Kaepernick or RG3....who has the higher ceiling?

[JDM]

If he happens to fall into their lap, sure. But only if it's great value.

 

[SonnyCID]

They still dont have much of any financial investment in Kaep. Which is really what it comes down to.

Harbaugh would like to have him work out, but they dont even have much of a quality back up so bringing in other guys is not out of the realm of possibilities. Lots of teams draft back ups in the 3rd round.

 

[HammerDown]

If he happens to fall into their lap, sure. But only if it's great value.

My point is that Kaepernick's fragile "psyche" won't factor in at all. And if that's an issue, then it's even more reason to start a contingency plan.

 

[JDM]

My point is that Kaepernick's fragile "psyche" won't factor in at all. And if that's an issue, then it's even more reason to start a contingency plan.

If that would break him, then you might as well break him. I absolutely agree there.

 

[RoboticDreams]

So if the 49ers draft team (face it, this isn't Harbaugh's decision to make by any means) has the perfect QB fall into their lap at the perfect slot they won't proceed because of Kapernick's fragile feelings?

If/when the time is right, Harbaugh isn't going down with Kaepernick; he'll save himself. That, or heads will roll.

Kaepernick is more dispensable than you think.

Like I said, Harbaugh is not drafting a QB early in this upcoming draft. We can put meaningless vCash up for bragging rights if you'd like. He is very egotistical and won't admit a mistake this soon.

 

[HammerDown]

Like I said, Harbaugh is not drafting a QB early in this upcoming draft. We can put meaningless vCash up for bragging rights if you'd like. He is very egotistical and won't admit a mistake this soon.

I very well might be wrong, but I highly doubt that the San Francisco 49ers would allow Harbaugh's ego to factor into a draft decision or that he or Kaepernick would in any way cause them to pass on a QB that's the best available at that slot.

It reminds me of Bud Adams insistence that the Titans draft VY. His yes men went right along with it despite Jeff Fisher telling them from the start to the finish that it was a bad idea for a few major reasons. If we had drafted Cutler as Jeff begged them to do, we would have won the Super Bowl in 2008.

I don't know what Harbaugh's ultimate role or sphere of influence is as it relates specifically to the draft but I can't help but think if they find a QB gem at any of their pics, Harbaugh and/or Kaepernick can go fuck themselves. Kaepernick hasn't earned any more consideration than that.

 

[JDM]

Harbaugh has the pull to get his way IMO, although trying to do it over petty shit would lose him that. Kaep can get fucked, though.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I like RG3 a little better as a passer and imo he's the better prospect....but, if the current coaching stays in place for both players I will have to go with Kaep...I think Harbaugh understands he's dealing with a rather raw NFL prospect even though he had a pretty good 1st season starting...he is limiting his responsibilities to cut down on turnovers while he's learning on the job.

I'd like to say the same about the Shannys, but I'm not sure.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Dude, you're delusional if you think they have any intention of investing another 22 starts in Colin Kaepernick. The writing is on the wall.

If SF pulls the trigger on a QB to replace Kaep next season, we can write them off for the next 2 years...there are no QBs in this draft ready to take over a team that's a legitimate SB contender...imo that would be stupid.

I can see them drafting a guy a also, but they really need to find a vet backup with something left in case Kaep starts repeating the same mistakes from this season.

 

[flaraider]

If SF pulls the trigger on a QB to replace Kaep next season, we can write them off for the next 2 years...there are no QBs in this draft ready to take over a team that's a legitimate SB contender...imo that would be stupid.

I can see them drafting a guy a also, but they really need to find a vet backup with something left in case Kaep starts repeating the same mistakes from this season.

I think Matt Flynn might be available

 

[flaraider]

It's not throwing in the towel to use a 3rd or even a late 2nd on a QB. Especially when you consider the amount of picks that they have.

IMO, Harbaugh is too good a QB coach to go down with an individual QB when he can scout and draft some other guys that he believes can be developed.

Hey Sonny, nice avie, btw.

 

[BURN49ers]

I have to go with RG3. Kaepernick has proven himself to be mentally fragile.

