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I'll say my opinion as a fan has no more value than yours BUT, IMO, the worst thing this team could do going into next season is to have open competition at the QB position. The development of Dak Prescott should be priority one. I don't blame Cousins for apparently wanting to leave Washington cause of their lack of commitment to him. I'd feel the same way IF an end of his career Romo got the job over the clear future of the Cowboys which in my mind, is without question, Dak Prescott.
If Dak was heading into year 4 with the season he just had I'd agree with you. As of right now we all have to agree this will be Daks team 100%, but with just one NFL season under his belt I dont think competition will undermine him, keeping Romo isn't like bringing in a FA vet to compete, it's letting Romo the opportunity to win the job back. As you said we both have our opinions and it doesn't mean mine is better than yours.
 

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The bolded is where you miss the boat. I think I've always been one of the more objective Cowboy fans on this site. Can't remember which game last season, but Lee played poorly, missed thee or four tackles. I posted the next day that was the worse game I'd seen Lee play and it was. Here's the difference, you and the Dez ball washer can't take any criticism of you guy. That much has been more than proven for the last few years. Just look how you dog jarntt over an opinion.

Here's the truth...Lee seldom plays a bad game and is perhaps the most prepared player each week in the entire league. I respect the hell outta that when more than half the players in football play for their next contract. ( This is also why I've come to respect the job Jason Garrett has done here, cause he has added a boat load of players that work their ass off and put team above individual accomplishments.) This why I'm also becoming a huge fan of Prescott. I actually think he gives a rats ass if he throws for 3 TD's and 300 plus yards ( much like Staubach & Aikman) He understands it's his job to just win football games. Much left to see with regards to Dak, but I have liitle dought he's motivated to improve like few others and winning is ALL that matters.

Me dog Jarntt for his opinion. First off he doesn't see my posts or he just doesn't want to discuss anything with me. He sits back and lets others do his arguing for him when it comes to me anyway. Do you not remember the crap he said about Romo after Romo's meritocracy speech. I swear if he would have been in front of me I would have hit him.

As far as taking up for Lee, Dez, Wilcox, Doug Free- it doesn't matter. None of them play Qb for the Dallas Cowboys and they aren't Tony Romo. I think some bit into that apple that media made about Romo and just continued to pile on. I've never seen a player that good take so much shit from fans, media, whatever. Maybe its today's social media
 

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Im gonna steal a line from PDay, but your views on Romo are in the posts.
Now I give you, you are more level headed than the WFRYE's but you always had a dislike for Romo as the Cowboys QB.
No, in your eyes my views on Romo were the criticism you and others could never accept that I said but it was all true. Look at this thread. Any compliment is ignored and only the "bad" is seen. Read what I worte. I said he could still be a top QB if healthy even at his age. I always liked Romo and always will. But, he was always more reckless and careless than other top QBs and as smart as he is he never learned to let the play go and live to see another down. Dak in year one showed this ability and that is why he is better. The plays you don't make are often more important than the ones you do. Sorry, you guys can pretend all you want but there is NO CHANCE this team was going to sit a player they thought gave them a better chance to win. Romo is almost 40 for Christ sake and hasn't played much since 2014. It's Garrett's call and he damn well has proven he doesn't give a shit what the media thinks.
 

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No, in your eyes my views on Romo were the criticism you and others could never accept that I said but it was all true. Look at this thread. Any compliment is ignored and only the "bad" is seen. Read what I worte. I said he could still be a top QB if healthy even at his age. I always liked Romo and always will. But, he was always more reckless and careless than other top QBs and as smart as he is he never learned to let the play go and live to see another down. Dak in year one showed this ability and that is why he is better. The plays you don't make are often more important than the ones you do. Sorry, you guys can pretend all you want but there is NO CHANCE this team was going to sit a player they thought gave them a better chance to win. Romo is almost 40 for Christ sake and hasn't played much since 2014. It's Garrett's call and he damn well has proven he doesn't give a shit what the media thinks.


You really don't have a clue.
 

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Jerry Jones Says “No” Decision Yet Regarding Romo’s Future in Dallas

DALLAS – One of the last people to walk the “Blue Carpet” for Saturday night’s 25-year reunion of the 1992 Super Bowl team, owner/GM Jerry Jones was needed on the stage as the celebratory dinner was about to start.

Yet, he was having too much fun talking about the memories and the players and even his somewhat rocky-relationship with former coach Jimmy Johnson, who was also in attendance.

But there was one topic that got Jones to move along, and that was the expected Tony Romo question.

