I thought whining about the refs was all pure cope? When did this change?

[lebron23james]

Again, why are missed calls at the end of games so much worse than ones earlier in the game of similar nature? Because you're arguing that everything but the last few minutes of football games are pointless in close games. So by that logic, why not just scrap the 4-quarter game format and go straight to OT type rules, except that both teams get at least 1 possession on offense even if the opening team scrores a TD? You're also assuming that things wouldn't change much in games based on earlier bad calls being made appropriately.


As for letting coaches challenge all plays in the final 2 minutes... don't we already have enough replay reviews to overturn calls as it is? Every scoring play and turnover is automatically reviewed, plus the coaches get at least 2 challenges per game besides those (3 if they win both of their first 2). Those last two minutes can already easily take 15+ minutes in real time depending on just how crazy things get in them, and you want to add to that at the end of both halves despite scoring plays and turnovers already being subject to automatic review? 60 minute NFL games would start taking 4+ hours apiece in a sport that non-football fans already deservedly complain about taking way too long with commercials/reviews/etc. compared to actual in-game action time.

Because the end of the game calls have less time to recover from, thus they are much more important

Don't we have enough reviews to overturn calls? Obviously not, because they clearly got the call wrong. Isn't the point to get the right call? Or no?

 

[GhostOfPoverty]

Because the end of the game calls have less time to recover from, thus they are much more important

Don't we have enough reviews to overturn calls? Obviously not, because they clearly got the call wrong. Isn't the point to get the right call? Or no?

Better yet, let's just get rid of the on-field officials altogether and have some random neckbeard from an internet message board watching the games on TV radio all of their calls in to the NFL to enforce. Included would be instant replay of any coaches' challenges, as well as any and all plays as the neckbeard personally sees fit. How does that sound?

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Calls are missed all game on both sides. With that said missed calls at the end of the game are always more important. If you have 1 missed call at the end of the game and the other team doesn't, that is a huge advantage.

A simple solution would be to let coachs challenge any play in the last 2 minutes. I have a feeling the reason they don't is because they like the endless debate...Kinda like how the college tournament should have 8 teams instead of 4. 8 is obvious, but they want the endless debate about it, instead of fixing it.

I think adding challenges is not a bad idea in general (you're just trying to get the call correct).

The reason I don't think the league will go that route is their financial partner...TV networks...as much money as they are paying, they really want to see these game completed within the allotted airtime. You could argue that 1 or 2 extra challenges are not going to change much and you might be right, but I'm guessing that any proposal that would increase time is not going to be viewed favorably by the networks.

 

[carson]

The NFL is a bitch-league. Nothing but flags, replay, or coaches & players bitching there should've been a flag. No idea what a catch is, the overtime rules are fucking weird, and players are soft.

Don't remember any of this non-stop controversy during the 90's. Thanks to instant replay, (which has gotten carried away), every single play is second guessed.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Huh I don't see Rams fans bitching about the no call face mask when Goff got snagged down in the red zone series prior to this...... Lets see Rams had to kick a FG there when they should have gotten the ball on the goal line with a first down..

Ummmm the Rams won there in lies the difference. However there are still plenty of posts about it, just not the same magnitude.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Things I'd blame the Rams loss on before the no-call PI if I were a Saints fan:

 

[NWPATSFAN]

So, in other words the Saints needed to be bailed out on a pass that had no chance of being completed due to some early contact? Why were the Saints throwing the ball instead of running (and forcing the Rams to use up their time outs)?Should we talk about uncalled facemask and horse collar fouls by the Saints earlier in the game? Had those been called, this situation may have been moot.

Complaining about missed calls always ends up a losing argument. Calls are missed all game long. It wasn't a scoring play and didn't cost your team points. It cost some time on the clock (which the Saints could've been chipping away at by running the ball instead of throwing incomplete passes while already in go-ahead FG range).

*cough cough* @mcnabb7542 take a looksie here's 1 ^^^^^^^^^

 

[NWPATSFAN]

and this was a historically anti-Ram squad...

Hey @mcnabb7542 #2 in two posts. Imagine if they had lost?

