Hawks prioritize Thomas over Sherman

[TobyTyler]

Thomas is probably the best safety in the league and Sherman is probably the best CB. Thomas will be cheaper to sign because of his position. Sherman will look for Revis money and I don't see how the Seahawks can pay that.

I don't see Wilson looking for a hometown discount. This might be the only huge contract that Wilson gets. I'm sure his agent will look to maximize his value. I don't see any less then 18mil a year. I could see his first couple years being in the 15-16 range then jumping to the 21-22 range.

Not a chance in the world Pete Carroll will pay his quarterback that much. Not a chance in the world. he will lock up as much of that defense as he can and when someone leaves he'l make more astute FA acquisitions like he did with Avril and Bennett.

 

[MHSL82]

I think you guys could have even won the SuperBowl with [quarterback] like Alex Smith because of your defense and his lack of turnovers.

And ability to make plays occasionally and clutch play at times. Smith also could have lost, too, of course.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Wilson is going to get paid he may take a discount but he's not even making a million dollars a year I don't believe so even 12 million is a huge swing in the cap, but keep reaching for that pie in the sky seahawks fans.

If he and his agent think they are worth $20 million per year. Don't think he is going to accept $10 million. They might take a little less, but not much. I would expect the same from Kapernick or other players. It is their first major contract and they want to get paid.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

I agree with that. I have said many times on here that wilson has great composure and that is his biggest asset and perfect for that team. wilson has that defense to rely on. hasselbeck had to make a lot more plays.

Look at andrew luck. The guy has to do everything for the colts offense so he makes a lot of mistakes and people undervalue him. But the truth is, he makes more mistakes because he has to do so much. He turned Jeff Garciaed that organization. Now it is up to the front office to build around him if they are gonna turn the corner.

You make a good point there… No doubt Matt never had the defensive luxury… Good decisions are still critical though at certain times… Your defense in 2011 was flat out at another level and Alex in that NFC title game was HORRIFIC… I know you guy's had meltdowns in special teams that cost you BUT if Smith just played halfway decent you guy's beat the Giants before that even happens … So you still need qb's to step up in big moments… As far as Luck yeah he really has too much on the plate and it showed… I felt sorry for him in that final playoff game…

 

[sjballer03]

Sponsorships aren't an unlimited resource for athletes to tap into. Contrary to what fans think, companies spend a lot of time analyzing who they want. The same thing goes for the media. Not any player out there will get a job as a radio/tv analyst just because they a won a championship.

 

[MHSL82]

You make a good point there… No doubt Matt never had the defensive luxury… Good decisions are still critical though at certain times… Your defense in 2011 was flat out at another level and Alex in that NFC title game was HORRIFIC… I know you guy's had meltdowns in special teams that cost you BUT if Smith just played halfway decent you guy's beat the Giants before that even happens … So you still need qb's to step up in big moments… As far as Luck yeah he really has too much on the plate and it showed… I felt sorry for him in that final playoff game…

He was halfway decent, people throw out his deep TDs because it was early and we went in conservative mode after. He tied the game (ok, mostly Gore) after the first muff gave NY the lead. TEs and RBs still count, so mentioning the stats to receivers is slanted. Third down is the most important down, but we got 15 compared to 20 on two fewer possessions (muffed punts). Everyone, including Smith, had their fault, not just Williams. He did well enough that the horrific didn't have to be capitalized. Compromise?

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

He was halfway decent, people throw out his deep TDs because it was early and we went in conservative mode after. He tied the game (ok, mostly Gore) after the first muff gave NY the lead. TEs and RBs still count, so mentioning the stats to receivers is slanted. Third down is the most important down, but we got 15 compared to 20 on two fewer possessions (muffed punts). Everyone, including Smith, had their fault, not just Williams. He did well enough that the horrific didn't have to be capitalized. Compromise?

hahaha ok… 12 for 26 and 1-13 on 3rd downs was pretty bad though.. I take back horrific… I still feel though if he even play's and average game you guy's beat the Giants that day though… Your D did everything it could …

 

[dredinis21]

RW just won a super bowl, National appeal is on its way. It goes side by side with your Peyton reference which he was on SNL after he won a Superbowl.

Here is WHY you are wrong with this statement. Wilson didn't have a blowout game, he wasn't MVP, and nobody outside of SEA really saw him as the storyline leaving NY after the SB win. The talk was about the defense, Marshawn Lynch, and Harvin's return. RW was an afterthought.

The only way he would be in line to get serious endorsement dollars while still keeping his monotone, cliche persona intact is if he had lit up DEN for 300+ yards, 3+ TDs, etc. He did not therefore his national appeal with regards to endorsement deals is next to nothing.

I am NOT saying he is not a good QB, I am simply addressing advertising dollars that SEA fans expect him to have post Super Bowl.