Jones certainly didn’t want to upstage the charity event that brought so many familiar faces back to Dallas for one night. But he also said there is no update on the Romo front.

When asked if he has spoken to Romo about his situation and/or if a decision has been made, Jones was quick and blunt.

“No … no” he said as he politely ended his media session and walked towards the reception area.

If the Cowboys have made a decision, Jones wasn’t about to reveal those plans here Saturday night at Gilley’s for this event.

While Jerry Jones chose not to talk about Romo, his former coach didn’t mind.

Johnson, a studio analyst for Fox, says he agreed with the decision to keep Dak Prescott as the starter even when Romo returned, but did say the veteran has plenty left in the tank.

“I’m confident Tony Romo can win games in this league,” Johnson said. “He’s still a really good quarterback. So wherever he goes, I think he’s very capable of winning.”

Hall of Famer Roger Staubach agreed, stating both quarterbacks are worthy of the starting.

“I think Dak is ready to take over and lead this team,” Staubach said. “But I also think Tony can as well. They’re both really good quarterbacks. They’ve got some great players around them, too.”

Romo is scheduled to count nearly $25 million against the 2017 salary cap, the largest figure for any quarterback in the NFL.

The Cowboys will likely try and entertain trade offers from other teams. If he is traded, or simply released before June 1, the Cowboys will save $5.1 million against the cap.

If they release Romo and designate him as a post-June 1 cut, he would only count $10.7 million this year and $8.9 million next year. However, none of that would come off the Cowboys’ cap until June 2, so they would have to carry his near-$25 million cap charge until then, despite free agency starting on March 9.

Jerry Jones Says “No” Decision Yet Regarding Romo’s Future in Dallas
 

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Yep I heard last night was a huge ass kissing fest.
 

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I think more of the story will get out once we start losing players in FA. I'm sure 83 will have plenty to say about it. Players love being songbirds
 

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No, in your eyes my views on Romo were the criticism you and others could never accept that I said but it was all true. Look at this thread. Any compliment is ignored and only the "bad" is seen. Read what I worte. I said he could still be a top QB if healthy even at his age. I always liked Romo and always will. But, he was always more reckless and careless than other top QBs and as smart as he is he never learned to let the play go and live to see another down. Dak in year one showed this ability and that is why he is better. The plays you don't make are often more important than the ones you do. Sorry, you guys can pretend all you want but there is NO CHANCE this team was going to sit a player they thought gave them a better chance to win. Romo is almost 40 for Christ sake and hasn't played much since 2014. It's Garrett's call and he damn well has proven he doesn't give a shit what the media thinks.

I am not sure how accurate that really is jarntt.

In 2014 He threw for 34 TD and 9 INTs. Top tier QBs that year:

Brees 33 and 17
Ben was 32 and 9
Luck was 40 and 16
Manning 39 and 15
Ryan 28 and 14
other Manning 30 and 14
Rogers 38 and 5
Brady was 33 and 9

I could keep going on but the point is you are making a case for something here that don't exist. He is a damn good QB, up there with the rest of them.

Dak is not way better as you say. Now he could end up way better and I think he has more upside to his play but that is down the road, hopefully this year.
 

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One year? Seriously? You are Correct, in 2014 he was not as reckless and careless as he was throughout his career. But obviously you are cherry picking. TD/Int ratio is not even what I was referring to and judging a long term vet on one year is ridiculous. I've said a million times I go by my eyes more than the stats. A dumb play is a dumb play whether it works out or not and sometimes a play has a negative result but WAS the right move. It's the sacks when we are in FG range that take us out, it was holding the ball way too long when just throwing it away was the obvious move, it's the throws that didn't need to be made where he forced something, the sideline throws that were very nearly "pick 6's" even if they were not, it was audibiling out of running plays over and over, the throwing a pick or near pick in the end zone on an early down. If you don't think Romo was a gunslinger you didn't watch him. And AGAIN, I never said he wasn't a good QB. He was a very good QB, he was a great QB and probably top 5 many seasons. I say that over and over and over. that doesn't mean he doesn't have negatives too. There were many seasons where we needed that type of play and benefited from it, but there were others where we didn't need those risks. That post was in response to that fact that the positive I said was always ignored and you pretty much proved that point. If you can't discuss the negatives of your favorite players you aren't being objective. I love Byron Jones, but he got beaten for TDs inside the 5 on a few plays he shouldn't have last year. I love Sean Lee and have said for years he has All Pro talent but he had too many seasons where he couldn't stay on the field. It's OK to see both sides of things:noidea:

On the who is better comment. As we sit here today going into the 2017 season Dak is way better. He likely won't be better than Romo for his career, or maybe he will, but in the present he is and that is what I am referring to. Throw Romo's contract on Dak and you think we have trouble getting an absurdly huge haul of draft picks back? Heck, make it a one year deal so age doesn't matter and the result will be the same. Many assume Romo will be cut and you think he is as good as Dak? QB is by a mile the most important position in the NFL and you think the team would cut a better QB or not play him in the biggest game we have had in years? Sorry, but you guys look at Romo today and you see the guy from a few years ago not the guy that can't stay on the field, is 37 years old and has a huge back problem. That's all part of the picture and part of why Dak is better.
 

