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[Ricky Roma]

That all depends. Going to miss Garcon and Jackson. However - it may not be that bad if Doctson can stay healthy. They just picked up Pryor & very possibly could also add WR help in the draft. Add that to Crowder and the TEs & Cousins very possibly may have more help than you believe. I also don't buy into the other players not wanting to contribute. You have some players w/ a lot to prove, some working towards future contracts and guys like Reid who are going to give it their all regardless.

Yeah I just saw the Pryor pickup, which could be solid. I actually wanted SF to get him, but I'm also leary of one-year guys....so lets see him do it again. I do disagree however in regards to players going all in around Cousins. The QB is the defacto leader, and players around him gravitate to that leadership. Knowing your leader doesn't want to be there can be problematic, no matter how good a face they put on, and certainly depending on the player.

 

[Krusheasy]

Solid QB in the passing era...I think if he were truly considered a top shelf franchise QB...this thread wouldn't exist because WAS would've already inked him long term...the fact that they franchised him again is the proof in the pudding...they're not convinced.

agree ... they tagged him last year because they wanted him to sign a low ball offer

He would have signed last year to a long term deal had they offered him a respectable 20m per.

Now Cousins is refusing to a reasonable long term deal because he probably wants to go to San Fran with Kyle.

But, they tagged him ... and have the option of the trade if Kyle wants to make a realistic offer for a franchise QB.

If not we can keep trying to throw a reasonable (25mper) amount of money at him

And still have the option to tag him again next year for 28m.

And at any time he does not perform to the level he has in the past two seasons his value around the league will drop & he would only be hurting himself.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

If not we can keep trying to throw a reasonable (25mper) amount of money at him

A year ago, the Skins wouldn't offer the guy 20M/year, but a season later, you think the same team will pay 25M/year? I'm not sure Snyder's ego can take that.

And still have the option to tag him again next year for 28m.

That's the transition tag amount. 28M. The Niners, or any other team wanting the guy, will try to fashion a contract offer that the Skins can't/won't match.

And at any time he does not perform to the level he has in the past two seasons his value around the league will drop & he would only be hurting himself.

I don't see that as being realistic. Even if he has a down year this season, it can be blamed on losing his OC and both of his top 2 WRs. Whatever Kyle and the Niners would've paid him this offseason, I think they'll pay the same next year regardless of what kind of year he has.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Yeah I just saw the Pryor pickup, which could be solid. I actually wanted SF to get him, but I'm also leary of one-year guys....so lets see him do it again. I do disagree however in regards to players going all in around Cousins. The QB is the defacto leader, and players around him gravitate to that leadership. Knowing your leader doesn't want to be there can be problematic, no matter how good a face they put on, and certainly depending on the player.

I can perhaps understand to a degree. However - remember that quite a few of these guys will basically be auditioning for the future (whether it is w/ the Redskins or someone else). Cousins himself needs to play well to guarantee a big time LTD regardless of his future team. Pryor has to prove himself since he is on a 1 yr deal. Crowder & Doctson are both on their rookie deals & need to prove themselves. Both Reid & Davis are the type of players who are going to play at a high level regardless (sometimes too high of a level for Reid).

I see no problems with these guys performing as well as they can next season but who knows.

 

[Krusheasy]

you think the same team will pay 25M/year?

yes ... apart of the issue last year was paying 20m for two WR whom we have taken off our books this offseason

Whatever Kyle and the Niners would've paid him this offseason, I think they'll pay the same next year regardless of what kind of year he has.

another thing to keep in mind is Snyder ego would not allow him to give Cousins to Kyle without a fight

 

[Ricky Roma]

Cousins himself needs to play well to guarantee a big time LTD regardless of his future team.

If he does put up his par again, it will be three years in a row....and I think I'm more inclined he'll get another tag next year. I don't know all the inner workings within the Redskin franchise but this is coming off somewhat personal from Dan Snyder's POV.

As for the rest, I guess we'll see. I'm not completely opposed to Cuz joining SF, but I'm in the camp that says his talent around him makes him the player that he is rather that he himself makes the talent around him.

 

[Battlelyon]

Rumor is Snyder will do everything in his power not to let Cousins go to San Fran.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

The Redskins will trade Cousins to San Fran and then re-sign RG Knee and draft Mike Williams out of nowhere (because they lost Garcon/Jackson) and then proceed to go 2-14.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

If he does put up his par again, it will be three years in a row....and I think I'm more inclined he'll get another tag next year. I don't know all the inner workings within the Redskin franchise but this is coming off somewhat personal from Dan Snyder's POV.

