Is Brady now the All-Time Greatest QB?

[Groo]

Cool Barry took SF to 6 World Series and won 4

He's no Big Pappi

 

[Groo]

Joe Montana? 4 time SB winner?****

0. The amount of Super Bowl loses Joe has under his belt.

 

[TxHeat]

Tom Brady's explanation for one of the Super Bowl's biggest plays is a good example of how he beat Seattle - Yahoo Finance

Very good article which bears out what was said after the game amidst the criticism for his short passing. He took what the defense gave him.

 

[HammerDown]

Is Brady the best QB? In the same way that Bobby Bonds is the best baseball player.

Reason? Logic? Yeah, no need for those in this thread.

 

[RobBase]

Lynch doesn't even get a chance to not score if not for that ridiculous circus catch, but no one talks about what if that ball isn't caught.

That's football. If the Giants and Hawks don't make 3 combined miracle catches, Brady is easily 5-0.

 

[Fencer]

If the Giants and Hawks don't make 3 combined miracle catches, Brady is easily 5-0.

Not so easily.

6-0, however ...

 

[TxHeat]

Lynch doesn't even get a chance to not score if not for that ridiculous circus catch, but no one talks about what if that ball isn't caught.

That's football. If the Giants and Hawks don't make 3 combined miracle catches, Brady is easily 5-0.

Just Giants and two plays (Tyree and Manningham).

 

[DenBronc]

Hey a Manning fan siting! Sorry bro, he's officially out of the debate!

Well, bro, if this is about who won the most titles, Terry Bradshaw should also be talked about. Heck, maybe even Bart Starr as well (he has one more World Title than Brady or Montana, but I know that modern fans don't have any respect for World Championships before the SB).

Tom may be the luckiest QB all-time (as that article I posted shows), but he's not the best. Neither is Montana. They just benefitted from being in the right system. I would take Elway over them. He carried two teams in the 80's on his back in spite of his coach to the Super Bowl.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Well, bro, if this is about who won the most titles, Terry Bradshaw should also be talked about. Heck, maybe even Bart Starr as well (he has one more World Title than Brady or Montana, but I know that modern fans don't have any respect for World Championships before the SB).

Tom may be the luckiest QB all-time (as that article I posted shows), but he's not the best. Neither is Montana. They just benefitted from being in the right system. I would take Elway over them. He carried two teams in the 80's on his back in spite of his coach to the Super Bowl.

Montana's and Brady's no#s are way better than Elway across the board, regardless of teams or systems. Elway is a top 5 guy imo and no#5 but never mentioned in the GOAT discussion

 

[TxHeat]

Well, bro, if this is about who won the most titles, Terry Bradshaw should also be talked about. Heck, maybe even Bart Starr as well (he has one more World Title than Brady or Montana, but I know that modern fans don't have any respect for World Championships before the SB).

Tom may be the luckiest QB all-time (as that article I posted shows), but he's not the best. Neither is Montana. They just benefitted from being in the right system. I would take Elway over them. He carried two teams in the 80's on his back in spite of his coach to the Super Bowl.

Yet, unlike these and other great QB's Brady has not played with any HOF'ers. Moss will be the one exception when his time comes but those years did not turn into a Championship.

 

[Bunkamania]

So, let's get this straight. None of these guys are the best because...

Montana - Too many great players on his team.
Brady - Too lucky.
Marino - Threw too often (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th & 5th Down).
Elway - Couldn't get it down without Terrell Davis
Bradshaw - Played on a team, like Montana, with too much talent. Allegations of excessive steroid use as well?
Aikman - Average QB on a great team.

Who else am I missing and which excuses did I leave off?

 

[TxHeat]

So, let's get this straight. None of these guys are the best because...

Montana - Too many great players on his team.
Brady - Too lucky.
Marino - Threw too often (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th & 5th Down).
Elway - Couldn't get it down without Terrell Davis
Bradshaw - Played on a team, like Montana, with too much talent. Allegations of excessive steroid use as well?
Aikman - Average QB on a great team.

Who else am I missing and which excuses did I leave off?

That about sums it up.

don't forget Staubach. He played with lots of talent on both sides of the ball as well.

 

[sonnyblack65]

So, let's get this straight. None of these guys are the best because...

Montana - Too many great players on his team.
Brady - Too lucky.
Marino - Threw too often (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th & 5th Down).
Elway - Couldn't get it down without Terrell Davis
Bradshaw - Played on a team, like Montana, with too much talent. Allegations of excessive steroid use as well?
Aikman - Average QB on a great team.

Who else am I missing and which excuses did I leave off?

Your right about Bradshaw. Everyone thinks of Steel Curtain, but they had quite a few HOFers on offense. And Brady lucky once and unlucky twice

 

[Bunkamania]

I can't believe I forgot this guy...

Peyton Manning - Chokes in the playoffs.

 

[PatsFan2003]

So, let's get this straight. None of these guys are the best because...

Montana - Too many great players on his team.
Brady - Too lucky.
Marino - Threw too often (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th & 5th Down).
Elway - Couldn't get it down without Terrell Davis
Bradshaw - Played on a team, like Montana, with too much talent. Allegations of excessive steroid use as well?
Aikman - Average QB on a great team.

Who else am I missing and which excuses did I leave off?

Johnny Unitas... Uh yeah, he played a long time ago didn't he?
Otto Graham... Who?

 

[HammerDown]

Sonny, honest question.

Will Tom Brady be benched before the end of next season? Yes or No.

 

[Fencer]

Sonny, honest question.

Will Tom Brady be benched before the end of next season? Yes or No.

Equally honest question -- are you posting from a psych ward?

 

[HammerDown]

Equally honest question -- are you posting from a psych ward?

Right down the hall from you in the geriatric ward, ya old geezer.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Sonny, honest question.

Will Tom Brady be benched before the end of next season? Yes or No.

I think so ,when they go 16-0, they will let Garappolo play in 4th quarter of last game

 

[TxHeat]

Sonny, honest question.

Will Tom Brady be benched before the end of next season? Yes or No.

Benched..NO.

But when they start piling up their blow away wins they need to get Garrapolo in.

Can't wait for that TN-NE showdown next season.