Mariners trade deadline thread 2023

[NWinAZ]

Woo would be the guy most likely dealt but who is going to take either him or Hancock when neither is going to be able to pitch for a playoff run.

Good point.

I don’t necessarily disagree with replacing prospects. But going into the draft I said there is no way they could trade Ford and Young, but IMO both now would be. I guess we just see it different. I think it was perfect with Teoscar cause I think he would’ve been a dude they would’ve looked at and they now see he isn’t a $25 million dollar a year guy.

Trading Ford or Young would be foolish IMO but sounds like something Dipoto would do. Keep the prospects that look legit.

Teoscar became a one year rental, unless dealt this month then a 4 month rental, but it didn't cost them their top prospect so not as big of a deal. I just read on Ohtani that they are talking Kirby or Gilbert. Heck no. We aren't the Braves. We don't pump these guys out by the dozen. It would be an easy no from me on that cost. We will see in the next 3 weeks I guess.

 

[wazzu31]

Good point.


Trading Ford or Young would be foolish IMO but sounds like something Dipoto would do. Keep the prospects that look legit.

Teoscar became a one year rental, unless dealt this month then a 4 month rental, but it didn't cost them their top prospect so not as big of a deal. I just read on Ohtani that they are talking Kirby or Gilbert. Heck no. We aren't the Braves. We don't pump these guys out by the dozen. It would be an easy no from me on that cost. We will see in the next 3 weeks I guess.

I’m not saying trade either one of them, but with this trade they definitely went with the (it seems to me) that Ford and Young now are available in a deal.

No way would I want them to trade a part of the core for it. I’m not even advocating for them to trade for Ohtani. If the M’s were 5 games ahead in the west and nearly a lock for the playoff then I’d entertain trading a boat load of prospects but not now. When I was saying trying to get Ohtani it was going with the hypothetical of the Angels choosing one prospect and swap them.

 

[cezero]

I don't want JerryLander trading anything. All they will do is make things worse in both the short and long term.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Morosi-

That perks up the ears of everybody and says OK, they’re ready to sell,” Morosi said of the Cardinals. “They’ve got some young, controllable bats. I think the ones, if I was a Seattle fan, that I’d watch most carefully are Nolan Gorman and Brendan Donovan. And then see OK, would you give up Bryce Miller for one of them? Would you give up Bryan Woo for one of them?”

Nolan Gorman, probably not. Brendan Donovan for Bryce Miller or Bryan Woo, maybe, but I feel like Donovan would require someone more established like Gilbert. Apparently the Cardinals are interested in Logan Gilbert. Woo and Miller have both pitched well, so if the Mariners moved on from Gilbert they'd have to be betting that either of those guys are as good or better than Gilbert.

Honestly I now have this paranoia that any hitter the Mariners trade for will have a massive regression here.

 

[NWinAZ]

Nolan Gorman, probably not. Brendan Donovan for Bryce Miller or Bryan Woo, maybe, but I feel like Donovan would require someone more established like Gilbert. Apparently the Cardinals are interested in Logan Gilbert. Woo and Miller have both pitched well, so if the Mariners moved on from Gilbert they'd have to be betting that either of those guys are as good or better than Gilbert.

Honestly I now have this paranoia that any hitter the Mariners trade for will have a massive regression here.

That is why I don't want to waste our talent on it. If we sign one and it doesn't work, I can live with. But giving up a stud for one only to be disappointed. No way.

 

[NWinAZ]

 

[NWinAZ]

A weird story (its the Mets so no surprise there) but the interesting part is McNeil might be available. He fits the Mariners needs perfectly.

Situation involving Mets' Francisco Lindor, Jeff McNeil remains curiously unresolved

New York Mets star shortstop Francisco Lindor confirmed he still owes teammate Jeff McNeil a car stemming from a promise made last year.

www.yardbarker.com

 

[NWinAZ]

Let's try something different. Let us trade for guys slumping and maybe coming here will reverse that unlike our normal plan destroying hitters by bringing them here.

 

[seahawksfan234]

That is why I don't want to waste our talent on it. If we sign one and it doesn't work, I can live with. But giving up a stud for one only to be disappointed. No way.

Exactly. That's why watching this team is so frustrating. Imagine if we had signed Cody Bellinger. 1 year $17.5m.

 

[NWinAZ]

Exactly. That's why watching this team is so frustrating. Imagine if we had signed Cody Bellinger. 1 year $17.5m.

I was thinking the exact same thing earlier today.

 

[NWinAZ]

Here is why I hate deadlines deals unless we are selling guys on expiring contracts. Trading to me is the lowest form of building a winner. I think we all can agree that Castillo might be the best player we have traded for in some time. It was costly though. My argument is this, we could have had a Castillo with no loss of prospects. How? Just sign a guy.