Well what can we base this statement off of? Kaepernick led comeback victories in 2 playoff games in which they were trailing (almost 3 including the SB). But that isn't being mentally tough? Sure this season Kaepernick hasn't been as confident in the receiving core as last year, but he didn't have anything outside of Boldin. He has made Vernon back into one of the best TE's in the league.

RG3 has yet to win a playoff game. Has shown good signs, but you see the negatives in his game/ego more than the positives. Sure both RG3 and Kaep are receiving more hype than they deserve. Neither has played as good as last season. Statistically RG3 is leading in passing yards, but they have both have 14 passing td's. Kaep has 3 rushing td's, Griffin has 0. Rg3 has more fumbles/int's (11/11) to kaep's (6/7). Griffin has already proven to be injury prone. Colin has yet to be hurt. Griffin has proven he will put himself in position to end his own career before Kaepernick. So time will tell who has the higher ceiling. But as of right now Kaepernick based off my observations.

 

[DunceKaep]

Personally, I hope Harbaugh, Kaep, and the niners fall often and fall hard.
Personally, I'm betting that won't happen.

I know Kaep is struggling a bit right now, but he still does things very well and more exciting than 2/3 of the QB's in the league.

Why all this doom and gloom, I don't see it.
I hope they fall, but I'm betting that SF makes the playoffs.

 

[cezero]

Well what can we base this statement off of...

Facts derived from reasoned observation.

The rest of your post was hilarious, btw. Please post more like that.

 

[JDM]

I like RG3 a little better as a passer and imo he's the better prospect....but, if the current coaching stays in place for both players I will have to go with Kaep...I think Harbaugh understands he's dealing with a rather raw NFL prospect even though he had a pretty good 1st season starting...he is limiting his responsibilities to cut down on turnovers while he's learning on the job.

I'd like to say the same about the Shannys, but I'm not sure.

Shanahan is a bad coach. His staff is even worse than him. If RG3 isn't the best in the league in a couple years, it is 100% on Shanahan.

 

[France_Steve]

Its funny that last year the overreaction on these guys was so huge. Jaworski said that Kaepernick had the tools to be the best QB in the history of the game. And now that they are not performing as well guys are writing them off completely. They've both played like 26 games each, I will bet both are in the league for a long time. I would say that Kap is unreliable on short passes. He has trouble getting the timing and touch right. on Seattle radio Tim Hasselbeck said that he thinks kap struggles with getting a shotgun pass and throwing a quick pass accurately, which may be true. RG3, as stated, takes too many hits and forces things too much. In the last couple games I have watched him I have been unimpressed with his short passing ability as well. I have heard people say Kap is mentally weak. I find RG3 to be a bit mentally weak. His criticisms of teammates and coaches reveal his immaturity. I would have to say RG3 has a higher ceiling but also a lower basement. I could see him being out for his career next week if his knee goes out again.

 

[HammerDown]

If SF pulls the trigger on a QB to replace Kaep next season, we can write them off for the next 2 years...there are no QBs in this draft ready to take over a team that's a legitimate SB contender...imo that would be stupid.

I can see them drafting a guy a also, but they really need to find a vet backup with something left in case Kaep starts repeating the same mistakes from this season.

I never suggested they'd draft a QB to replace Kaepernick. So I agree with what you're saying.

 

[Southieinnc]

I think the Skins and 49ers trade QBs
RGIII would thrive in SF and Kaep would provide fresh legs for Skins
Both teams would be better off.....

 

[JDM]

The redskins would not be better off.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

If SF pulls the trigger on a QB to replace Kaep next season, we can write them off for the next 2 years...there are no QBs in this draft ready to take over a team that's a legitimate SB contender...imo that would be stupid.

I can see them drafting a guy a also, but they really need to find a vet backup with something left in case Kaep starts repeating the same mistakes from this season.

Drafting a QB next year doesn't mean the 49ers are replacing Kaep next year, it just means you have a plan B at the QB position. The 49ers have a couple of vets as backups now and I doubt they can find any other vet on the market that would be better then what they have now.
I believe the 49ers have 10 draft choices next year and they red shirted a bunch of rookies this year, so they may not find a better time to have a plan B then this years draft.