Mariners trade deadline thread 2023

[ulmax]

The best
trade.i have thought of prob..
Mariners..
Garcia...2b..

Nationals.
Ford..1b.dh..
Kuhn..RHp..
Marlowe...cf .left .

This takes care.of .some of the nationals needs..
If they got..c j cron..

 

[wazzu31]

A. Yes and no to me. Not all top prospects are created equal. So if it is a lesser top prospect than yes, but if it is the elite top prospect I would say no. Not for a 3 month rental. I wouldn't do Miller or Woo unless an extension came with it.

B. I would pass. One injury and that would cripple a cheap ass team like Seattle for three years. I guess I look at it this way, he plays on a team similar to Mariners but has one of top players in baseball with him and still has not made any impact on the playoffs in 6 years. Baseball, as we know with Cano, is not a one man show. Or even a two man show with him at two positions. $50? Sure. $100M? Pass.

My rebuttals would just be,

The future is irrelevant. IMO there isn’t a single prospect I wouldn’t do a one for one. Obviously the caveat is you have to be a team that can contend for a World Series. One thing I will also say just about the city of Seattle in general is no athlete wants to ever come here, but once they are here they love it. Do you think Castillo would’ve signed that deal as a free agent?

The 2nd is actually why I liked it. An injury, decline in production or anything doesn’t really matter since it’s only a 3 year commitment.

Just thought it’d be a fun convo cause those were two questions that I hadn’t thought of cause we as fans always talk about “selling the farm” not just 1 prospect.

 

[ulmax]

I have to think..that mariners need Garcia..
And will find a way to get him..
He fits so well..
Donavon.is really expensive .
But Gorman..could be the mariners guy..
Cuz ya don't go to St Louis for nothing.

 

[ulmax]

So.
Mariners..
Gorman..49.4..3b/2b.
Oniel..5.3...of

54.70
Cardinals..
Brash...29.6
Gabe.Gonzales.19.4
hancock..5
Sweet..0.07

54.70
Most likely..cardinals.deal.brash..
For more starting pitching.

 

[ulmax]

That is how to get what you want at the deadline..
bull pen guys...for the cardinals .
it would work..

 

[seahawksfan234]

Honestly I don’t care about production. They need a leader type dude in the clubhouse and especially cause the dude loves Seattle and gets how the fans want to win. Not saying at all saying sign him and make him the everyday DH but it would a token symbol to the fans and honestly just like how Beltre was amazing for Felix, maybe Nelson could be good for Julio.

Valid point worth considering.

I could be completely misremembering this but I'm pretty sure when Mike Sweeney was here he had a really big impact on the clubhouse.

 

[seahawksfan234]

If this team even looked like a stretch to reach the WS I'd be good with them making an aggressive trade and moving minor league talent to do so.

They aren't.

If they can find someone to throw cash at and make minor trades for please do so.

They can't fix what's wrong with this team and the organization with trade deadline moves. They have to decide to get aggressive in the off season and make sure they get off to a fast start and solid first half before those epic trades to fill in that one spot they might be short make sense.

Until then this team will always be same as it ever was....

I keep going back and forth on this.

Right now the Mariners have one of the best pitching staffs in baseball. Just ran the numbers and if you exclude the starts by Chris Flexen and Marco Gonzales, Mariners starters have an ERA of 3.32. That's pretty damn good and it would be a shame to waste that. The lineup is just too damn inconsistent. I was actually shocked to see that as of this posting, the Mariners have the 16th most runs scored in baseball. I was expecting that to be in the mid 20s.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Top 50 Deadline Trade Candidates: Early July Edition

With the calendar flipping to July, trade season has officially arrived. We've already seen a couple early deals. The Angels …

www.mlbtraderumors.com

Doesn't look like there's much hitting available. Here are the hitters listed in this article to spare you from going through the entire thing:

