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Im sorry Mussina isnt deserving of HOF.

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How do you figure? Mussina was universally reviled by opponents and his own teammates during his career and being a ginormous dooshbag didn't stop his "never dominant, asshole self" from getting in.

He was a silent douchebag. Really, if you are talking about genuine people, I'd rather hang out with Curt and talk about anything but politics.

Moose was an elitist, prick but he didn't make it quite as obvious. Zero personality gets you in before a guy with a lot of (controversial/asshole) opinions.
 

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He's down the list imo among his contemporaries.


Could do it, but he has his work cut out for him.
How far down the list? Among active pitchers I’d only put him behind Kershaw, Scherzer...and maybe CC. Unless he implodes I think he’s a lock. He’ll most likely have 220+ wins, 3000 strikeouts, an ERA+ in the 120s, a WAR in the 70s, and a CY Young.
 

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How far down the list? Among active pitchers I’d only put him behind Kershaw, Scherzer...and maybe CC. Unless he implodes I think he’s a lock. He’ll most likely have 220+ wins, 3000 strikeouts, an ERA+ in the 120s, a WAR in the 70s, and a CY Young.
And Verlander.
 

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How far down the list? Among active pitchers I’d only put him behind Kershaw, Scherzer...and maybe CC. Unless he implodes I think he’s a lock. He’ll most likely have 220+ wins, 3000 strikeouts, an ERA+ in the 120s, a WAR in the 70s, and a CY Young.
Those 3, JV, Hamels, MadBum, Felix.


Two great seasons from Greinke. He has longevity on his side, he could do it. But he's a dewsh, that won't help.
 

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Ok, explain it to me then. I laid out what he could do. He isn't going to be Mussina, because he isn't that much of a workhorse, but that's mostly generational.

I'm not smart, but I'm not an idiot.
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I'm surprised Mussina isn't wearing an Orioles hate on his plaque. He has the lame no logo hat.
 

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He was a silent douchebag. Really, if you are talking about genuine people, I'd rather hang out with Curt and talk about anything but politics.

Moose was an elitist, prick but he didn't make it quite as obvious. Zero personality gets you in before a guy with a lot of (controversial/asshole) opinions.

Correction. It wasn’t talking about politics.

It was about being a conservative speaking about politics (quite loudly)
 

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Those 3, JV, Hamels, MadBum, Felix.


Two great seasons from Greinke. He has longevity on his side, he could do it. But he's a dewsh, that won't help.
That glazed over bastard will be a 7th ballot HoFer. Book it!
 

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Those 3, JV, Hamels, MadBum, Felix.


Two great seasons from Greinke. He has longevity on his side, he could do it. But he's a dewsh, that won't help.

Is greinke a douche?

He’s a dork with anxiety issues.
 

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Those 3, JV, Hamels, MadBum, Felix.


Two great seasons from Greinke. He has longevity on his side, he could do it. But he's a dewsh, that won't help.
I admittedly forgot Verlander, but I’d put Grienke ahead of everyone else you named. Bumgarner’s got the best chance to catch him due to his age, but he’s got to shake the injury bug.
 

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I haven't been in Indiana in days.
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Greinke
  1. Justin Verlander (940.0)
  2. Jimmy Key (938.7)
  3. Felix Hernandez (926.1)
  4. Roy Halladay (923.8) *
  5. Dwight Gooden (923.1)
  6. Cole Hamels (916.6)
  7. David Cone (912.8)
  8. Dave McNally (910.0)
  9. Bret Saberhagen (908.6)
  10. Roy Oswalt (906.6)
Mussina

Similar Pitchers
  1. Andy Pettitte (912.9)
  2. CC Sabathia (912.5)
  3. Juan Marichal (866.0) *
  4. Bartolo Colon (865.7)
  5. David Wells (863.0)
  6. Curt Schilling (860.2)
  7. Tim Hudson (857.6)
  8. Jim Palmer (855.6) *
  9. Carl Hubbell (855.4) *
  10. Kevin Brown (844.9)
Greinke > Mussina
*** > *
 

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Correction. It wasn’t talking about politics.

It was about being a conservative speaking about politics (quite loudly)

Sorry Q, there is a big difference between a conservative and a wing nut.

He is such a raving prick that he can't even hold a media job. Curt and his sock would have been fired 2 years earlier if he hadn't got cancer.

The man has no redeeming qualities outside of his athletic ability. He failed in gaming. He failed in media. He is a complete loon with his political views. He really is a giant piece of shit.
 
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