ITT: Discuss Bama's weak schedule.

[Rolltide94]

I leave it up the better teams playing better schedules to beat lesser teams playing lesser schedules according to the rules in play. And they do around 95% of the time where it counts. The 5% of the time a G5 team comes out on top, they shouldn't be denied the opportunity simply because the better teams are still the better teams. Better teams losing at the rules of competition is no different than losing at the rules of a football game.

And my point about knowing what it takes to make playoffs is that G5 teams have a better chance of attracting better talent and becoming more competitive under a system which allows them to control their destiny versus one that denies the chance beyond highly improbable scenarios.

But it isn't 5%...if we are talking about teams in the top 10...which are the ones that have a legit shot at the playoffs, then it isn't even 1%. It probably isn't even anywhere near 5% for ranked teams.

 

[CJH9972]

But it isn't 5%...if we are talking about teams in the top 10...which are the ones that have a legit shot at the playoffs, then it isn't even 1%. It probably isn't even anywhere near 5% for ranked teams.

I'm not suggesting 5% is how well G5 teams do under the current system. The 5% I speak of is how well G5 teams do under my system when, for example, comparing the top 164 P5 teams to the 164 G5 teams over the past 41 seasons. Pick any one team from each group and the P5 team ranks higher 95%.

 

[The Oldtimer]

Just so we are clear.

The Pac-12 for 2019 is 0-5 versus ranked OOC teams.

You are 5-4 versus P5 teams the 5 wins are over 5 teams that are 15-27, the best record is 4-4

You are 11-7 versus G5 teams...the 11 wins are over teams with a combined record of 39-56, only two have winning records, 5-4 Nevada and 5-4 Hawaii...who only has a winning record because they are 2-1 vs Pac-12 Teams, lol.

You are 4-4 vs the Mountain West, congratulations I guess.

You are 8-0 versus FCS...go on with your bad self.

We are literally on a thread mocking Alabama's Schedule and Duke has as many wins as any P5 team your entire conference has beaten and Southern Miss at 5-3 has a better record than any G5 team your entire conference has beaten. Everything else any Pac-12 team has done has been against another Pac-12 team with an equally shitty OOC record.


Oregon does have your lone legit win over a team with a winning record, so if you want to pimp them out be my guest, but the whole conference sure looks like hot garbage to me, the fact that you have two teams in the top 10 should be cause for laughter.

Okay!!!

 

[NU_FTW]

I'm not suggesting 5% is how well G5 teams do under the current system. The 5% I speak of is how well G5 teams do under my system when, for example, comparing the top 164 P5 teams to the 164 G5 teams over the past 41 seasons. Pick any one team from each group and the P5 team ranks higher 95%.

164 P5 teams when there are not even that many in FBS...... okay....................

G5=Poo Poo winning a G5 conference is at best the accomplishments a low tier P5 can accomplish.... Poo Poo

 

[The Oldtimer]

I'm ok with that.... But we beat LSD & win out to the playoffs. We deserve it.

Yes Bama deserves better if they "win out to the playoffs")

 

[CJH9972]

164 P5 teams when there are not even that many in FBS...... okay....................

G5=Poo Poo winning a G5 conference is at best the accomplishments a low tier P5 can accomplish.... Poo Poo

I'm referring to all the individual seasons...not programs....otherwise good point once again.

 

[NU_FTW]

I'm referring to all the individual seasons...not programs....otherwise good point once again.

So what you are saying is your imaginary program is just garbage that you make up in your head and when it faces judgment you move goal posts and make excuses, cool story.

 

[CJH9972]

So what you are saying is your imaginary program is just garbage that you make up in your head and when it faces judgment you move goal posts and make excuses, cool story.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I'm not concerned with any criticisms. Bring them on.

 

[NU_FTW]

I have no idea what you are talking about. I'm not concerned with any criticisms. Bring them on.

You have no idea about many things, including college football.

 

[CJH9972]

You have no idea about many things, including college football.

Solid argument.

 

[Rolltide94]

I'm not suggesting 5% is how well G5 teams do under the current system. The 5% I speak of is how well G5 teams do under my system when, for example, comparing the top 164 P5 teams to the 164 G5 teams over the past 41 seasons. Pick any one team from each group and the P5 team ranks higher 95%.

I don't know if I can get high enough to understand what the fuck that even means...gonna give it a shot though.