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One year? Seriously? You are Correct, in 2014 he was not as reckless and careless as he was throughout his career. But obviously you are cherry picking. TD/Int ratio is not even what I was referring to and judging a long term vet on one year is ridiculous. I've said a million times I go by my eyes more than the stats. A dumb play is a dumb play whether it works out or not and sometimes a play has a negative result but WAS the right move. It's the sacks when we are in FG range that take us out, it was holding the ball way too long when just throwing it away was the obvious move, it's the throws that didn't need to be made where he forced something, the sideline throws that were very nearly "pick 6's" even if they were not, it was audibiling out of running plays over and over, the throwing a pick or near pick in the end zone on an early down. If you don't think Romo was a gunslinger you didn't watch him. And AGAIN, I never said he wasn't a good QB. He was a very good QB, he was a great QB and probably top 5 many seasons. I say that over and over and over. that doesn't mean he doesn't have negatives too. There were many seasons where we needed that type of play and benefited from it, but there were others where we didn't need those risks. That post was in response to that fact that the positive I said was always ignored and you pretty much proved that point. If you can't discuss the negatives of your favorite players you aren't being objective. I love Byron Jones, but he got beaten for TDs inside the 5 on a few plays he shouldn't have last year. I love Sean Lee and have said for years he has All Pro talent but he had too many seasons where he couldn't stay on the field. It's OK to see both sides of things:noidea:

On the who is better comment. As we sit here today going into the 2017 season Dak is way better. He likely won't be better than Romo for his career, or maybe he will, but in the present he is and that is what I am referring to. Throw Romo's contract on Dak and you think we have trouble getting an absurdly huge haul of draft picks back? Heck, make it a one year deal so age doesn't matter and the result will be the same. Many assume Romo will be cut and you think he is as good as Dak? QB is by a mile the most important position in the NFL and you think the team would cut a better QB or not play him in the biggest game we have had in years? Sorry, but you guys look at Romo today and you see the guy from a few years ago not the guy that can't stay on the field, is 37 years old and has a huge back problem. That's all part of the picture and part of why Dak is better.
One Year? He had much more than one year with numbers close to what tree stated. But I get it he "Chokes" too often.
 

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One Year? He had much more than one year with numbers close to what tree stated. But I get it he "Chokes" too often.
Sigh....Yes. You are correct. But, I am not the one who quoted one years stats in an attempt to dispute a point. He is:noidea:
 

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One year? Seriously? You are Correct, in 2014 he was not as reckless and careless as he was throughout his career. But obviously you are cherry picking. TD/Int ratio is not even what I was referring to and judging a long term vet on one year is ridiculous. I've said a million times I go by my eyes more than the stats. A dumb play is a dumb play whether it works out or not and sometimes a play has a negative result but WAS the right move. It's the sacks when we are in FG range that take us out, it was holding the ball way too long when just throwing it away was the obvious move, it's the throws that didn't need to be made where he forced something, the sideline throws that were very nearly "pick 6's" even if they were not, it was audibiling out of running plays over and over, the throwing a pick or near pick in the end zone on an early down. If you don't think Romo was a gunslinger you didn't watch him. And AGAIN, I never said he wasn't a good QB. He was a very good QB, he was a great QB and probably top 5 many seasons. I say that over and over and over. that doesn't mean he doesn't have negatives too. There were many seasons where we needed that type of play and benefited from it, but there were others where we didn't need those risks. That post was in response to that fact that the positive I said was always ignored and you pretty much proved that point. If you can't discuss the negatives of your favorite players you aren't being objective. I love Byron Jones, but he got beaten for TDs inside the 5 on a few plays he shouldn't have last year. I love Sean Lee and have said for years he has All Pro talent but he had too many seasons where he couldn't stay on the field. It's OK to see both sides of things:noidea:

On the who is better comment. As we sit here today going into the 2017 season Dak is way better. He likely won't be better than Romo for his career, or maybe he will, but in the present he is and that is what I am referring to. Throw Romo's contract on Dak and you think we have trouble getting an absurdly huge haul of draft picks back? Heck, make it a one year deal so age doesn't matter and the result will be the same. Many assume Romo will be cut and you think he is as good as Dak? QB is by a mile the most important position in the NFL and you think the team would cut a better QB or not play him in the biggest game we have had in years? Sorry, but you guys look at Romo today and you see the guy from a few years ago not the guy that can't stay on the field, is 37 years old and has a huge back problem. That's all part of the picture and part of why Dak is better.

