Is Baker Mayfield a Top 10 QB

[Wamu]

Even if he never takes another snap, he is a SB winning QB, not man can say that. BTW did you know that Minny beat Bama once?

No shit Minnesota beat Bama once? I bet you didn't know that Minnesota's football history is just as rich as Notre Dame's.

 

[dtgold88]

Who? Who are you referring to? Can you be more specific as to who you are referring to and what your argument is for them to be over Wentz at 15?

I'll take the one I know most about....Baker.

Had arguably the worst coach ever in 2019. In 2020 he learned a new system (as he had done every year) with no real off season, no preseason games and also a number of guys missing during the season.

Every season other than with Freddie he exceeded expectations....going back to Oklahoma.

 

[dtgold88]

I can't argue with you on hypotheticals if you don't even have anyone in specific you are talking about. You're posting from the standpoint of an agenda other than an established opinion based on the results of the list.


Baker is not better than Wentz and this season will show that. Bakers has by far a better team that he plays on but as far as individual success at the QB position Wentz will outperform Baker this season.

I've given you a number os issues Baker has had to deal with that you seem to ignore. Guess we'll see if you are able to be consistent.

 

[dtgold88]

He got benched but he didn't get shipped out of town. He was demanding a trade. Eagles fired Doug Pederson to try to appease Wentz but he wanted Roseman gone too which they weren't going to do so they went along with his trade demands.

Wentz is ranked 15 and it isn't based on just what he did 4 years ago in 2017. 15 by the way isn't that high of a spot.

He wanted a trade because he was benched.

 

[Wamu]

I'll take the one I know most about....Baker.

Had arguably the worst coach ever in 2019. In 2020 he learned a new system (as he had done every year) with no real off season, no preseason games and also a number of guys missing during the season.

Every season other than with Freddie he exceeded expectations....going back to Oklahoma.

There's no arguably about it. Hue's 3-36-1 record with the Browns is the worst by a coach with one team in league history.

 

[dtgold88]

There's no arguably about it. Hue's 3-36-1 record with the Browns is the worst by a coach with one team in league history.

Yep....and if I had to have either him or Freddie "lead" this team I'm taking Hue. No question.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

No... the pick was ridiculously stupid (and I'll stand by that) and IF the Browns give him insane QB money and his surrounding cast (which is exceptional might I add) crumbles the Browns will be back in no playoff status.

 

[dtgold88]

No... the pick was ridiculously stupid (and I'll stand by that) and IF the Browns give him insane QB money and his surrounding cast (which is exceptional might I add) crumbles the Browns will be back in no playoff status.

ok

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

ok

Oh calm yourself @dtgold88 ..... Just because I loathe Mayfraud doesn't mean I don't wish a nice Sunday upon you.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

Baker - who you don't seem to give benefit of doubt for anything played a playoff game without 2 starters on the O-line (LT included) AND their replacements. O-line coach and Asst. coach as well as HC also not there. #1 WR was gone. Moved the ball up and down the field on a solid D.

Baker is a top 15 QB because he moved the ball in a losing effort in one game against the Chiefs?

What?

 

[RememberTheKoy]

I'll take the one I know most about....Baker.

Had arguably the worst coach ever in 2019. In 2020 he learned a new system (as he had done every year) with no real off season, no preseason games and also a number of guys missing during the season.

Every season other than with Freddie he exceeded expectations....going back to Oklahoma.

Baker only has 6 less interceptions than Wentz while also having 40 less TD passes.

There is no argument for anything that Baker has done over the course of his career to put him over Wentz. The only thing that could possibly make Baker a better QB than Wentz is if last season from Wentz is the norm going forward but it isn't looking like that is the case thus far this season.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

I've given you a number os issues Baker has had to deal with that you seem to ignore. Guess we'll see if you are able to be consistent.

Wentz has had to deal with oline issues as well. 2019 the entire offense around him was getting injured including his offensive line. He put up a season better than any that Baker has in his career.

 

[Wamu]

Oh calm yourself @dtgold88 ..... Just because I loathe Mayfraud doesn't mean I don't wish a nice Sunday upon you.

Why do you loathe Mayfield, is it because he has more commercials than Wilson?

 

[Wamu]

Baker is a top 15 QB because he moved the ball in a losing effort in one game against the Chiefs?

What?

Mayfield has won a playoff game.

Wentz hasn't.


What?

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Why do you loathe Mayfield, is it because he has more commercials than Wilson?

I said he'd be a bust at number 1 overall when the Browns drafted him... thus I am required to hate him.

 

[dtgold88]

Baker is a top 15 QB because he moved the ball in a losing effort in one game against the Chiefs?

What?

Game I was referring to was a playoff game against the Steelers having more working against him than anything Wentz has had to deal with.

 

[dtgold88]

Baker only has 6 less interceptions than Wentz while also having 40 less TD passes.

There is no argument for anything that Baker has done over the course of his career to put him over Wentz. The only thing that could possibly make Baker a better QB than Wentz is if last season from Wentz is the norm going forward but it isn't looking like that is the case thus far this season.

How about last season Baker got better but Wentz regressed.....again?

 

[dtgold88]

Wentz has had to deal with oline issues as well. 2019 the entire offense around him was getting injured including his offensive line. He put up a season better than any that Baker has in his career.

Cool....but Baker didn't use those O-line issues along with many others that game and balled out.

 

[dtgold88]

Oh calm yourself @dtgold88 ..... Just because I loathe Mayfraud doesn't mean I don't wish a nice Sunday upon you.

did replying "ok" really imply I was blowing a gasket to you? FYI, pre 2020 I was not a big fan of Baker either. Having an adult in charge has helped him (on and off field) IMO.

You have a nice Sunday, as well.

 

[tlance]

And we all know Cam has a much better resume with a Heisman, National Championship at a Div 1 school, MVP and won playoff games. Philly is lucky to have had good QB's recently in McNabb and Foles.

And that is the point I was making about Wentz.

Nobody is rating Cam based on who he was when he was taking Carolina to the Super Bowl and winning MVP.

They judge him on who he is today.

As they should.