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[Black Adam]

You are aware that the basis of your religion is that Jesus had to be killed for ou to be "saved", right? Assuming your god is real they killed him because god made them, making it foolish to judge them for it.

"God made them"? er, no. God simply knew it was going to happen...

 

[JDM]

"God made them"? er, no. God simply knew it was going to happen...

You being saved relied upon him being killed. Considering this crucial factor, whether god "made" them (which is not an unreasonable guess by any means, see Moses and the pharaoh) doesn't actually matter. If they would not have done it by their own devices he would have had to make them.

 

[JDM]

considering one of the things that Jesus spoke out against was witchcraft((drug use/abuse) i doubt it very seriously...

How are witchcraft and drug use related in any way?

 

[Black Adam]

You being saved relied upon him being killed. Considering this crucial factor, whether god "made" them (which is not an unreasonable guess by any means, see Moses and the pharaoh) doesn't actually matter. If they would not have done it by their own devices he would have had to make them.

sorry, but you're assuming then that God is sitting in Heaven with a joystick running people's lives, which simply ISN'T the case. if it were then who could have the choice of not believing in him...?

ever consider the reason he was sent to begin with was because people were so messed up...?


just puttin' that out there...

 

[Black Adam]

How are witchcraft and drug use related in any way?

drug use is pretty prevelent when it comes to seances, etc. been that way since the beginning...


it ain't just a matter of "hocus pocus"...

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Lol at the people mad about a picture of Jesus with a pot leaf. It was clearly lighthearted, and who cares anyways? It's weed...

Leave it to the Bible thumpers to try to impose their will/ways on society.
It was CLEARLY not a post meant to stir up religious debate.

I propose the Thumpers start a thread about the "idiots who killed Jesus" if they want to get into that topic.

 

[JDM]

sorry, but you're assuming then that God is sitting in Heaven with a joystick running people's lives, which simply ISN'T the case. if it were then who could have the choice of not believing in him...?

ever consider the reason he was sent to begin with was because people were so messed up...?


just puttin' that out there...

Exodus 10:1-2

Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go to Pharaoh, for I have hardened his heart and the hearts of his officials so that I may perform these signs of mine among them 2 that you may tell your children and grandchildren how I dealt harshly with the Egyptians and how I performed my signs among them, and that you may know that I am the Lord.”

 

[JDM]

drug use is pretty prevelent when it comes to seances, etc. been that way since the beginning...


it ain't just a matter of "hocus pocus"...

Just because doing something in the context of witchcraft is bad doesn't make it bad in general. They do some shitty dance or two, too, generally. Is dancing bad because it's used in witchcraft?


What are the significant differences between marijuana and alcohol, which Jesus specifically made appear?

 

[24seven]

 

[shitsho]

Your reading something thats been translated 100 times over. At this point we really don't know if weed was considered a "drug" or magic. It may have been just something people did like drinking tea or smoking a pipe. Anyway there are too many religions based on their interpretation of events for anyone to say with any certainty what exactly was or was not ok to do. There is a lot of conventional wisdom in the Bible but people sure get upset if someone elses interpretation doesn't jibe with theirs.

 

[BOTSLAYER]

@CL

You are on to something about "he was sent to begin with was because people were so messed up"

Religion is a great way to give people a set of rules, it works exactly as a Santa does for children.

It also gives answers of life after death before science.

 

[shitsho]

Just because doing something in the context of witchcraft is bad doesn't make it bad in general. They do some shitty dance or two, too, generally. Is dancing bad because it's used in witchcraft?


What are the significant differences between marijuana and alcohol, which Jesus specifically made appear?

Obviously weed can be consumed in several different ways. Alcohol can only be consumed in liquid form. I think that makes sense right?

 

[JDM]

Obviously weed can be consumed in several different ways. Alcohol can only be consumed in liquid form. I think that makes sense right?

You can kind of stretch that. Half of those are still liquids but there are ways to put it in some foods.

 

[JDM]

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[shitsho]

You can kind of stretch that. Half of those are still liquids but there are ways to put it in some foods.

Well I give up. How do we know whats un-godly and whats not? As a matter of fact who's religion is the real religion?

 

[Jims_Doors]

Exodus 10:1-2

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

Check these fine upstanding men (obviously not thugs) dressed as police officers.

Come on silly, how can they be thugs? They dont have tattoos and wild hair.

 

[Black Adam]

Exodus 10:1-2

he's saying "because of me", not "i did it". good scripture, though...

 

[Black Adam]

@CL

You are on to something about "he was sent to begin with was because people were so messed up"

Religion is a great way to give people a set of rules, it works exactly as a Santa does for children.

It also gives answers of life after death before science.

well, i believe it's MORE than "just a set of rules". if anyone believes they can stay 100% spotless all their lives their wrong. even unbelievers say "nobody's perfect". fact is science STILL doesn't have all the answers. the Santa thing though is a pretty good analogy. in God's eyes we ARE children. good stuff...

 

[JDM]

he's saying "because of me", not "i did it". good scripture, though...

Unless there's a significantly different translation somewhere I don't see that. I see "I did it". I think it's semantics, though. He "caused" it, similar to how he likely "caused" Jesus to be crucified. Remember, Jesus absolutely had to be crucified for the religion to hold. If it had to happen, it seems silly to me to judge those involved too harshly, especially if god had a role in making it happen.


I am not a Christian, but I have extensive knowledge of Christianity as a result of being raised as a Christian and reading the entire bible (only straight through once) probably at least 15-20 times, so please don't view that as being clueless on the topic. As for drugs, while I would consider a lot of drug use as treating your body badly, or otherwise not using your abilities as efficiently as you should, both bad under the bible, I wouldn't consider casual marijuana use in violation of its principals, although someone smoking a couple ounces a day, and certainly on the other extreme, something like crack, absolutely as bad. I think casual marijuana use could easily be viewed as similar to alcohol.