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[Barilko]

its funny... I don't like the decimal... Never understood why people swear by it... to say that there is not a big difference between 99 yards and a hundred yards is said by people that don't understand what they are arguing IMO...

Huh 1 yard maybe i dont understand

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Huh 1 yard maybe i dont understand

I should let Milk explain his thinking, but I'll give my take on his post. Failing by a yard to reach 100 yards could be like failing by a foot or less from crossing the goal line for a TD, if you fail you lose, even if it's oh so close.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

How does it weaken the value of a point? Decimal scoring more accurately reflects what a player has done.

The difference between 99 and 100 is a bad spot. The difference between 99 and 90 is significant and should be rewarded. There is no downside to decimal scoring.

Let me ask it this way... in the record books... if a baseball player has 3000 Hirs, compared to a player with 2999 hits... isn't there a big difference??? sports are all about the milestone numbers... there is a big difference between 100 yards and 99 yards... big difference between 400 Passing yards and 399 yards....

And the difference is that ONE player reached the milestone and the other didn't...

 

[Barilko]

Let me ask it this way... in the record books... if a baseball player has 3000 Hirs, compared to a player with 2999 hits... isn't there a big difference??? sports are all about the milestone numbers... there is a big difference between 100 yards and 99 yards... big difference between 400 Passing yards and 399 yards....

And the difference is that ONE player reached the milestone and the other didn't...

ya i kinda though you were leaning towards milestones

however its not milestones in the real world its 1 yard in fantasy football

and

its this quote that can be an issue

"is said by people that don't understand what they are arguing IMO..."

are you saying that all your fellow posters and MBBRL'ers do not understand

 

[MilkSpiller22]

ya i kinda though you were leaning towards milestones

however its not milestones in the real world its 1 yard in fantasy football

and

its this quote that can be an issue

"is said by people that don't understand what they are arguing IMO..."

are you saying that all your fellow posters and MBBRL'ers do not understand

not saying they don't know their stuff... not what i meant at all... what i meant was more that often there is a change that looks and sounds pretty, but people miss the purpose of the original rule...

this is how i feel about OBP over BA in baseball too...

you know me, i am all in for changes, but sometimes a change for change sake annoys me... and especially one that in my opinion hurts the integrity of the whole thing...

i think this does it, and OBP does it in baseball... even if it does it in such a minor way...

 

[SoShady]

Fine with decimal point scoring.

 

[leftypower]

Let me ask it this way... in the record books... if a baseball player has 3000 Hirs, compared to a player with 2999 hits... isn't there a big difference??? sports are all about the milestone numbers... there is a big difference between 100 yards and 99 yards... big difference between 400 Passing yards and 399 yards....
And the difference is that ONE player reached the milestone and the other didn't...

Not that it really matters since the vote is in, but that example would only matter if you were doing some type of hall of fame fantasy game - it has to do with a career - not an individual game.
Still not sure why you would be opposed to this - although in a purest world I suppose there is some logic. Speaking of which, did you not want to reward a point for first downs? In that case a 6-inch QB sneak could be a full point - to me that makes a lot less sense than a 0.1pt for a yd.

 

[leftypower]

I should let Milk explain his thinking, but I'll give my take on his post. Failing by a yard to reach 100 yards could be like failing by a foot or less from crossing the goal line for a TD, if you fail you lose, even if it's oh so close.

Yes, but 99yds is still 99yds - not 90.

 

[broncosmitty]

Let me ask it this way... in the record books... if a baseball player has 3000 Hirs, compared to a player with 2999 hits... isn't there a big difference??? sports are all about the milestone numbers... there is a big difference between 100 yards and 99 yards... big difference between 400 Passing yards and 399 yards....

And the difference is that ONE player reached the milestone and the other didn't...

Al Kaline is the best player without 400 homers.

He'd just be another guy with 400 if he had one more.

Milestones work both ways.

 

[Sam Sportboy]

Guess I could see the argument if the NFL rounded up or down with yardage..............but if a guy runs for 90 yards and another guy runs for 99, did they have the same game? The NFL counts every yard, why shouldn't we?

