Is Nebraska having buyers remorse?

[Jack_John_Mark]

WTF does Texas have to do with it?

I'll say it again. I'll put Nebraska's worst years in half a century up against any other blue-bloods down cycles. Nebraska has fared rather well.
12 of 16 down years with either 9, 10, 11, or 12 wins. Only two without a bowl. Having to change conferences to a completely different style of football along the way. The Big 10 teams only had to adjust to 1 new team. Nebraska has had to adjust to 11.

Pelini has done one hell of a job

 

[Texas Jefe]

I think year to year is cyclical, but not the long run. It no accident that the southeast and Florida led the country in population growth going into the 2000s. Same time tthe Rust belt was dying. You are seeing that play out with recruiting and football. As a Longhorn fan I have considered this several times. I have always had the Pac #1 and the ACC #2 option if Texas ever moved. I dont think the Big has much to offer.

I certainly see the population shift. I worked 20 years in an industry that plotted the shift- South, and to the gulf and West coasts. But I also have seen how each generation of young people sometimes make a change to be different. I think there will come a time when it will be the 'in' thing to trek North to old school places. So I think that gives those schools a chance to be successful again.

However there is no arguing the new population centers and the whole dynamic of the changes still ongoing.

 

[HuskerOC]

I think year to year is cyclical, but not the long run. It no accident that the southeast and Florida led the country in population growth going into the 2000s. Same time tthe Rust belt was dying. You are seeing that play out with recruiting and football. As a Longhorn fan I have considered this several times. I have always had the Pac #1 and the ACC #2 option if Texas ever moved. I dont think the Big has much to offer.

Well, then you better start requesting your school to make the move then.

Quit talking about it, and do some action on your end to make it happen. Obviously the Big 12 is garbage, and Texas needs to plant their feet in the Pac 12 or ACC. You can't afford to miss out on the opportunity, and strike for action now!

Or are you just trolling some more?

 

[TexasExes98]

Yep, and if it wasn't for Switzer, Fred Akers would have gone on an incredible run for Texas that we'd still be talking about today.

Lets see, Switzer retires in 1989, Colorado wins a National Championship in 1990 and yet Nebraska is the biggest benefactor after beating 2 SEC champs in title games and Miami in their own backyard?

Yep. I think we got it. Thanks for the education as always TE98.

Ol Fred Akers doesn't receive enough credit when he was coach at Texas. He had a winning record vs. Switzer (5-4-1) and played for the NC in '77, and '83. Anyway, Osborne was 12-5 vs. Switzer. Switzer resigns and Nebraska goes on a run. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

 

[Red_Alert]

That had more to do with Switzer resigning more than anything, since he owned Osborne. If Switzer doesn't resign, Nebraska doesn't go on that run, IMO.....

Or Osborne evens the score with him.

I take nothing away from Switzer and Oklahoma. Great program. They do more with less.

 

[psaboy]

OK. You said 10 years.


..........ND....NU

2013 (9-4) (9-4)
2012 (12-1*) (10-4)
2011 (8-5) (9-4)
2010 (8-5) (10-4)
2009 (6-6) (10-4)
2008 (6-6) (9-4)
2007 (3-9) (5-7) In Nebraska's worst year, ND managed to suck worse.
2006 (10-3) (9-5)
2005 (9-3) (8-4)
2004 (6-6) (5-6)
-----------------------
Wins..67.......83


Point being ND has had higher recruiting rankings and more media pump than Nebraska yet can't seem to do any better overall.

I would like to know the strength of schedule on above records/years. Have hunch ND had tougher, but not sure.

 

[TexasExes98]

WTF does Texas have to do with it?

I'll say it again. I'll put Nebraska's worst years in half a century up against any other blue-bloods down cycles. Nebraska has fared rather well.
12 of 16 down years with either 9, 10, 11, or 12 wins. Only two without a bowl. Having to change conferences to a completely different style of football along the way. The Big 10 teams only had to adjust to 1 new team. Nebraska has had to adjust to 11.

GMAB, NU went from a conference where the offenses were 3 times more explosive and faster pace than any B1G team. Adjusting to the 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense isn't exactly tough to do. Stop being a drama queen.

 

[Red_Alert]

I would like to know the strength of schedule on above records/years. Have hunch ND had tougher, but not sure.

Help yourself. You'll find some service academy losses in there.

 

[HuskerOC]

GMAB, NU went from a conference where the offenses were 3 times more explosive and faster pace than any B1G team. Adjusting to the 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense isn't exactly tough to do. Stop being a drama queen.

Yep.

And that awesome fast-paced scoring conference's champion is all of 2-6 in BCS Bowl Games in the last 8 years.

That awesome conference is also a solid 4-10 vs. the SEC the past 5 years. And that includes OU's win over Alabama.

And here you thought the Big 10 was so bad...

 

[Red_Alert]

GMAB, NU went from a conference where the offenses were 3 times more explosive and faster pace than any B1G team. Adjusting to the 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense isn't exactly tough to do. Stop being a drama queen.

If you knew your college football you'd know that Nebraska's rush defense has been it's Achilles heel in the Big 10.

Pelini's defense was good in the Big 12. It was the offense that sucked.

Nebraska needs to get better up front defensively to get past the 9 and 10 win mark in the Big 10. It's as simple as that.

 

[Red_Alert]

"3 times more explosive and faster pace than any B1G team" = 13 points.

"3 yards and a cloud of dust offense" = 48, 48, 45, 63, and 70 points

LMAO

What a fuckin' dumbass.