I agree 100%. Dak is better today and for Dallas's future. Too many questionable issues with Romo at this time.
 

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gotta roll with Dak.
Doesn't matter to me who's the best.
Winning a championship is all that matters and I think that is best accomplished with Prescott
 

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I think a part of the problem always was that the team had been "built for Romo"
Id much prefer a team that was built to punch you in the mouth( on D and O).
I'm all in on the youth movement.
 

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You guys have it all figured out.
 

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I think a part of the problem always was that the team had been "built for Romo"
Id much prefer a team that was built to punch you in the mouth( on D and O).
I'm all in on the youth movement.
I think we are now built to punch you in the mouth (at least offensively) and were in 2014 too. Coincidence those were our two best recent seasons?
 

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Anyone else hear a proposed 3 way trade between Dallas, SF and Washington with Romo landing in DC and KC landing in SF? Sounds like some Playstation mess...
 

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Anyone else hear a proposed 3 way trade between Dallas, SF and Washington with Romo landing in DC and KC landing in SF? Sounds like some Playstation mess...

Possible Three-Team Trade Between Redskins, 49ers & Cowboys With Kirk Cousins To SF & Tony Romo To WAS?
Nate Bouda 2 hours ago 49ers, Cowboys, Redskins 0 Comments


Update:

Clarence Hill reports that the Cowboys have not been contacted about a potential three-team trade involving Tony Romo being sent to the Redskins. According to Hill, he was given a quick response of “no” when he asked about the report.

  • Mike Jones is told that the Redskins aren’t interested in Romo and would still like to work out a deal with Kirk Cousins. Jones adds that the only legitimate backup plan they have right now at quarterback is Colt McCoy.
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Ian Rapoport of NFL Media, citing sources informed of the potential talks, reports that the Redskins, 49ers and Cowboys could discuss a three-team trade involving QB Kirk Cousins and QB Tony Romo at some point in the near future.

According to Rapoport, the trade would send Cousins to the 49ers, Romo to the Redskins and draft-pick compensation, including the No. 2 overall pick to the Cowboys.

Rapoport adds that the proposed trade is still in the “preliminary” stages and no serious negotiations have taken place.

This is a really surprising report, to say the least. Three-team trades rarely take place in the NFL, especially when two teams are division rivals.

Washington and representatives for Cousins met this week to discuss a long-term extension, but the two sides are reportedly still a good distance apart. In fact, Master Tesfatsion reported that the Redskins offered Cousins $20 million per year, which is short of the $24 million he’ll make under the franchise tag this year.

The 49ers are clearly the team to watch for Cousins whether it’s a trade this year or as a potential landing spot as a free agent in 2018.

The Redskins officially placed the exclusive franchise tag on Cousins Tuesday. The exclusive tag prevents other teams from negotiating with him during free agency, but the Redskins are still fully able to trade him to another team and give him permission to speak to a team about a long-term extension.

Cousins, 28, is a former fourth-round pick of the Redskins back in 2012. He played out the final year of his four-year, $2,572,688 rookie contract that included a $472,688 signing bonus when Washington elected to use the franchise tag on Cousins that paid him $19.953 million fully guaranteed for the 2016 season.

In 2016, Cousins has appeared in all 16 games and thrown for 4,917 yards while completing 67 percent of his passes to go along with 25 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. Pro Football Focus has him rated as the No. 8 quarterback out of 36 qualifying players.

Romo, 36, is entering the fourth year of his seven-year, $119.5 million contract that included $55 million guaranteed. He stands to make base salaries of $14 million (2017), $19.5 million (2018) and $20.5 million (2019).

According to OverTheCap.com, releasing or trading Romo would free up $5.1 million in available cap space while creating a staggering $19.6 million in dead money, which figures to be a huge consideration for the Cowboys.

The Cowboys could improve those figures to $14 million of cap savings and $10.7 million of dead money if they were to designate him as a post-June 1 release.

In 2016, Romo appeared in one game and completed three of four passing attempts for 29 yards and a touchdown for the Cowboys.


Would be interesting, w Dallas getting the #2 overall pick, but would Washington want Romo?
 
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