Is Nebraska having buyers remorse?

[TexasExes98]

You troll so hard, full time.

Only you guys

 

[Red_Alert]

I don't see any Sooners talking down to Nebraska. Check yourself and stop being butthurt. Going to the B1G didn't do Nebraska any favors. This is year 15 since your last conference title in football. Let that soak in. Beating Bama didn't make OU hot shit, we've always been hot shit, cept for those John Blake years.

Blake years?

You mean the Gibbs, Schnellenburger, Blake years?

1999 (7-5)
1998 (5-6)
1997 (4-8)
1996 (3-8)
1995 (5-1-1)
1994 (6-6)
1993 (9-3)
1992 (5-4-2)
1991 (9-3)
1990 (8-3)
1989 (7-4)
1988 (9-3)

Like I said, I think Nebraska's fared their blue-blood down cycle rather well compared to most.

 

[Texas Jefe]

It's all cyclical. There will come a time when it will be the cool thing for guys to go North to the B1G. Not sure when but It will happen.

I think Nebraska is a fit in the B1G. However I think that it is interesting to compare the Big12 with these mega conferences and see there may be a benefit to belonging to one that is not so large. I do think Nebraska, football wise, could be a bigger player in the Big12.

 

[HuskerOC]

For the scrubs maybe.

OU is going coast to coast.

2014 class was
6 Cali
2 Arizona
1 Georgia
2 Louisiana
1 Mississippi
1 Ohio
1 Tennessee
1 Utah
4 Oklahoma
6 Texas

Oklahoma will always recruit well because they are Okla-fucking-homa.

As for Nebraka's 2014 class?

Florida 3
Illinois 2
Nevada 1
Kansas 1
Missouri 2
Nebraska 3
Virginia 1
Texas 4
Louisiana 3
Wisconsin 1
Mississippi 1
Georgia 1
Alabama 1

 

[TexasExes98]

The Big 10 still has the biggest population area of any conference. And it isn't even close. Dwindling or not, there are great football players in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and the Northeast. The additions of Rutgers and Maryland now open up fertile recruiting grounds in the NJ area and Virginia Beach and Maryland. That is a lot of ground, and a lot of people.


The Pac12 has California for its recruiting grounds. Not sure I see much difference between that and Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, the Northeast, and now a good portion of the East Coast. Just like the Big 12 has Texas.

The ACC is in deep with the SEC for talent. Like everybody else they are losing that battle. Only Florida State and Miami do we ever see in Top 10 recruiting rankings and occasionally we see Clemson on that list.

The Big 12 is the biggest loser right now regarding recruiting. Recruiting grounds haven't been expanded (actually lessened), and Texas is the feeder for the entire conference. While Oklahoma has a good bit of talent, now the areas of Missouri and Texas are more up for sale than they have ever been with Missouri and aTm moving to the SEC. Not only does everybody in the country dip their hands into the Texas talent, now the SEC has full on steam to get after it in Texas. And yes, even Big 10 teams like Nebraska and Michigan have solid ties to Texas high schools and recruiting.

The thing is, the state of Texas is so vast and full of elite talent there is plenty to go around. The SEC has always recruited Texas well, long before Aggy joined so that isn't anything new. The biggest loser may be Nebraska, as they will start losing on Texas recruits (actually, they already have) and will have to rely on Midwest recruits. All you need is the right coach and you can rely on nothing but Texas recruits (refer to Baylor and Okie jr). WVU's recruiting ranking has also picked up since they joined the Big 12.

 

[MarkOU]

Blake years?

You mean the Gibbs, Schnellenburger, Blake years?

1999 (7-5)
1998 (5-6)
1997 (4-8)
1996 (3-8)
1995 (5-1-1)
1994 (6-6)
1993 (9-3)
1992 (5-4-2)
1991 (9-3)
1990 (8-3)
1989 (7-4)
1988 (9-3)

Like I said, I think Nebraska's fared their blue-blood down cycle rather well compared to most.

I don't consider Gibbs a bust. He coached the team during those sanction years. Hell of a job, hell of a job.

They will forever be known as the blake years. Howards 1 year, ok whatever. Blake was terrible. 96 was the worst season ever.

Let me ask you this though..

Is it a coincidence that the greatest 4 year stretch in Nebraska football history (94-97)just so happen to be the worst 4 year stretch in Oklahoma football history?

 

[Codaxx]

It's all cyclical. There will come a time when it will be the cool thing for guys to go North to the B1G. Not sure when but It will happen.

