• Have something to say? Register Now! and be posting in minutes!

LaMichael James

JMedlock5186

New Member
2,744
0
0
Joined
Aug 4, 2011
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
The kid has talent, and can change directions quick. I love that he makes defenders miss
 

RobertPhD01

49er Faithful Member
1,469
39
48
Joined
Aug 4, 2011
Location
Spokane Valley WA
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
I wonder if Harbs will play a bunch of backs on game day like they did at Stanford. James is a freak. I was surprised that his forty times weren't in the 4.3s because his field speed is phenomenal. If there is a crease, he's gone. Love the pick.

Good pick he should improve redzone ,3rd down and yac for us!! GO 49ers!!
 

OregonDucks

Oregon Is Faster
53,912
12,672
1,033
Joined
Sep 7, 2010
Location
Eugene, OR
Hoopla Cash
$ 200.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
he will be a great 3rd down back for you guys.
 

Dodub

Senior Member
9,005
0
0
Joined
Aug 6, 2011
Location
Kansas
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
No way, Dixon is awful and hasnt accomplished anything in his career, Jacobs has averaged 8 tds a year since 2005:ranger:

So would you rather have a 4th string RB who likely has one more year left in his legs and offers nothing more to the team than being the 4th stringer or would you have your 4th stringer be young and a huge contributpr on special teams?

It's a no brainer to me. I think it is more likely that they are both cut than Dixon being cut and Jacobs staying. It makes no sense to keep Jacobs at all at this point. He isn't really a special teams contributor and he's all but lost his legs.
 

Kinzu

Well-Known Member
2,495
236
63
Joined
Aug 10, 2011
Location
Far side of the moon
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
The only thing I don't like about the pick is that we now have 2 running backs in Hunter and James that do not project to be everydown backs. We still do not have a running back on the roster that can be Gore's replacement.

I guess we look for that next year. Jacobs will make the roster as Gore's main backup. James and Hunter will see more playing time though unless Gore gets hurt.
 

Dodub

Senior Member
9,005
0
0
Joined
Aug 6, 2011
Location
Kansas
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
The only thing I don't like about the pick is that we now have 2 running backs in Hunter and James that do not project to be everydown backs. We still do not have a running back on the roster that can be Gore's replacement.

I guess we look for that next year. Jacobs will make the roster as Gore's main backup. James and Hunter will see more playing time though unless Gore gets hurt.

BS Hunter doesn't project to be an every down back. Did you see him last season? He completely proved that to be 100% wrong. Despite his size he was actually the guy I felt most comfortable with on short yardage. He also was our most explosive guy coming out of the back field.

Hunter looked like a future pro bowler last season.

How do you figure he isn't an every down back?
 

Kinzu

Well-Known Member
2,495
236
63
Joined
Aug 10, 2011
Location
Far side of the moon
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
BS Hunter doesn't project to be an every down back. Did you see him last season? He completely proved that to be 100% wrong. Despite his size he was actually the guy I felt most comfortable with on short yardage. He also was our most explosive guy coming out of the back field.

Hunter looked like a future pro bowler last season.

How do you figure he isn't an every down back?

Sproles looks good in limited carries as well, but he is not built to take 20+ carries across 16+ games. I don't think Hunter is either, but I'm pretty sure James is not.
 

Dodub

Senior Member
9,005
0
0
Joined
Aug 6, 2011
Location
Kansas
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Sproles looks good in limited carries as well, but he is not built to take 20+ carries across 16+ games. I don't think Hunter is either, but I'm pretty sure James is not.

Are you kidding? Sproles and Hunter are completely different runners. They don't even have the same body type. Sproles is 5'7" 170 and Hunter is 5'9" 205, Hunter has much more size to him. Even if he isn't the biggest built running back, he is certainly just as compact as a guy like McCoy who no one would argue is an every down back. I just don't see the point you are trying to make here.

Once again how is Hunter not an every down back?
 

Flyingiguana

New Member
5,376
0
0
Joined
Sep 10, 2011
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
hunter is too small to be an every down back. maybe he can be like warrick dunn and carry the load, but he looks more like a solid back up. i think he would wear down with a full load.
 

Dodub

Senior Member
9,005
0
0
Joined
Aug 6, 2011
Location
Kansas
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
hunter is too small to be an every down back. maybe he can be like warrick dunn and carry the load, but he looks more like a solid back up. i think he would wear down with a full load.

8LeSean McCoy 5'11" 205, Hunter 5'8" 205, Frank Gore 5'9" 215, Barry Sanders 5'8" 200, Emmitt Smith 5'9" 215, Maurice Jones Drew 5'7" 208, 5'8" 212, Ahmad Bradshaw 5'10" 212. All of these every down backs is of similar size to Hunter. They are all withing 2 inches (except McCoy) and within 7 lbs (except Gore and Smith).

What exactly is too small to be an every down back? That is like the people who said that Justin Smith would never be able to play in the 3-4 because he was too small. It is absolutely ridiculous.

Please explain your position.....
 
Last edited by a moderator:

NinerSickness

Well-Known Member
61,362
11,401
1,033
Joined
Aug 3, 2011
Hoopla Cash
$ 200.00
That is like the people who said that Justin Smith would never be able to play in the 3-4 because he was too small.

Just to be a stinker I'll point out that they actually said he was too big to play in a 3-4 (because they originally wanted to make him an OLB).

That non-sequitur notwithstanding I completely agree with you about Hunter. I never saw him as a Jahvid Best / Sproles kind of RB. I think he can be a starter; but these days you need at least 2 RBs to carry the load. Hunter & James would do just fine IMO.

And I'm quite happy with the pick. RBs like James are not easy to find, and sometimes they go in round 1 (like Best did).
 

