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[ChrisperJ10]

I read this...

Insidehoops.com

"Tim Duncan Is One Of The Most Overrated Players Of All-Time"

As a lifelong Spurs fan, I think Tim Duncan is one of the most overrated players in NBA history. He’s probably top 10 in terms of accomplishments, but in terms of 5-7 year prime/peak span, I don’t think he was ever better than Ewing, Hakeem, or Robinson – all of whom I think were light years better than him. They all split All-NBA and All-Defensive selections during the primes of their respective careers.

I never really watched Ewing too closely, but Robinson was literally better than Duncan at everything. He was bigger, stronger, and faster. He was way quicker and had more offensive power. On defense, he was comparable to Wilt. Hakeem abused Ewing, Shaq, and Robinson in their primes. I don’t think I need to say anymore.

Even in his own generation, he was neck and neck with Garnett, yet we don't hear anyone placing KG top 10. I’m hesitant to compare him to Dirk since their games are different (and when you factor in the defense, I think you have to give the nod to Duncan). I just don’t want to place too much emphasis on team accomplishments when ranking players (although titles are important).

By the same token, I don’t need Lebron to win 5 titles to know that he’s better than Kobe at every asset of the game. His 5th best season rivals Kobe’s best season and that’s being generous. Has anyone ever talked about Kobe like they’ve talked about Lebron these past few years, vehemently declaring him the greatest player in the world? No.

The slippery slope here is that “hey, maybe it’s not the surrounding cast, but rather, Duncan was just that good”. This is not to say that I don’t think he’s not a top ten player because it’s hard to find 10 more players with a better resume than he do

 

[HammerDown]

Who wrote this? They need a permaban now.

 

[fordman84]

Was that on this site, or another one that you wanted to join?

 

[ChrisperJ10]

My bad Hammer. I forgot to put the website. Some comedian from Insidehoops.com

 

[fordman84]

My bad Hammer. I forgot to put the website. Some comedian from Insidehoops.com

ah ok. Thought someone here posted that. Obvious troll would be obvious

 

[JDM]

If KG had been provided some talent to work with he very well could have been in a reasonable discussion as one of the better players.

Duncan is absolutely not overrated though IMO; that post is absolute drivel.

Also, if lebron doesn't win at least 3-4, his legacy takes a huge hit.

 

[BOTSLAYER]

Like Big O's does.

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

Since the arrival of Duncan:

16 consecutive 50 win equivalents (37-13 would have easily won 50)
14 consecutive true 50 win seasons
16 consecutive 1st or 2nd place division finishes
8 conference finals
5 NBA Finals
4 World Championships
Rookie of the Year
2 NBA MVPS
3 NBA Finals
15 time allstar
14 time all NBA
14 time all NBA defense
9 times top 5 in MVP
14 times top 10 in MVP
Zero trade demands
Zero arrests
Zero drunken idiocy
Zero twitter rants
Zero coaches fired

Played with exactly one player on his teams drafted in the top 10 besides himself.

Yeah, that happened by accident and good fortune.

Over-rated Timmy had nothing to do with it.

 

[Peter Gozintite]

The more article like this is see, the more i think sports writers were the first trolls.

 

[RobToxin]

The more article like this is see, the more i think sports writers were the first trolls.

Oh yes, long before there was an internet, there were troll sports writers.

You should read a couple of Skip Clueless....err....Bayless' books on the Dallas Cowboys. He wrote a couple of them in the 90s. Just straight up starts making up shit just to sell a book.

 

[Sman2011]

Since the arrival of Duncan:

16 consecutive 50 win equivalents (37-13 would have easily won 50)
14 consecutive true 50 win seasons
16 consecutive 1st or 2nd place division finishes
8 conference finals
5 NBA Finals
4 World Championships
Rookie of the Year
2 NBA MVPS
3 NBA Finals
15 time allstar
14 time all NBA
14 time all NBA defense
9 times top 5 in MVP
14 times top 10 in MVP
Zero trade demands
Zero arrests
Zero drunken idiocy
Zero twitter rants
Zero coaches fired

Played with exactly one player on his teams drafted in the top 10 besides himself.

Yeah, that happened by accident and good fortune.

Over-rated Timmy had nothing to do with it.

Let me fix it for you Horns. Since the arrival of Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli all of the above happened.

 

[RobToxin]

I could be wrong but I don't think Parker or Ginobli played on the first Spurs' title team.

I certainly don't remember them being there but that was 1999-2000 and I am getting old and memory isn't quite what it used to be.

 

[ChrisperJ10]

Let me fix it for you Horns. Since the arrival of Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli all of the above happened.

Your argument just collapsed on itself. Your saying that without Parker, and Ginobili none of Duncan's accolades would be possible. The same could be said About West, Magic, And Bryant. Or any other player.

Dipshit...

 

[TexasWes]

Let me fix it for you Horns. Since the arrival of Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli all of the above happened.

DAMN!!! Ginobili & Parker must be REALLY great to accomplish the first three (plus assist with RotY) and only have played in the NBA 10 & 11 years respectively.

 

[ChrisperJ10]

DAMN!!! Ginobili & Parker must be REALLY great to accomplish the first three (plus assist with RotY) and only have played in the NBA 10 & 11 years respectively.

 

[Peter Gozintite]

Oh yes, long before there was an internet, there were troll sports writers.

You should read a couple of Skip Clueless....err....Bayless' books on the Dallas Cowboys. He wrote a couple of them in the 90s. Just straight up starts making up shit just to sell a book.

Reading and/or listening to anything Skip related can have horrible mental side effects.

 

[RobToxin]

Reading and/or listening to anything Skip related can have horrible mental side effects.

Well, unless it is him getting his ass handed to him by Mark Cuban. My favorite Bayless moment of all time.

 

[gordontrue]

Well, unless it is him getting his ass handed to him by Mark Cuban. My favorite Bayless moment of all time.

Somehow I never saw this video until this morning. It really is a great moment in first take history.

 

[trojanfan12]

Somehow I never saw this video until this morning. It really is a great moment in first take history.

@Skip getting destroyed by Cuban. That's why I hate when people say "Oh, so and so just didn't play hard or didn't play well." Usually the opponent has something to do with that.

 

[RobToxin]

Somehow I never saw this video until this morning. It really is a great moment in first take history.

I know a lot of people can't stand Cuban. I'm a Mark Cuban fan for this moment and this moment alone.

And just the simple fact that ESPN is willing to pay Bayless to talk sports is enough of a reason for me to have no use or respect for ESPN.