I think Nebraska is a fit in the B1G. However I think that it is interesting to compare the Big12 with these mega conferences and see there may be a benefit to belonging to one that is not so large. I do think Nebraska, football wise, could be a bigger player in the Big12.

I think year to year is cyclical, but not the long run. It no accident that the southeast and Florida led the country in population growth going into the 2000s. Same time tthe Rust belt was dying. You are seeing that play out with recruiting and football. As a Longhorn fan I have considered this several times. I have always had the Pac #1 and the ACC #2 option if Texas ever moved. I dont think the Big has much to offer.

 

[Codaxx]

The Big 10 still has the biggest population area of any conference. And it isn't even close. Dwindling or not, there are great football players in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and the Northeast. The additions of Rutgers and Maryland now open up fertile recruiting grounds in the NJ area and Virginia Beach and Maryland. That is a lot of ground, and a lot of people.


The Pac12 has California for its recruiting grounds. Not sure I see much difference between that and Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, the Northeast, and now a good portion of the East Coast. Just like the Big 12 has Texas.

The ACC is in deep with the SEC for talent. Like everybody else they are losing that battle. Only Florida State and Miami do we ever see in Top 10 recruiting rankings and occasionally we see Clemson on that list.

The Big 12 is the biggest loser right now regarding recruiting. Recruiting grounds haven't been expanded (actually lessened), and Texas is the feeder for the entire conference. While Oklahoma has a good bit of talent, now the areas of Missouri and Texas are more up for sale than they have ever been with Missouri and aTm moving to the SEC. Not only does everybody in the country dip their hands into the Texas talent, now the SEC has full on steam to get after it in Texas. And yes, even Big 10 teams like Nebraska and Michigan have solid ties to Texas high schools and recruiting.

This whole post has so little truth in it? Oklahoma has a good bit of talent instate? Even OU fans wouldnt say that. State of Texas alone has put more players to the NFL than Ohio, Michigan, and Penn combined. That the issue. Big 10 needs to rely on recruiting out of the region. That us just hard.

 

[HuskerOC]

The thing is, the state of Texas is so vast and full of elite talent there is plenty to go around. The SEC has always recruited Texas well, long before Aggy joined so that isn't anything new. The biggest loser may be Nebraska, as they will start losing on Texas recruits (actually, they already have) and will have to rely on Midwest recruits. All you need is the right coach and you can rely on nothing but Texas recruits (refer to Baylor and Okie jr). WVU's recruiting ranking has also picked up since they joined the Big 12.

Nah, our biggest problems were taking too much from Texas at times:

2002: 2 players (1 juco)
2003: 6 players
2004: 1
2005: 3
2006: 1
2007: 7 (0 starters, ever)
2008: 9 (1 starter, ever)
2009: 8 (3 starters, Rex Burkhead and 2 "fill in starters" and a bunch of overrated slaps)
2010: 5 ( 1 starter)
2011: 4 (2 starters)
2012: 2 (2 starters)
2013: 3 (best RB in the state, and 1 promising OL and a possible bust as the other)
2014: 4 (I guess we'll see)

As you can see, when we hit the state hard, and got a lot of "Texas" talent, that also raised our recruiting rankings, it didn't help much as it was also overrated talent.

Since 2011, we've recruited Texas quite a bit smarter, and better. We don't have as many misses with overrated talent.

 

[Brasky]

Some of the people in this thread I swear to fucking god

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

^^ That is probably my favorite GIF on the whole interweb

 

[Red_Alert]

I don't consider Gibbs a bust. He coached the team during those sanction years. Hell of a job, hell of a job.

They will forever be known as the blake years. Howards 1 year, ok whatever. Blake was terrible. 96 was the worst season ever.

Let me ask you this though..

Is it a coincidence that the greatest 4 year stretch in Nebraska football history (94-97)just so happen to be the worst 4 year stretch in Oklahoma football history?

So if Oklahoma wouldn't have sucked, it would have been Nebraska going (5-6), (4-8), (3-8), (5-5-1), (6-6), etc?

I think not, so it must be coincidence. At the very worst, Nebraska would have some of those Alabama NC's.

You know, the ones with a loss?

 

[Brasky]

I'LL TURN THIS DAMN BUS AROUND. THAT'LL END YOUR PRECIOUS LITTLE FIELD TRIP PRETTY DAMN QUICK

 

[Codaxx]

So if Oklahoma wouldn't have sucked, it would have been Nebraska going (5-6), (4-8), (3-8), (5-5-1), (6-6), etc?

I think not, so it must be coincidence. At the very worst, Nebraska would have some of those Alabama NC's.

You know, the ones with a loss?