2. Jeimer Candelario, 3B, Nationals
10. Tommy Pham, LF, Mets
11. Cody Bellinger, CF/1B, Cubs
14. Mark Canha, LF/1B, Mets
21. Paul DeJong, SS, Cardinals
22. Justin Turner, 3B, Red Sox
25. Adam Duvall, CF, Red Sox
26. C.J. Cron, 1B, Rockies
35. Tyler O'Neill, LF, Cardinals
36. Joey Bart, C, Giants
37. Bobby Dalbec, 3B Red Sox
38. Jo Adell, LF, Angels
39. Josh Rojas, 3B D-Backs
40. Nick Senzel, 3B/CF, Reds
46. Carlos Santana, 1B, Pirates
47. Yan Gomes, C, Cubs
48. Teoscar Hernandez, RF, Mariners
49. Lane Thomas, RF, Nationals

Not exactly like there is a Juan Soto on the market this year.

 

[ulmax]

Gorman .23.years old..Garcia..23.years.old.
For control..it works..

1.crawford..ss..L/L
2.julio..
3.garcia..2b..L/L
4france...1b..
5.hernandez....rf.
6 kelenic.....L F..L/L.
7raliegh..catch..
8.gorman..3b.L/L.
9 Oniel....LF .DH...

Bench..
Diaz...catch ..
Moore..
Cabarello.
C. J. Cron...L/L..

Just to do all the trades..Rockies is not likely
But ya never know..Murphy is a free agent.
After the season..
Garcia .and.gorman..fit..long term..

 

[ulmax]

Yeah..I just .
Cj cron..
O niel..
But..Gorman we know .can be had..

Garcia..is a bit..diff.
But ok.

For deaz..catcher..consider..locked on.rockies podcast..gives info..
You tube.....like colby

 

[ulmax]

In this scenario..Suarez goes to Washington in an over pay..and mariners

Get Snell..and gurriel.jr.in off-season..
However unlikly..Ford and Murphy.
Work for the mariners..anyway .so it's all good..

 

[ulmax]

Cuz like..westburg..3b..is hard to get..
That is why..Gorman..

 

[NWinAZ]

My rebuttals would just be,

The future is irrelevant. IMO there isn’t a single prospect I wouldn’t do a one for one. Obviously the caveat is you have to be a team that can contend for a World Series. One thing I will also say just about the city of Seattle in general is no athlete wants to ever come here, but once they are here they love it. Do you think Castillo would’ve signed that deal as a free agent?

The 2nd is actually why I liked it. An injury, decline in production or anything doesn’t really matter since it’s only a 3 year commitment.

Just thought it’d be a fun convo cause those were two questions that I hadn’t thought of cause we as fans always talk about “selling the farm” not just 1 prospect.

I just wouldn't trade our top prospect for a 3 month rental. Any 3 month rental.

 

[NWinAZ]

Let the rumors fly...so more

 

[wazzu31]

I just wouldn't trade our top prospect for a 3 month rental. Any 3 month rental.

Then we disagree. If they had a Julio in their system then maybe but they don’t have one IMO. But our main disagreement IMO is that I feel the Mariners have a million times better chance of him signing in the off-season if they traded for him.

 

[wazzu31]

Let the rumors fly...so more

What do you think of a M’s-Cards trade. Was listening to some prospect podcast the other day and 1 of the guys was saying the Mariners and Orioles match up great for trades. He said the Cards need pitching and the M’s need hitting but the hitters that the Cards have to give up don’t matchup with the Mariners needs. But he also either way with Jerry’s philosophy neither are good fits for a mid season trade more of offseason deals.

 

[NWinAZ]

What do you think of a M’s-Cards trade. Was listening to some prospect podcast the other day and 1 of the guys was saying the Mariners and Orioles match up great for trades. He said the Cards need pitching and the M’s need hitting but the hitters that the Cards have to give up don’t matchup with the Mariners needs. But he also either way with Jerry’s philosophy neither are good fits for a mid season trade more of offseason deals.

I read the Orioles thing as well. But what legit bat would they give up while in a playoff race? That never made sense to me. I could see them giving up prospects, but is that what we want back? I want proven MLB hitters if we are giving up MLB pitching. If it is Hancock, then maybe so.