 

[TKOSpikes]

not saying they don't know their stuff... not what i meant at all... what i meant was more that often there is a change that looks and sounds pretty, but people miss the purpose of the original rule...

this is how i feel about OBP over BA in baseball too...

you know me, i am all in for changes, but sometimes a change for change sake annoys me... and especially one that in my opinion hurts the integrity of the whole thing...

i think this does it, and OBP does it in baseball... even if it does it in such a minor way...

Can't compare baseball and football.

As for the "milestone", that would only be relevant in bonus leagues, no?

Here's how I look at it... my two RB had 75 yards rushing each. That's 150 in my eyes, not 140. Pretty simple, imo.

 

[tlance]

not saying they don't know their stuff... not what i meant at all... what i meant was more that often there is a change that looks and sounds pretty, but people miss the purpose of the original rule...

this is how i feel about OBP over BA in baseball too...

you know me, i am all in for changes, but sometimes a change for change sake annoys me... and especially one that in my opinion hurts the integrity of the whole thing...

i think this does it, and OBP does it in baseball... even if it does it in such a minor way...

Sometimes I think you just want to take the less popular side of the argument just to have something to debate. Like Lefty inplied, some of your points seem to contradict each other. It's all good, we still love ya, but I have a hard time seeing your point here.

As for the original rule, I don't think it had anything to do with milestones. Before the Internet, people tabulated their scores manually and it was much easier to do with round numbers. Now that everything is digital, it is easy to do decimal scoring.

As for the milestone thing, if you want to reward that, create a bonus for going over 100 yards. Many leagues do that. I just can't see any case to be made for 80 yards being significantly more valuable than 79.

 

[leftypower]

Sometimes I think you just want to take the less popular side of the argument just to have something to debate. Like Lefty inplied, some of your points seem to contradict each other. It's all good, we still love ya, but I have a hard time seeing your point here.

As for the original rule, I don't think it had anything to do with milestones. Before the Internet, people tabulated their scores manually and it was much easier to do with round numbers. Now that everything is digital, it is easy to do decimal scoring.

As for the milestone thing, if you want to reward that, create a bonus for going over 100 yards. Many leagues do that. I just can't see any case to be made for 80 yards being significantly more valuable than 79.

Well said T.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Sometimes I think you just want to take the less popular side of the argument just to have something to debate. Like Lefty inplied, some of your points seem to contradict each other. It's all good, we still love ya, but I have a hard time seeing your point here.

As for the original rule, I don't think it had anything to do with milestones. Before the Internet, people tabulated their scores manually and it was much easier to do with round numbers. Now that everything is digital, it is easy to do decimal scoring.

As for the milestone thing, if you want to reward that, create a bonus for going over 100 yards. Many leagues do that. I just can't see any case to be made for 80 yards being significantly more valuable than 79.

Yes, that was the original intention... it was for ease.... But it really did help differentiate between those big stat games and its lesser...

Fantasy sports are all about statistics and numbers... The way i see it, if you have 49 cents, you don't have 50... if you have 99 cents you don't have a dollar... i like the differentiation of it...

Lefty brings up how i like the first downs... once you bring up a new stat that stat should always be used separately from all others... a play is either a first down or it is not a first down... it is that simple... doesn't matter if it was only inches to get that first down or if you had to get 20+ yards to get it... it is all the same...

Like in baseball how a inside the park HR is still equal to any HR...

You guys know i am into theoretical fantasy... i think it is fascinating to try to find the perfect setup and the perfect strategies...

All decimal points do for me is make me want to use bonuses... and i hate bonuses... But i really like differentiating between the 99 and 100 or whatever... there really is a difference between them...


Again, i understand this was voted in already, and so be it... it is such a trivial change that it won't affect much... I just don't like it... but won't stop me from enjoying this league, or anything.. really was debating in general...

 

[TKOSpikes]

TE="MilkSpiller22, post: 8473110, member: 4197"]Yes, that was the original intention... it was for ease.... But it really did help differentiate between those big stat games and its lesser...

Fantasy sports are all about statistics and numbers... The way i see it, if you have 49 cents, you don't have 50... if you have 99 cents you don't have a dollar... i like the differentiation of it...

Lefty brings up how i like the first downs... once you bring up a new stat that stat should always be used separately from all others... a play is either a first down or it is not a first down... it is that simple... doesn't matter if it was only inches to get that first down or if you had to get 20+ yards to get it... it is all the same...

Like in baseball how a inside the park HR is still equal to any HR...