As for the rest, I guess we'll see. I'm not completely opposed to Cuz joining SF, but I'm in the camp that says his talent around him makes him the player that he is rather that he himself makes the talent around him.

That would not surprise me & would just be another example of the overall stupidity at Redskins Park. If Cousins is tagged again next year it would be almost $80M that would have been guaranteed with the likelihood that he would be gone after that. They could have just have easily worked out a much better deal by just extending him (even now). However - Danny's ego as usual gets in the way.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

That would not surprise me & would just be another example of the overall stupidity at Redskins Park. If Cousins is tagged again next year it would be almost $80M that would have been guaranteed with the likelihood that he would be gone after that. They could have just have easily worked out a much better deal by just extending him (even now). However - Danny's ego as usual gets in the way.

Think everyone is over reacting here. Sure the Redskin could of signed Cousins last year to a long term contract, in hindsight that would of been the smart thing to do. However it's pretty understandable why they didn't, small sample size of performance, not a athletic stud, not a great arm, etc etc. This could still work out just fine. With McCoughan gone, things can now calm down. The system that the Redskins have play a big part in Cousin "success " and Cousin is a good fit for the system, so it's in both parties interest to patch things up. Going take some work, but signing Pryor is a great first step.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

No - I think it is proof that Snyder and Allen are egomaniacs and complete pricks. Again - this is the NFL & these contract #s change constantly. Your salary ranking is not supposed to be on par with how well you rank as a QB overall & it not supposed to indicate that you are elite. It is more a factor of timing and supply & demand. What appear to be huge numbers now will likely not even be in the top 10 of QB contracts several years from now. Just the way it is in today's NFL.

Remember these are the same geniuses who supposedly turned down a relatively cheap multiyear contract for Cousins last offseason. The now ex-GM was in agreement on this one but the little dictator and his lackey stood their ground & as a result are paying almost as much in two years just to tag Cousins - brilliant.

Very true and I agree 100% with that in bold. The cap hit is the same as an elite player, but it adversely effects the 53 more than it does with you have that legit elite QB. Teams that pay good QBs (Luck, Flacco, Cam) elite money because that's the market must draft extremely well or it's tough to sustain success.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

agree ... they tagged him last year because they wanted him to sign a low ball offer

He would have signed last year to a long term deal had they offered him a respectable 20m per.

Now Cousins is refusing to a reasonable long term deal because he probably wants to go to San Fran with Kyle.

But, they tagged him ... and have the option of the trade if Kyle wants to make a realistic offer for a franchise QB.

If not we can keep trying to throw a reasonable (25mper) amount of money at him

And still have the option to tag him again next year for 28m.

And at any time he does not perform to the level he has in the past two seasons his value around the league will drop & he would only be hurting himself.

In no way am I comparing him to Brock Osweiler, but as you've pointed out, he's also taking a risk...one so so season will cost Cousins a ton.

 

[Stomp]

Damn if the Mayock rumors are true thats bad news for the NFL network draft broadcast he is the best draft analyst in the business he'll be a big loss.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

A year ago, the Skins wouldn't offer the guy 20M/year, but a season later, you think the same team will pay 25M/year? I'm not sure Snyder's ego can take that.

That's the transition tag amount. 28M. The Niners, or any other team wanting the guy, will try to fashion a contract offer that the Skins can't/won't match.

I don't see that as being realistic. Even if he has a down year this season, it can be blamed on losing his OC and both of his top 2 WRs. Whatever Kyle and the Niners would've paid him this offseason, I think they'll pay the same next year regardless of what kind of year he has.

His sample size is too small and his performance in big games is still unproven...a tough year will have an effect on his FA market in '18 imo.

Sure, he'll have his staunch supporters (Shanny) but the FO is not going to let him break the bank on him.

 

[Ricky Roma]

Damn if the Mayock rumors are true thats bad news for the NFL network draft broadcast he is the best draft analyst in the business he'll be a big loss.

I agree...the brightest light in an otherwise dim atmosphere getting shut off. I guess I'll get to laugh at Heath Evans telling me how every player today is the best ever and whatnot....

 

[Stomp]

I agree...the brightest light in an otherwise dim atmosphere getting shut off. I guess I'll get to laugh at Heath Evans telling me how every player today is the best ever and whatnot....

Damn Heath Evans would be bad can't stand him

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Damn Heath Evans would be bad can't stand him

He sucks donkey dicks.

 

[Ricky Roma]

Damn Heath Evans would be bad can't stand him

"Listen....Drew Brees is on the Mt. Rushmore of QB's....because....."

Such a laughable turd...debating him would be so much fun.

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

Meanwhile... comedic gold from the unofficial mouthpiece of the Redskins front office.

 

[Manster7588]

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