Gausman Vs Castillo 2022 thru today



We targeted Gausman but lost out. Maybe a few more million gets him and Ray then we had no need for Castillo making our prospects still our prospects. To develop or to later trade. I like trading for filler and signings for improving. Oh well, we wouldn't know what to do with success anyways.

 

[NWinAZ]

 

[NWinAZ]

 

[seattlefan75]

Well I am a stay and hold kind of guy the only 2 biggest needs I think is figuring out what to do at 2nd base and probably DH unless we still feel ok with Mike Ford. For a Journeyman he has held his own in the small sample size he showed. I am not the biggest fan of housing these out of high school prospects that we won't see until 2026-27. I am also not a fan of signing and trading for big time free agents that don't pan out like whats going on with the Padres and Mets. The only big named free agent Jerry signed to a large deal was Robbie Ray and look where he is right now. Now we are paying 20+ mill a year all the way until 2026

 

[NWinAZ]

Seattle Mariners Trade Deadline: Who could be dealt if M's sell?

The Seattle Mariners could go either way at the Aug. 1 trade deadline. Brandon Gustafson details who could be trade chips if they sell.

sports.mynorthwest.com

 

[NWinAZ]

My go for it deal for this year and next. Sign a top SP in the offseason to replace Gilbert.

 

[NWinAZ]

From ESPN:

Seattle Mariners​

Proposed deal: SS Cole Young, CF Jonatan Clase, RHP Emerson Hancock, RHP Darren Bowen

I focused on trying to offer the single best prospect, because the quality depth that I'm dealing with here isn't enough to just pick a couple players from the options at each prospect tier. It's up for debate whether Young (or Harry Ford if you prefer) would be the best single prospect on the table, but that would at least be a discussion, with all of the players in that discussion ranking in the 26-50 tier of a top 100 list. Clase is an 80-grade runner with big tools and a big arrow up this season (now at Double-A), while Hancock is a former top-10 overall pick who is turning the corner (in Double-A) to becoming a rotation player as soon as 2024.

You get two obvious big leaguers and one intriguing lottery ticket, and none are more than two years away. Other than the already-good-in-the-big-leagues Bryan Woo, these are the best prospects I can offer who are close to the majors. Oh, and I'll throw in the biggest arrow-up pitcher in the system this year in Bowen, who has two plus pitches and starter traits, but he's a late-bloomer with limited pro innings. -- McDaniel

GM Jeff says ... This is a good offer, but if I'm the Angels -- er, I am the Angels -- I want a sure-thing leading man, and that doesn't exist here. Seriously, you have a big league rotation full of productive starters, and you're not going to even offer me one? Start with Logan Gilbert or George Kirby and you leap to the top of the list. Woo is plenty intriguing, too.

As for the names included: Young can really, really hit, Clase's power-speed combo belies his short stature and Hancock and Bowen are both tooled-up arms. The problem with any Mariners offer, of course, is that they're just not good enough this season to warrant selling the farm. So this trade would essentially be: a bunch of very promising players for the right to put the hard sell on Ohtani over a two-month period. And as ridiculous as this sounds, it's the sort of gamble the Mariners might consider worth taking -- and they wouldn't be wrong. The "Come to Seattle" chants at the All-Star Game said everything the Mariners need to know. If there is anybody in baseball worth getting stupid over, it's Shohei Ohtani.

 

[wazzu31]

Nolan Gorman, probably not. Brendan Donovan for Bryce Miller or Bryan Woo, maybe, but I feel like Donovan would require someone more established like Gilbert. Apparently the Cardinals are interested in Logan Gilbert. Woo and Miller have both pitched well, so if the Mariners moved on from Gilbert they'd have to be betting that either of those guys are as good or better than Gilbert.

Honestly I now have this paranoia that any hitter the Mariners trade for will have a massive regression here.

I think the Cards can pound sand if they want Gilbert or Miller for what they are “offering”. IMO even Arenado isn’t worth Gilbert at this point. Though to be pessimistic, pretty soon the FO is going to have to choose between Gilbert and Kirby cause once they both hit arbitration they aren’t going to be able to keep both of them and Castillo if they ever want to get a really good offense. Which is why the last three offseasons have been so frustrating with all of these guy being so cheap.

 

[NWinAZ]

 

[seahawksfan234]

I think the Cards can pound sand if they want Gilbert or Miller for what they are “offering”. IMO even Arenado isn’t worth Gilbert at this point. Though to be pessimistic, pretty soon the FO is going to have to choose between Gilbert and Kirby cause once they both hit arbitration they aren’t going to be able to keep both of them and Castillo if they ever want to get a really good offense. Which is why the last three offseasons have been so frustrating with all of these guy being so cheap.

Sadly, you hit the nail on the head on this one.