 

[CJH9972]

I don't know if I can get high enough to understand what the fuck that even means...gonna give it a shot though.

Bad example. Try this. 41 seasons. P5/equivalent teams own a 153-11 advantage over G5 in top four finishes. That's 93%. That is the reward for being better teams playing better schedules. It shouldn't a beauty contest format that essentially denies G5 teams any realistic chance of ever making the playoffs or maximizing their potential. And it is not like G5 teams are guaranteed to get there under these rules if teams are knowingly playing by them.

 

[fishinabarrel]

Bad example. Try this. 41 seasons. P5/equivalent teams own a 153-11 advantage over G5 in top four finishes. That's 93%. That is the reward for being better teams playing better schedules. It shouldn't a beauty contest format that essentially denies G5 teams any realistic chance of ever making the playoffs or maximizing their potential. And it is not like G5 teams are guaranteed to get there under these rules if teams are knowingly playing by them.

So, bc a certain group wins 7% of the time they should have the same opportunity of the group that wins 93% of the time? Not sure what you are saying here

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

I’m glad our schedule provides some much solace for fans of teams already looking to basketball season...

 

[CJH9972]

So, bc a certain group wins 7% of the time they should have the same opportunity of the group that wins 93% of the time? Not sure what you are saying here

I'm saying all FBS should be subject to fair objective rules that apply the same to all FBS teams. My preferred rules are an example of such. Under those rules, P5 teams have dominated to the tune of 153-11 in top four finishes. That is their reward for being better teams playing better schedules. I'm not suggesting G5 teams be guaranteed equal outcomes. In fact, there is no guarantee a G5 team makes the playoffs if teams actually played by these rules.

 

[Rolltide94]

Bad example. Try this. 41 seasons. P5/equivalent teams own a 153-11 advantage over G5 in top four finishes. That's 93%. That is the reward for being better teams playing better schedules. It shouldn't a beauty contest format that essentially denies G5 teams any realistic chance of ever making the playoffs or maximizing their potential. And it is not like G5 teams are guaranteed to get there under these rules if teams are knowingly playing by them.

Jesus Christ, there isn't enough weed on the planet to make this coherent. What are you even saying are you saying that in 41 season G5 teams have finished in the top 4 11 times? How did you come up with that number, counting all the Big East top 4 as G5? Maybe let's start by answering that question, then we can move on to whatever dense point you are trying to make.

 

[CJH9972]

Jesus Christ, there isn't enough weed on the planet to make this coherent. What are you even saying are you saying that in 41 season G5 teams have finished in the top 4 11 times? How did you come up with that number, counting all the Big East top 4 as G5? Maybe let's start by answering that question, then we can move on to whatever dense point you are trying to make.

I have results for the last 41 seasons based on my point system. Over that period, power teams have a 153-11 advantage in top four finishes nationally compared to non power teams. That is the benefit of being better teams playing better schedules under my idea. However, it seems for some that anything less than 164-0 Is unfair to power teams.

 

[NU_FTW]

Jesus Christ, there isn't enough weed on the planet to make this coherent. What are you even saying are you saying that in 41 season G5 teams have finished in the top 4 11 times? How did you come up with that number, counting all the Big East top 4 as G5? Maybe let's start by answering that question, then we can move on to whatever dense point you are trying to make.

Dude ate way too many paint chip and paste sandwiches. There is no point in "discussing" with this reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

[cclxxxvdicere]

I have results for the last 41 seasons based on my point system. Over that period, power teams have a 153-11 advantage in top four finishes nationally compared to non power teams. That is the benefit of being better teams playing better schedules under my idea. However, it seems for some that anything less than 164-0 Is unfair to power teams.

Perhaps you could tell us the years and the teams and let us judge.

 

[Deep Creek]

I agree with him that Alabama hasn’t earned anything yet. Of course, neither has anyone else. We do not and cannot know until the end of the season who has earned what. Too much FB to be played.

I gave us ranked 5th, and think that is reasonable given our schedule so far.

While I agree with you, Clem hasn't earned it either. And they might not even get a "yet" when the regular season has concluded..

But, I'll take Clem straight up over anyone they'd play in the semifinal right now! (Sorry Clem fans, I may have just jinxed you!)

But, if I knew what the hell I was doing I'd have more than $2 in vcash and own Vegas!