SFAnthem

Brain dead Hacker
5,337
0
0
Joined
Aug 16, 2010
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
The only thing I don't like about the pick is that we now have 2 running backs in Hunter and James that do not project to be everydown backs. We still do not have a running back on the roster that can be Gore's replacement.

I guess we look for that next year. Jacobs will make the roster as Gore's main backup. James and Hunter will see more playing time though unless Gore gets hurt.

What's an every down back? They don't make many of those anymorore the trend is to have more multifaceted offensive schemes with packages for every type of scenario now.
 

Dodub

Senior Member
9,005
0
0
Joined
Aug 6, 2011
Location
Kansas
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Just to be a stinker I'll point out that they actually said he was too big to play in a 3-4 (because they originally wanted to make him an OLB).

That non-sequitur notwithstanding I completely agree with you about Hunter. I never saw him as a Jahvid Best / Sproles kind of RB. I think he can be a starter; but these days you need at least 2 RBs to carry the load. Hunter & James would do just fine IMO.

People said both. But when he was originally signed people were all pissed and saying he was much too small to play DE. Then the rumor came out that he would play OLB and people said he was much too big. I think he turned out pretty well lol.

I agree you do need 2 RB's and i think we have our future lined up pretty nicely in that department with Hunter and James.
 

clyde_carbon

Unfkwthble
10,563
0
0
Joined
Aug 3, 2011
Location
Cloud 9
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Just to be a stinker I'll point out that they actually said he was too big to play in a 3-4 (because they originally wanted to make him an OLB).

That non-sequitur notwithstanding I completely agree with you about Hunter. I never saw him as a Jahvid Best / Sproles kind of RB. I think he can be a starter; but these days you need at least 2 RBs to carry the load. Hunter & James would do just fine IMO.

And I'm quite happy with the pick. RBs like James are not easy to find, and sometimes they go in round 1 (like Best did).

Best had one of the most ridiculous change of direction ability I've ever seen. It was remarkable watching him at Cal. James is great too, but Best is just on a different level.

I hope he recovers from his concussions quickly. He's a joy to watch, and is a great guy as well.
 

clyde_carbon

Unfkwthble
10,563
0
0
Joined
Aug 3, 2011
Location
Cloud 9
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
People said both. But when he was originally signed people were all pissed and saying he was much too small to play DE. Then the rumor came out that he would play OLB and people said he was much too big. I think he turned out pretty well lol.

I agree you do need 2 RB's and i think we have our future lined up pretty nicely in that department with Hunter and James.

Yeah. I was one of the very few that weren't pissed that we signed Justin Smith as I recall. Most of the ESPN board was livid at the time.
 

NinerSickness

Well-Known Member
61,362
11,401
1,033
Joined
Aug 3, 2011
Hoopla Cash
$ 200.00
Yeah. I was one of the very few that weren't pissed that we signed Justin Smith as I recall. Most of the ESPN board was livid at the time.

Oh that. Yeah uhhh.... Someone must've hacked my account when I said those things. I mean when whoever hacked my account said those things I said. :typing:


Speaking of Best, it's too bad he has that concussion issue. I read an article saying his career may be over. That would be a bummer for any player, but what a waste of speed that would be! One of those Bo Jackson type of situations. Hope he can get back on the field... unless the Lions are playing the Niners. In which case better safe than sorry Jahvid! Think of your family until next week.
 

numone9er

Active Member
3,359
1
38
Joined
Aug 3, 2011
Location
San Luis Obispo
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
When i first heard about this i thought my buddy was lying to me. Now that i see it's real, i am okay with it. I didn't really think we needed the help at RB, but i have very little concern about him not being productive.
 

bigpb72

OG Member
507
0
16
Joined
Sep 5, 2011
Location
LA
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
hunter can carry the load ala Ray Rice MJD he fits in there mold of running back style and to be short he is a hell of a blocker he really looks up to gore and baught in to rathmens style so getting a talent like james at the end of the 2nd was nice drafting ..
 

Jikkle

Well-Known Member
4,619
821
113
Joined
Aug 12, 2011
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
I think it's clear now that Harbaugh wants as many different tools at his disposable.

If you look at the way he gameplans it's all about exploiting weaknesses in the defense (Detroit), Out thinking your opponent (Giants 1st game), and creating as many mismatches and throwing off defenses as much as possible.

So basically having 4 different RBs is just a huge headache for defensive coordinators to account for and gameplan.

For example I already have a formation pictured in my mind that could give defenses fits:

2 TE set with Walker and Davis; LaMichael James lined up on the outside as an WR; Hunter and Gore (or Jacobs) split in the backfield. Think of all the things you can do from that formation and all the things defenses would have to account for.

You can pass or play action pass.

You can Fly Sweep with James, with one of the OGs pulling to the side of the run and Hunter or Gore being blockers depending on what side the play is ran on. And for a little trickery you could actually run that as an option play as well.

You can fake the Fly Sweep and hand the ball off to Hunter or Gore to run on the inside, or pitch for them to run on the outside, run a QB bootleg with a with a pulling OG along with James and Gore/Hunter to block, also could bootleg pass there too. Counter might work as well though it might be a little too slow to develop.

So imagine that running through your head as a defender trying to figure out what the play is going to be. Much harder to figure out what's going to happened compared 4 WR set with the QB in shotgun.

Also that's a pretty easy formation to tweak and play around with throughout the season.

And let's not forget one other thing to consider is that speed is one of the hardest things to defend in Football. A defense can have the perfect play called and it could be destroyed simply because the defender can't keep up with the speed. I mean look at how many times in the past our defense has been victimized by it.
 
Top