As far as the Cards go, I could see Hancock for one of their MLB bats that have minimal experience or O'Neill I guess. I heard Goldschmidt rumored a mont back but he has only one year left and is 35 I believe. I always try to think of teams with good prospects and how those prospects do after they leave that team. Sometimes it is just the organization that makes them what they are and when they leave not so much. Wong is one I think of when I think Cards. I don't know to be honest probably because I don't want to give up pitching for bats the you can just sign bats...hypothetically.

Then we disagree. If they had a Julio in their system then maybe but they don’t have one IMO. But our main disagreement IMO is that I feel the Mariners have a million times better chance of him signing in the off-season if they traded for him.

No Julio's, but other that make us a winner and not a lot of them. Even a lesser top prospect is hard to replace, so not my thing unless we are the division leaders and ready to win it all.

As far as having a better chance to re-sign him if he was traded for, I am not big on that. Look at Teoscar. He isn't exactly wanting to stay and Ohtani is going to talk to the team he wants to be with regardless and I just don't know if that is Seattle. If he says it is and is willing to sign a deal now, then heck ya.

 

[NWinAZ]

Any White Sox who could fit the Seattle Mariners?​

Morosi ;
Another team that appears likely to sell at the trade deadline is the Chicago White Sox, who are 16 games under .500 and have the third-worst record in the American League.

The White Sox are most likely to sell on the pitching side of things, with Lance Lynn and Lucas Giolito appearing destined for other clubs. But are there any hitters they could move who the Mariners may be interested in?

“There is, and he’s having a really down year and you’d have to really sort of bet on the bounce back a little bit, but Tim Anderson,” Morosi said.

 

[NWinAZ]

What do you think of a M’s-Cards trade. Was listening to some prospect podcast the other day and 1 of the guys was saying the Mariners and Orioles match up great for trades. He said the Cards need pitching and the M’s need hitting but the hitters that the Cards have to give up don’t matchup with the Mariners needs. But he also either way with Jerry’s philosophy neither are good fits for a mid season trade more of offseason deals.

Morosi-

That perks up the ears of everybody and says OK, they’re ready to sell,” Morosi said of the Cardinals. “They’ve got some young, controllable bats. I think the ones, if I was a Seattle fan, that I’d watch most carefully are Nolan Gorman and Brendan Donovan. And then see OK, would you give up Bryce Miller for one of them? Would you give up Bryan Woo for one of them?”

 

[wazzu31]

I read the Orioles thing as well. But what legit bat would they give up while in a playoff race? That never made sense to me. I could see them giving up prospects, but is that what we want back? I want proven MLB hitters if we are giving up MLB pitching. If it is Hancock, then maybe so.

As far as the Cards go, I could see Hancock for one of their MLB bats that have minimal experience or O'Neill I guess. I heard Goldschmidt rumored a mont back but he has only one year left and is 35 I believe. I always try to think of teams with good prospects and how those prospects do after they leave that team. Sometimes it is just the organization that makes them what they are and when they leave not so much. Wong is one I think of when I think Cards. I don't know to be honest probably because I don't want to give up pitching for bats the you can just sign bats...hypothetically.



No Julio's, but other that make us a winner and not a lot of them. Even a lesser top prospect is hard to replace, so not my thing unless we are the division leaders and ready to win it all.

As far as having a better chance to re-sign him if he was traded for, I am not big on that. Look at Teoscar. He isn't exactly wanting to stay and Ohtani is going to talk to the team he wants to be with regardless and I just don't know if that is Seattle. If he says it is and is willing to sign a deal now, then heck ya.

I don’t pay attention to the Cardinals at all so was just curious. Yeah the dude said the Orioles deal would be an off-season move. Cause it seems like Woo would be the guy most likely dealt but who is going to take either him or Hancock when neither is going to be able to pitch for a playoff run.

I don’t necessarily disagree with replacing prospects. But going into the draft I said there is no way they could trade Ford and Young, but IMO both now would be. I guess we just see it different. I think it was perfect with Teoscar cause I think he would’ve been a dude they would’ve looked at and they now see he isn’t a $25 million dollar a year guy.