Hawks prioritize Thomas over Sherman

[TobyTyler]

Obviously you don't work in Marketing if this is the kind of ideas you have... I am no expert either but at least I know a little bit about demographics... Buick's target audiences are those from mid 30's and above... Beats target audiences are teens to late 20's... Their product line targets that audiences...These are the ages that can easily identify with Kaep more than the Buick crowd.. Your outrageous statements above shows that you are probably above 45-ish and can't relate to the younger generation... I bet that when you were in your late teens or early 20's, people above 45 can't relate to what you are doing either...

But we were cool. This generation is just pathetic.

 

[FourBeeDen]

Exactly. Manning is a target for the demographic that has money. Beats is for the teens who are broke dick. Sell one Buick and you've got 40 to 50 K. Sell one set of ridiculous looking headphones and you got 20 bucks. The astute businessman will pick Manning to represent his product every time.

You do realize that Beats is a global company while Buick is mainly North America...

 

[sjballer03]

Bullshit

Major Beats: Beats Electronics May Be On Track To Hit $1.4B In 2013 Revenue | Fast Company | Business + Innovation

 

[sjballer03]

Exactly. Manning is a target for the demographic that has money. Beats is for the teens who are broke dick. Sell one Buick and you've got 40 to 50 K. Sell one set of ridiculous looking headphones and you got 20 bucks. The astute businessman will pick Manning to represent his product every time.

Kaepernick has a deal with Jaguar, which is a luxury car company as well.

Here let me show you how well Jaguar is doing as a company:
Jaguar Land Rover Posts Record Sales for 2013 - WSJ.com

Your argument is dead. Kaepernick appeals to the broke dicks and rich people.

 

[MHSL82]

Kaepernick has a deal with Jaguar, which is a luxury car company as well.

Here let me show you how well Jaguar is doing as a company:
Jaguar Land Rover Posts Record Sales for 2013 - WSJ.com

Your argument is dead. Kaepernick appeals to the broke dicks and rich people.

Only broke dicks people can afford Jaguar and Papa John's is for rich people.

 

[yossarian]

The feeling amongst Seattle coaches from what I've read is that they think in many ways Thomas is more of a key to the secondary than Sherman (and we could have drafted Thomas but I think we took Davis instead).
As far as Wilson and endorsements; winning the super bowl will give him national exposure, but Seattle is still pretty isolated up here from the rest of the country so those endorsements may not be rolling in. There's no way Seattle wins the Superbowl without him only because when the offensive line was terrible he avoided the meltdowns, I think he actually was worse at the end of that run when he had his line back but they were contained. And it's true he didn't throw an INT in the playoffs and came through at crucial times, he also fumbled on the opening play against SF, and if Kaep's pass had been a little better believe me more people would be talking about that. The key for Seattle has always been it's defense -- they played perfectly throughout the playoffs just about at the right times and frankly our defense had some real crucial meltdowns. Wilson is the perfect qb for that defense, another defense? Probably not.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

Not a chance in the world Pete Carroll will pay his quarterback that much. Not a chance in the world. he will lock up as much of that defense as he can and when someone leaves he'l make more astute FA acquisitions like he did with Avril and Bennett.

You do realize the Seahawks have a general manager who is primarily in charge or the draft and FA, right? Carroll has some input, but Schneider is the primary decision-maker in terms of additions.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

Beats can't make you money because they appeal to the broke, unemployed crowd. Now Manning, on the other hand, appeals to people who have money. Buick uses Manning to sell expensive cars and makes a lot of money off of him. Thus Manning makes a lot of money. I doubt Kaepernick gets much at all from Beats.

Kaepernick's ridiculous tattoos and surly gangster wannabe attitude are the reason companies can't make money with him. That stuff again appeals to the broke dick crowd who can't buy anything. Did you notice how kaepernick was dressed during his Super Bowl appearances? I think his handlers are finally getting through to him.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/kaepernick-signs-endorsement-deal-jaguar

 

[Crimsoncrew]

But we were cool. This generation is just pathetic.

