Is Westbrook the most gifted guard in NBA history ?..

[Wamu]

Do tell, why not elaborate ?
Oscar had excellent coordination ,but he was not that quick. He was closer to Magic in athleticism, but he wasn't the all court PG Magic was.

And Larry Bird wasn't quick. How did his career turn out?

 

[Wamu]

I have already said RW is the most athletic PG we have ever seen, in these times that is expected. If Oscar was playing now I would venture to say things would be different. Him being a big, stronger guard doesn't take anything away from his scoring ability bc he was one of the greatest scoring guards of all-time.

The Big O is was also 1 of the greatest @ dishing out assists as well.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

And Larry Bird wasn't quick. How did his career turn out?

Bird was nothing like Oscar. Bird was stronger, longer, a better shooter with superior range even by today's standards.
Look, I believe Big-O would be maybe a 22-7-8 player on the right team today, that is to say the least excellent, but it's not all time great.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

The Big O is was also 1 of the greatest @ dishing out assists as well.

He was a great passer, but not a great open court passer.

 

[Wamu]

He was a great passer, but not a great open court passer.

Holy crap.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

I have already said RW is the most athletic PG we have ever seen but seems like he is arguing he is or could be the best. IMO he isn't, could he? Who knows. Like you said, he is doing what the Thunder need him to do. Doesn't help if it doesn't win you anything.

No player I know of other than maybe Bill Russell in his first 2 years in Boston has won a title with the level of supporting cast Westbrook has. Too bad The Thunder didn't trade Harden for an equally talented but more complimentary player and kept Durant.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

Holy crap.

Again, excellent retort...not.

 

[Wamu]

Again, excellent retort...not.

How did you expect me respond to that idiotic comment? Maybe next you'll say that for a G he wasn't a good rebounder as well.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

I have already said RW is the most athletic PG we have ever seen, in these times that is expected. If Oscar was playing now I would venture to say things would be different. Him being a big, stronger guard doesn't take anything away from his scoring ability bc he was one of the greatest scoring guards of all-time.

He was a great scorer in half court and a good to decent full court player.
He was very good with mid range shots, finishing etc, but his prolific scoring came from backing toward the basket, turning around and hitting 10 ft shots, often by banking them in. I just don't think he could average over 22 pts with his skill set and limited quickness. Could he possibly have adapted to more of a James Harden type offensive player ? sure, it's possible, but I don't see anything that makes me think it would be real likely.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

How did you expect me respond to that idiotic comment? Maybe next you'll say that for a G he wasn't a good rebounder as well.

Weak stuff dude.

 

[Wamu]

Weak stuff dude.

Troll on.

 

[BallsOfFurry]

Troll on.

You've got nothing.
Be honest, say uncle.

 

[Inimical]

Hes to short to be the most gifted. Genetically hes playing above himself. His fire though, god if Lebron played like him? This guy is a million times more aggressive and is dropping trip dubs like no ones business. Hes going to pass AI in my book for his size at the very least. Also he couldnt shoot when he came into the league, hes really worked on it, again shows his work ethic.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Hes to short to be the most gifted. Genetically hes playing above himself. His fire though, god if Lebron played like him? This guy is a million times more aggressive and is dropping trip dubs like no ones business. Hes going to pass AI in my book for his size at the very least. Also he couldnt shoot when he came into the league, hes really worked on it, again shows his work ethic.

Lebron isn't aggressive? Lebron doesn't have drive? LMAO. You have no idea what you are talking about.

RW STILL can't shoot, he is just shooting at much higher volume bc that is what his team needs from him. He is shooting 7 3 pointers a game at 34%. His overall FG% is the 3rd lowest of his career. He is a great player and he has great athleticism but lets not make him out something he isn't. He is a high volume shooter that shoots at a low percentage.

 

[Wamu]

Hes to short to be the most gifted. Genetically hes playing above himself. His fire though, god if Lebron played like him? This guy is a million times more aggressive and is dropping trip dubs like no ones business. Hes going to pass AI in my book for his size at the very least. Also he couldnt shoot when he came into the league, hes really worked on it, again shows his work ethic.

He still isn't a good shooter. He's a career 43.3% shooter & this year he's @ 42.5%. Only twice in his career has he had a shooting percentage better than 45%. But he's a helluva hoopster.

 

[tlance]

He still isn't a good shooter. He's a career 43.3% shooter & this year he's @ 42.5%. Only twice in his career has he had a shooting percentage better than 45%. But he's a helluva hoopster.

FG% is a function of shot selection more than shooting ability unless we are talking about somebody who only takes open shots.

Russ is not a bad shooter, he just takes a lot of bad shots. And no, it isn't all because his teammates suck.

 

[GNG]

You can't tell when someone is trolling?

Neither can you.

 

[Inimical]

Lebron isn't aggressive? Lebron doesn't have drive? LMAO. You have no idea what you are talking about.

RW STILL can't shoot, he is just shooting at much higher volume bc that is what his team needs from him. He is shooting 7 3 pointers a game at 34%. His overall FG% is the 3rd lowest of his career. He is a great player and he has great athleticism but lets not make him out something he isn't. He is a high volume shooter that shoots at a low percentage.

I didn't say any of that, read again lol

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

Poor shooter, careless turnover machine, and lately shitty defense as well

The short answer NO

 

[Shanemansj13]

I didn't say any of that, read again lol

Hes to short to be the most gifted. Genetically hes playing above himself. His fire though, god if Lebron played like him? This guy is a million times more aggressive and is dropping trip dubs like no ones business. Hes going to pass AI in my book for his size at the very least. Also he couldnt shoot when he came into the league, hes really worked on it, again shows his work ethic.

Cmon man.

"A million times more aggressive" Lebron is one of the most aggressive players we have seen EVER for a guy that wasn't a post player and it started by driving the ball to the hoop hard like RW. Lebron has taken more hits than anyone in the league, not this year, in recent years.

So a million times more aggressive is not accurate at all.

"His fire though, god if Lebron played like him" So Lebron doesn't have fire? RW has always played with an edge but to say Lebron doesn't have fire is again inaccurate. He can take the regular season lightly now as he has aged but come playoff time it's go time...

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