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Cuz you have no comeback for those texts... Rams fan or not. Cheater is a cheater.
no, because youre just like marshall faulk.
 

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I'll post it again so you can keep ignoring the truth. You know... The truth :L


 

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i'll post it too

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holy

shit

ive never said they didnt. you cant alter a ball after the ref approves it.

So why the 179 threads? They cheated, they got caught, they got punished. It's not like it's going to matter, it's the AFC East. Until the other teams get a QB Brady missing 4 games isn't really going to matter
 

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Do you honestly think that Tom Brady didn't have the balls deflated?

Yes, with one caveat -- if something like the infamous "vigorous rubbing" caused the balls to measure at legal levels pregame with less air in them than other balls do, thus leading to lower-pressure balls during the game, I doubt he minded in the least.

That wouldn't be cheating, although it would be a particularly clever use of the NFL's rulebook.
 

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So why the 179 threads? They cheated, they got caught, they got punished. It's not like it's going to matter, it's the AFC East. Until the other teams get a QB Brady missing 4 games isn't really going to matter
because its a trivial rule violation, and one every team does in some manner. ask the panthers and vikings about illegally heating balls on the sideline.

its a silly rule.
 

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All signs point to the fact that Brady cheated. I get it if you think that the proof presented doesn't "prove it", however based on all the information it's pretty clear. Now the Patriots are trying to explain away some of the texts with some honestly laughable explanations. I also understand if you think that the punishment doesn't fit the crime. So here's the question: Do you honestly think that Tom Brady didn't have the balls deflated?
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Deflect. Compare other cheaters.. :L Another cheating episode where you lost a first rounder. :lol: "BUT EVERYONE IS DOING IT"
honest

if you think the rams...with mcdaniels there...did nothing shady...you sir, have gone full ritard on us.
 

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because its a trivial rule violation, and one every team does in some manner. ask the panthers and vikings about illegally heating balls on the sideline.

its a silly rule.

That's hardly an argument. And part of the punishment is the not turning over Brady's cell phone, they're repeat offenders now and Kraft acted like a fool questioning everyone's integrity. I still think it's going to be reduced a game or two. I think the punishment fits the crime provided the suspension is reduced at least one game.
 

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honest

if you think the rams...with mcdaniels there...did nothing shady...you sir, have gone full ritard on us.



While we went 2-14??? LMAO WTF are talking about Rock? I thought you were better than this.. :L

We couldn't beat our own meat with McDaniels at OC.


Just keep denying, deflecting, and bring up more BS man.
 

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While we went 2-14??? LMAO WTF are talking about Rock? I thought you were better than this.. :L

We couldn't beat our own meat with McDaniels at OC.


Just keep denying, deflecting, and bring up more BS man.
yup

you just had no talent.

its the belichick tree. its why mangini got caught videotaping as well. he learned it from bill. mcdaniels did the same thing in denver.
 

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he did have them deflated...no one takes this seriously because it absolutely shreds peoples cases...

my take...brady DID have these idiots do this...take ref approved (and repumped) balls and deflate them quickly before the game...with no gauge, and no time. ilegal, yes. but the intention wasnt to go below 12.5...

he wanted them at 12.5

they use a needle, no gauge, and puff air out to what they "think" is 12.5. its why i think brady was so adamant that he "doesnt think he cheats". in his mind, he doesnt. he asked for 12.5...and got a wide range because it was done quickly, unscientifically, and by 2 adult teenage girls.

plausible?

yup

possible?

definitely

will people here take it seriously? no.


I want you to answer my question here that has never been answered after asking many times to Patriot fans.

If Brady likes his footballs to be at the 12.5 PSI why in hell would they have been higher than 12.5 when they were handed to the refs for inspection? If they were doing their job they would have had the balls at the 12.5 pressure Brady used all week in practice.

Or did Brady practice with them below the 12.5 PSI and then the ball boy had to inflate them enough to get them approved? But then have to let air out after to please Brady?

In Patriot land there should be no need for a deflator. Only an inflator is needed to get the balls set at 12.5 psi and then add air meaning inflate them on occasion if air seeps out.


 

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I want you to answer my question here that has never been answered after asking many times to Patriot fans.

If Brady likes his footballs to be at the 12.5 PSI why in hell would they have been higher than 12.5 when they were handed to the refs for inspection? If they were doing their job they would have had the balls at the 12.5 pressure Brady used all week in practice.

Or did Brady practice with them below the 12.5 PSI and then the ball boy had to inflate them enough to get them approved? But then have to let air out after to please Brady?

In Patriot land there should be no need for a deflator. Only an inflator is needed to get the balls set at 12.5 psi and then add air meaning inflate them on occasion if air seeps out.
ever occur to you theyre idiots?

did you read the texts?

i think these guys cant tie their own shoes.
 

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did they tho?

that might be the crux of the argument. if you recall, brady was miffed week 12 (jets game) i think (and mentioned in the texts) about the "refs fucking them" with really over inflated balls after inspection. the refs dont do custom PSI...they just pump to a legal range, and say "here ya go".

possible that brady got balls back from the refs at like say, 15 PSI and had these idiots illegally (yes) deflate them back to 12.5 as i said?


The refs would not fill to 15psi with the legal limit being between 12.5 and 13.5 psi

The mention of the pressure being 15psi is BS talk from the ball boy because he was pissed off at Brady bitching all the time so he just threw some words out under stress pretty much telling Brady to fuck off ans stop complaining
 

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The refs would not fill to 15psi with the legal limit being between 12.5 and 13.5 psi

The mention of the pressure being 15psi is BS talk from the ball boy because he was pissed off at Brady bitching all the time so he just threw some words out under stress pretty much telling Brady to fuck off ans stop complaining
you get my point.
semantics.

address my point.

ok, 13.5

go.
 
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