough to be playable in the end. But it was a question if I could even start him for the championship game. After Lewis had 18 rushing attempts in week 15.

These ideas in theory seem good. But why would someone make a trade that helps someone out in a tight spot? That's not the way things are done. They are going to try to stick it to you when you are in a tight spot. So are we going to end up with a MBBRL court. As people try to post screen shots of trade offers as a last resort to clear his name?



So it's still about you and not the league? Alright let's make it all about you. YOU did the deed, not me, not Bar, not anyone else YOU....YOU trashed your name, not me, not Bar, YOU....we simply discussed what to do about it. And are only discussing it now because it is an example of what we're trying to eliminate. Check the fricken mirror if your looking someone to get mad at
 

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So it's still about you and not the league? Alright let's make it all about you. YOU did the deed, not me, not Bar, not anyone else YOU....YOU trashed your name, not me, not Bar, YOU....we simply discussed what to do about it. And are only discussing it now because it is an example of what we're trying to eliminate. Check the fricken mirror if your looking someone to get mad at

This coming from the guy who quit MBBRL. Let me know when you find a mirror.
 

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It's real simple @TREFF. We have no respect for one another. What you pulled in my league is the same as you pulled the other day. The only difference is I put you down. You want to crucify me for a grey area so be it. But talking about mirrors with your actions as commish the last few days. I'm not playing that game. Make the rule, make a rule with my name on it. Put possibly quitting with my name attached. Put quitting B league write ups on me. Not like everyone doesn't see it and say it in private. I'm done arguing over this. I have said my piece showed my evidence. You can accept it or not.
 

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Excellent response, are you done now ? Can we focus on the wording of the rules and how to deal with this in future? Or are you going to keep fanning the flames?

There's no reason for you to be pissed at us for something you did. Because of the way the rules were written, no one is calling for your head, no one is trying to do anything to you, all we're trying to do is fix it so there isn't another situation in the future, and yes, discussing what you did, is part of that process. But that's all it is, so let it go.
 

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It's real simple @TREFF. We have no respect for one another. What you pulled in my league is the same as you pulled the other day. The only difference is I put you down. You want to crucify me for a grey area so be it. But talking about mirrors with your actions as commish the last few days. I'm not playing that game. Make the rule, make a rule with my name on it. Put possibly quitting with my name attached. Put quitting B league write ups on me. Not like everyone doesn't see it and say it in private. I'm done arguing over this. I have said my piece showed my evidence. You can accept it or not.
If I wanted you crucified, it would've been done a month ago...now are you done?
 

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I dunno guys. How many times do we have to say it? This whole thing is abut trying to fix the issues the we've got going on, not any one individual doing any one certain thing. Its about clarifying what is expected of all of us so this kind of crap doesn't continue to happen. We've gotta get past this butt-hurt crap. You all, well not all, but many of you, asked me to stay, I'm still here, nothing has been accomplished other than yet another bitchfest
 

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Make the rule, make a rule with my name on it.

Actually sir, Treff was not the one who suggested that. It was the person you recently thanked for being a 'stand-up guy'.

Just pointing that out. In your defense, there have been a lot of posts to wade through.
 
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