You guys know i am into theoretical fantasy... i think it is fascinating to try to find the perfect setup and the perfect strategies...

All decimal points do for me is make me want to use bonuses... and i hate bonuses... But i really like differentiating between the 99 and 100 or whatever... there really is a difference between them...


Again, i understand this was voted in already, and so be it... it is such a trivial change that it won't affect much... I just don't like it... but won't stop me from enjoying this league, or anything.. really was debating in general...[/QUOTE]


Actually, we eliminated pennies up here. So if something is 99 cents, it is a dollar.
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[Sam Sportboy]

Yes, that was the original intention... it was for ease.... But it really did help differentiate between those big stat games and its lesser...

Fantasy sports are all about statistics and numbers... The way i see it, if you have 49 cents, you don't have 50... if you have 99 cents you don't have a dollar... i like the differentiation of it

Nope, you don't have a dollar, you have 99/100 of a dollar, not 90/100...............and I crunched some numbers in the league where we changed last year and there were a few games that actually were changed, and one that would have been a tie.

 

[Barilko]

TE="MilkSpiller22, post: 8473110, member: 4197"]Yes, that was the original intention... it was for ease.... But it really did help differentiate between those big stat games and its lesser...

Fantasy sports are all about statistics and numbers... The way i see it, if you have 49 cents, you don't have 50... if you have 99 cents you don't have a dollar... i like the differentiation of it...

Lefty brings up how i like the first downs... once you bring up a new stat that stat should always be used separately from all others... a play is either a first down or it is not a first down... it is that simple... doesn't matter if it was only inches to get that first down or if you had to get 20+ yards to get it... it is all the same...

Like in baseball how a inside the park HR is still equal to any HR...

You guys know i am into theoretical fantasy... i think it is fascinating to try to find the perfect setup and the perfect strategies...

All decimal points do for me is make me want to use bonuses... and i hate bonuses... But i really like differentiating between the 99 and 100 or whatever... there really is a difference between them...


Again, i understand this was voted in already, and so be it... it is such a trivial change that it won't affect much... I just don't like it... but won't stop me from enjoying this league, or anything.. really was debating in general...

Actually, we eliminated pennies up here. So if something is 99 cents, it is a dollar.
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yamon

 

[leftypower]

Yes, that was the original intention... it was for ease.... But it really did help differentiate between those big stat games and its lesser...

Fantasy sports are all about statistics and numbers... The way i see it, if you have 49 cents, you don't have 50... if you have 99 cents you don't have a dollar... i like the differentiation of it...

Lefty brings up how i like the first downs... once you bring up a new stat that stat should always be used separately from all others... a play is either a first down or it is not a first down... it is that simple... doesn't matter if it was only inches to get that first down or if you had to get 20+ yards to get it... it is all the same...

Like in baseball how a inside the park HR is still equal to any HR...

You guys know i am into theoretical fantasy... i think it is fascinating to try to find the perfect setup and the perfect strategies...

All decimal points do for me is make me want to use bonuses... and i hate bonuses... But i really like differentiating between the 99 and 100 or whatever... there really is a difference between them...


Again, i understand this was voted in already, and so be it... it is such a trivial change that it won't affect much... I just don't like it... but won't stop me from enjoying this league, or anything.. really was debating in general...

Not to get into a great debate with you on this, I understand what you are saying - BUT. 49 cents in not 40 cents it is 49 cents. Try giving a merchant $1.40 cents for your $1.49 bill, or $1.90 for a $1.99 bill, or better yet $140 for a $149 bill - doesn't work.
As for the first down thing - well, you potentially 'add' reward to a guy for gaining less yardage than the the one who ran for the first 9 to get them there. In baseball terms, a guy hits a 3 run homer in the 9th to tie the score. In the 10th a team-mate hit a solo shot to win the game. Which is worth more? If not for the 3-run homer in the 9th there would not have been a tenth inning.
As for differentiating between 100 and 99 - there still is a difference, 1 yard = 0.1 pts.

Interesting discussion, but I think I'm over it now. .....

 

[leftypower]

Actually, we eliminated pennies up here. So if something is 99 cents, it is a dollar.
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yamon[/QUOTE]

What about 96-98 cents ??

 

[TKOSpikes]

yamon

What about 96-98 cents ??[/QUOTE]

Round up/down to a nickel