For someone who is constantly complaining about the state of the country, you're awfully fond of the generation that is actively running us into the ground.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

Anyway, to go back to the initial purpose of the thread, I think Thomas is the right choice. First, as has been noted, he should be a fair bit cheaper. Beyond that, though, Thomas is incredibly important to what the Hawks do on D. He's arguably their most important piece. They have proven they can plug and play the large, aggressive CBs they prefer. The reason they can do that is because Thomas' elite range allows them to play the aggressive press coverage that they employ so effectively. It also allows them to drop Chancellor closer to the box. Take away Thomas, and they would give up a lot more big plays IMO. Or they would have to shift to a more passive D that would eliminate the team's biggest strength.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

I didn't get all the way through the thread when I was posting some of the stuff above. Apologies for repeating what other people have already said.

 

[yossarian]

You do realize the Seahawks have a general manager who is primarily in charge or the draft and FA, right? Carroll has some input, but Schneider is the primary decision-maker in terms of additions.

From what I've read, it's pretty equal in decision making, with the exception that Schneider apparently was really pushing for Wilson and wanted to draft him higher.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

From what I've read, it's pretty equal in decision making, with the exception that Schneider apparently was really pushing for Wilson and wanted to draft him higher.

You're closer to the pulse, so I'd tend to defer to you, but I'm skeptical. Especially in terms of college players. There's no way Carroll can put in nearly the time that Schneider does in boning up on these players. I'd bet it's at least 67%-33% Schneider-Carroll, and probably tipped more sharply toward Schneider.

 

[octagondd]

You're closer to the pulse, so I'd tend to defer to you, but I'm skeptical. Especially in terms of college players. There's no way Carroll can put in nearly the time that Schneider does in boning up on these players. I'd bet it's at least 67%-33% Schneider-Carroll, and probably tipped more sharply toward Schneider.

Schneider presents the list to Carroll. Pete then picks who he likes and they discuss it together along with owner Paul Allen.

Pete has an extensive list of players he scouted back at USC and some of those players are on the team now. It will be interesting as time goes on to see how much Pete is involved with choosing players since his list of players from the USC days is pretty much done now. He loves football though and I think he loves the recruiting process, so it may be no different at all.

 

[TobyTyler]

You do realize that Beats is a global company while Buick is mainly North America...

And I also realize you have to sell about 50,000 Beats to equal the cost of a Buick

 

[TobyTyler]

Kaepernick has a deal with Jaguar, which is a luxury car company as well.

Here let me show you how well Jaguar is doing as a company:
Jaguar Land Rover Posts Record Sales for 2013 - WSJ.com

Your argument is dead. Kaepernick appeals to the broke dicks and rich people.

Jaguar? When is the last time you saw a Jaguar on the road?

 

[TobyTyler]

You do realize the Seahawks have a general manager who is primarily in charge or the draft and FA, right? Carroll has some input, but Schneider is the primary decision-maker in terms of additions.

And you realize that Pete Carroll hired him, right?

 

[dredinis21]

And I also realize you have to sell about 50,000 Beats to equal the cost of a Buick

Bullshit. Beats are averaging $200 per headset so your arbitrary 50k number once again shows your ignorance towards the topic you continue to comment about. Either know at least a little bit about the topic or stop commenting.

 

[SeattleNinersFan]

Kaepernick has a deal with Jaguar, which is a luxury car company as well.

Here let me show you how well Jaguar is doing as a company:
Jaguar Land Rover Posts Record Sales for 2013 - WSJ.com

Your argument is dead. Kaepernick appeals to the broke dicks and rich people.

Must add that never in my lifetime has Buick ever been a luxury brand and I bought my first car 30 years ago. I even owned a Buick and though it was kind of a KMart special kind of car.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

You do realize the Seahawks have a general manager who is primarily in charge or the draft and FA, right? Carroll has some input, but Schneider is the primary decision-maker in terms of additions.

Nope … Carroll overrides him if he chooses… Pete made it clear when he signed here he wanted full control and that's what he got… John helps with decision making but Pete will override him if he feels …