 

[psaboy]

2013 (9-4) (9-4)
2012 (12-1*) (10-4)
2011 (8-5) (9-4)
2010 (8-5) (10-4)
2009 (6-6) (10-4)
2008 (6-6) (9-4)
2007 (3-9) (5-7) In Nebraska's worst year, ND managed to suck worse.
2006 (10-3) (9-5)
2005 (9-3) (8-4)
2004 (6-6) (5-6)
-----------------------
Wins..67.......83

04: ND 8 & NU 68th
05: 3 & 14
06: 16 & 31
07: 62 & 45
08: 56 & 38
09: 52 & 40
10: 29 & 25
11: 29 & 23
12: 6 & 13
13: 44 & 39

There you go, I'm not sure where to take it from here ??

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

I seriously don't even buy the Conference stereotypes anymore. I used to, but now I think it's just garbage.

 

[TexasExes98]

"3 times more explosive and faster pace than any B1G team" = 13 points.

"3 yards and a cloud of dust offense" = 48, 48, 45, 63, and 70 points

LMAO

What a fuckin' dumbass.

B1G had 3 teams in the top 25 in total offense. Only 2 teams in the top 25 in scoring offense. Fucking dumbass....

 

[Red_Alert]

2013 (9-4) (9-4)
2012 (12-1*) (10-4)
2011 (8-5) (9-4)
2010 (8-5) (10-4)
2009 (6-6) (10-4)
2008 (6-6) (9-4)
2007 (3-9) (5-7) In Nebraska's worst year, ND managed to suck worse.
2006 (10-3) (9-5)
2005 (9-3) (8-4)
2004 (6-6) (5-6)
-----------------------
Wins..67.......83

04: ND 8 & NU 68th
05: 3 & 14
06: 16 & 31
07: 62 & 45
08: 56 & 38
09: 52 & 40
10: 29 & 25
11: 29 & 23
12: 6 & 13
13: 44 & 39

There you go, I'm not sure where to take it from here ??

So (04) was the only year ND's SOS was substantially tougher and Notre Dame went (6-6).

 

[psaboy]

So (04) was the only year ND's SOS was substantially tougher and Notre Dame went (6-6).

Yep, they played way tougher schedule than Huskers in 04

 

[Red_Alert]

B1G had 3 teams in the top 25 in total offense. Only 2 teams in the top 25 in scoring offense. Fucking dumbass....

2009 Nebraska Defense - Big 12....12, 31, 9, 10, 3, 17, 3, 20, 12 points
2010 Nebraska Defense - Big 12....13, 20, 41, 17, 30, 3, 9, 17, 20 points

3 times over 20 points in two seasons....31 was Texas Tech, 41 was Okie St, 30 was Iowa St

Big 12 is "3 times more explosive and faster pace than any B1G team"

2011 Nebraska Defense - Big 10...48, 27, 14, 3, 28, 14, 45, 7 points
2012 Nebraska Defense - Big 10...27, 63, 28, 9, 24, 23, 14, 7, 70 points
2013 Nebraska Defense - Big 10...19, 7, 34, 24, 13, 41, 20, 38 points

10 times over 20 points in two seasons 2011/2012 or 2012/2013

Big 10 is " 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense isn't exactly tough to do"

Like I said before. Pelini's defense was built for the Big 12. It's had to be completely revamped for the style of play in the Big 10.

 

[TexasExes98]

2009 Nebraska Defense - Big 12....12, 31, 9, 10, 3, 17, 3, 20, 12 points
2010 Nebraska Defense - Big 12....13, 20, 41, 17, 30, 3, 9, 17, 20 points

3 times over 20 points in two seasons....31 was Texas Tech, 41 was Okie St, 30 was Iowa St

Big 12 is "3 times more explosive and faster pace than any B1G team"

2011 Nebraska Defense - Big 10...48, 27, 14, 3, 28, 14, 45, 7 points
2012 Nebraska Defense - Big 10...27, 63, 28, 9, 24, 23, 14, 7, 70 points
2013 Nebraska Defense - Big 10...19, 7, 34, 24, 13, 41, 20, 38 points

10 times over 20 points in two seasons 2011/2012 or 2012/2013

Big 10 is " 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense isn't exactly tough to do"

Like I said before. Pelini's defense was built for the Big 12. It's had to be completely revamped for the style of play in the Big 10.

You're using 3 years as a measuring stick for NU's defense in the B1G but only 2 years from the Big 12? Is it b/c 2008 doesn't help your argument?

2008 NU defense in Big 12....35, 52, 37, 62, 35, 28, 31. The reason NU had pretty good defenses in '09 and '10 is b/c they had much better talent on the defensive side than they had the past 3 years (Suh, Amukamara, Crick, etc.).

 

[Red_Alert]

So who's got the offenses more suitable to have success against Nebraska?

The "3 times more explosive and faster pace than any B1G team" Big 12, or "3 yards and a cloud of dust offense isn't exactly tough to do" Big 10? Pelini locked that Big 12 shit down after his first year.

He's had to adjust their style and personnel to be better up front in the Big 10. Hopefully year 4 things will finally come together.

 

[Red_Alert]

You're using 3 years as a measuring stick for NU's defense in the B1G but only 2 years from the Big 12? Is it b/c 2008 doesn't help your argument?

2008 NU defense in Big 12....35, 52, 37, 62, 35, 28, 31. The reason NU had pretty good defenses in '09 and '10 is b/c they had much better talent on the defensive side than they had the past 3 years (Suh, Amukamara, Crick, etc.).

Did you miss this part? 10 times over 20 points in two seasons 2011/2012 or 2012/2013
If I used all three years in the Big 10 it would be 14 times over 20 pts.

In 2008 Pelini was in his first year taking over for Kevin Cosgrove. A complete revamp of the 2007 horrific defense.