It is related. LSU rose as Bama went on Probation. Anytime a reginal power goes down someone is there to pick up the pieces. Doesnt mean history would be rewritten had OU not been exposed, but Nebraska would have had a harder time. Clearly OU and Texas sitting on the balls of their asses was a great opportunity for Nebraska to flex their muscles and to their credit they did

 

[TexasExes98]

I don't consider Gibbs a bust. He coached the team during those sanction years. Hell of a job, hell of a job.

They will forever be known as the blake years. Howards 1 year, ok whatever. Blake was terrible. 96 was the worst season ever.

Let me ask you this though..

Is it a coincidence that the greatest 4 year stretch in Nebraska football history (94-97)just so happen to be the worst 4 year stretch in Oklahoma football history?

That had more to do with Switzer resigning more than anything, since he owned Osborne. If Switzer doesn't resign, Nebraska doesn't go on that run, IMO.....

 

[HuskerinBig10]

Burkhead was a freshman in 2009, when Nebraska was in the Big 12, so that doesn't even count. And seriously naming 3 guys is going to help your argument? Look back at 2007, 2008, and 2009 and compare to now, that pipeline has dried up.

And in the current model they would be playing Texas and OU every year.

If Nebraska would have stayed then the Big 12 would still be at 12 teams, and the Big 12 North would still be there. Back to the original Nebraska would have NEVER played Texas and Oklahoma the same year during the regular season.

I was just pointing out that there are quite a few Texans on the team and there always has been. Do I have to name them all?

Texas has more talented football players than most other states. The players want to go somewhere and play and start. Usually a big time college would be best. Most of them stay in Texas, but a few don't.

Big 8, All Americans from Texas that played at Nebraska that I can come up with off of the top of my head since 1983 to 1997.

Aaron Taylor
Broderick Thomas
Turner Gill
Kelvin Clark
Jake Young
Kenny Walker
Doug Glaser
Travis Hill

From around 1980 or so, Nebraska always had six players from Texas on the team or so. Some years more, some years less, but the average was around six.

1999 6 players
2000 8 players
2003 12 players end of Frank Solich
2007 11 players end of Bill Callahan
2008 17 players Bo Pelini starts
2009 21 players
2010 24 players
2011 23 players
2012 19 players
2013 17 players
2014 14 players

2015 None, unless you include Kevin Dillman from Sweden who is now an American Citizen living in Texas

I suppose you could say it is drying up, but Pelini still has more than Callahan, Solich, and Osborne ever did on their teams. Solich and Callahan recruited for the Big 12 exclusively.

You could also say the recruits from California are drying up. IN 2009 Nebraska had six recruits from California. 2010 there was two. 2011 there was one. 2012 there was two. 2013 there was three. 2014 there was NONE.

 

[Brasky]

That had more to do with Switzer resigning more than anything, since he owned Osborne. If Switzer doesn't resign, Nebraska doesn't go on that run, IMO.....

RA, I'm too tired. Please clean this fools mouth up. I can't even look at this forum anymore. Let's just change the CFB board to "Fuck Everything Nebraska".

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

I'LL TURN THIS DAMN BUS AROUND. THAT'LL END YOUR PRECIOUS LITTLE FIELD TRIP PRETTY DAMN QUICK

Look at how he says "precious".....

Good God that shit is hilarious

 

[HuskerOC]

That had more to do with Switzer resigning more than anything, since he owned Osborne. If Switzer doesn't resign, Nebraska doesn't go on that run, IMO.....

Yep, and if it wasn't for Switzer, Fred Akers would have gone on an incredible run for Texas that we'd still be talking about today.

Lets see, Switzer retires in 1989, Colorado wins a National Championship in 1990 and yet Nebraska is the biggest benefactor after beating 2 SEC champs in title games and Miami in their own backyard?

Yep. I think we got it. Thanks for the education as always TE98.

 

[Red_Alert]

It is related. LSU rose as Bama went on Probation. Anytime a reginal power goes down someone is there to pick up the pieces. Doesnt mean history would be rewritten had OU not been exposed, but Nebraska would have had a harder time. Clearly OU and Texas sitting on the balls of their asses was a great opportunity for Nebraska to flex their muscles and to their credit they did

WTF does Texas have to do with it?

I'll say it again. I'll put Nebraska's worst years in half a century up against any other blue-bloods down cycles. Nebraska has fared rather well.
12 of 16 down years with either 9, 10, 11, or 12 wins. Only two without a bowl. Having to change conferences to a completely different style of football along the way. The Big 10 teams only had to adjust to 1 new team. Nebraska has had to adjust to 11.