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Better yet, let's just get rid of the on-field officials altogether and have some random neckbeard from an internet message board watching the games on TV radio all of their calls in to the NFL to enforce. Included would be instant replay of any coaches' challenges, as well as any and all plays as the neckbeard personally sees fit. How does that sound?

Andrew Luck already has a job. Yet he is available to do most playoff games if needed?

 

[handicappers]

Saints got hosed.

 

[NEhomer]

Did we need a whole new thread for people to be retarded in? Cripes.

Saints got hosed.

Fact.

 

[lebron23james]

The NFL is a bitch-league. Nothing but flags, replay, or coaches & players bitching there should've been a flag. No idea what a catch is, the overtime rules are fucking weird, and players are soft.

Don't remember any of this non-stop controversy during the 90's. Thanks to instant replay, (which has gotten carried away), every single play is second guessed.

Well said, it started with the kneeling

 

[lebron23james]

Better yet, let's just get rid of the on-field officials altogether and have some random neckbeard from an internet message board watching the games on TV radio all of their calls in to the NFL to enforce. Included would be instant replay of any coaches' challenges, as well as any and all plays as the neckbeard personally sees fit. How does that sound?

You mean sacacus?

 

[davnlaguna]

Good teams beat bad calls

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

I feel no sympathy for the saints or their fans. Now you know how cowboys fans feel after a playoff game. Dez caught the fucking ball,but it took the NFL 4 years to admit it.

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

I just watched the play in question for the first time. One can only conclude that the NFL wanted the rams in the superbowl. And then some people wonder WHY there are some that think the NFL IS RIGGED???. My God that was a terrible non call.

 

[The Oldtimer]

So the popular narrative about the no-call seems to be that it costed the Saints the game. This all ignores the fact that the Saints got other favorable calls earlier in the game that could easily have changed the course of the game. It also ignores the fact that the Saints still took the lead to end that possession, their D allowed the Rams to drive for the game-tying FG with less than 2 minutes in regulation, how the Saints and Brees choked in OT whe they got the ball first, and the defense allowing L.A. to drive for the game-winning FG afterwards. It also ignores that the Rams DB was in great position to have made a pass deflection if not an INT on that play had he played the ball rather than rammed the Saints receiver, but they act like he tackled him from behind on a sure TD catch.

This was with the "elite, legendary" QB/HC combo of Drew Brees at home in New Orleans against a 3rd year QB and 2nd year HC in Jared Goff and McVay with a team that was a dumpster fire under Jeff Fisher just 3 seasons ago. This is the same Saints team and fans that told the Vikings to blame their own mistakes for their 2009 NFC championship loss despite several horrible calls/no-calls that went in favor of the Saints on the way to their Superbowl win, and that blaming the refs was just making excuses. But now, we're all supposed to cry a river of salt over 1 no-call for the Saints against L.A., despite the fact that their D allowed 2 more scores and their offense/Brees choked in OT, all after that play?

Yeah, let's blame the refs. Let's just ignore the fact that the Saints blew a 13-point lead in a home NFC championship game and gave up 2 scores plus choked their opening OT drive away on offense after that no-call. Yep, that was the only play of the game that mattered, and they totally got robbed of a Superbowl trip. Some of you have incredibly short memories.


Stay salty.

Great comment!!!!!

 

[The Oldtimer]

I just watched the play in question for the first time. One can only conclude that the NFL wanted the rams in the superbowl. And then some people wonder WHY there are some that think the NFL IS RIGGED???. My God that was a terrible non call.

Did you watch the replay of the no call on Goff getting facemasked in the redzone! If the call would have been made the Rams would have had 1st and goal. Watch the "whole" game, not just one play.

 

[The Oldtimer]

Huh I don't see Rams fans bitching about the no call face mask when Goff got snagged down in the red zone series prior to this...... Lets see Rams had to kick a FG there when they should have gotten the ball on the goal line with a first down..

Good point the non-call facemask on Goff happened on the 2 yard Line. It would have given the Rams a 1st and goal at the one.

 

[Dude]

If is very powerful word.