 

[dredinis21]

I disagree. I think he'll do well. If an ignorant, surly lout like Kaepernick can get national commercials for losing the Super Bowl, I bet Wilson gets a lot for actually winning one.

This is WHY you are wrong with this statement. Kap, love him or hate him, has done quite a good job of marketing himself. His Kaepernicking trademark TD move was huge, his tattoos at the QB position are very much against the norm, and his semi-fashion appeals to younger companies....hence the Beats By Dre commercials. His play is quantifiable, meaning that although both RW and Kap are good at running, RW is running east to west to extend plays whereas Kap has north-south running ability and his Madden abilities appealed to the masses. So to you he is an "ignorant, surly lout" but he is far more astute and in touch with his marketability then you obvious are.

This is you just showing your extreme hate for Kap.

 

[NinerSickness]

Zorn was pretty exciting to watch I will agree…

He's one of the worst play-callers I've ever seen though.

 

[RoboticDreams]

You couldn't have put this in one of the other Seahawk threads?

This board needs to get over what other teams are doing, especialy that one specific team to the north... I understand the need to talk about other teams, but this is borderline obsessed...

Get over it for gods sake...

Completely agree. It's fucking embarrassing. Stop obsessing about the damn Seahawks for Christ's sake. All this does is make our fan base look like a bunch of whiny-ass losers. I don't care what their team is doing.

Are we supposed to hope for success because of subtraction by them or addition from our own team? I want to get better, not bet on them getting worse.

 

[whysies]

Completely agree. It's fucking embarrassing. Stop obsessing about the damn Seahawks for Christ's sake. All this does is make our fan base look like a bunch of whiny-ass losers. I don't care what their team is doing.

Are we supposed to hope for success because of subtraction by them or addition from our own team? I want to get better, not bet on them getting worse.

Seriously. When I think whiny-ass losers I think Seahawks fans. Let's not stoop to their level.

 

[RoboticDreams]

Seriously. When I think whiny-ass losers I think Seahawks fans. Let's not stoop to their level.

 

[TobyTyler]

This is WHY you are wrong with this statement. Kap, love him or hate him, has done quite a good job of marketing himself. His Kaepernicking trademark TD move was huge, his tattoos at the QB position are very much against the norm, and his semi-fashion appeals to younger companies....hence the Beats By Dre commercials. His play is quantifiable, meaning that although both RW and Kap are good at running, RW is running east to west to extend plays whereas Kap has north-south running ability and his Madden abilities appealed to the masses. So to you he is an "ignorant, surly lout" but he is far more astute and in touch with his marketability then you obvious are.

This is you just showing your extreme hate for Kap.

Beats can't make you money because they appeal to the broke, unemployed crowd. Now Manning, on the other hand, appeals to people who have money. Buick uses Manning to sell expensive cars and makes a lot of money off of him. Thus Manning makes a lot of money. I doubt Kaepernick gets much at all from Beats.

Kaepernick's ridiculous tattoos and surly gangster wannabe attitude are the reason companies can't make money with him. That stuff again appeals to the broke dick crowd who can't buy anything. Did you notice how kaepernick was dressed during his Super Bowl appearances? I think his handlers are finally getting through to him.

 

[MHSL82]

Beats can't make you money because they appeal to the broke, unemployed crowd. Now Manning, on the other hand, appeals to people who have money. Buick uses Manning to sell expensive cars and makes a lot of money off of him. Thus Manning makes a lot of money. I doubt Kaepernick gets much at all from Beats.

Kaepernick's ridiculous tattoos and surly gangster wannabe attitude are the reason companies can't make money with him. That stuff again appeals to the broke dick crowd who can't buy anything. Did you notice how kaepernick was dressed during his Super Bowl appearances? I think his handlers are finally getting through to him.

Kaepernick does have McDonalds and Manning has Papa John's so they could both appeal to both. I'm not sure how much those headphones are, and I'm not sure that it's that expensive. Remember, even if your premise were right, those who don't have money aren't always the best in making decisions on where to spend that money. Marketers know this. So even if you are right, Beats could get him money. He doesn't have to be selling the expensive cars. Plus, if he wins, I think he could sell some expensive cars.

However, I'm not sure the price of the Beats has anything to do with your argument. I think Kaepernick being who he is and you being who you are has everything to do with it.

 

[sjballer03]

Beats can't make you money because they appeal to the broke, unemployed crowd. Now Manning, on the other hand, appeals to people who have money. Buick uses Manning to sell expensive cars and makes a lot of money off of him. Thus Manning makes a lot of money. I doubt Kaepernick gets much at all from Beats.

Kaepernick's ridiculous tattoos and surly gangster wannabe attitude are the reason companies can't make money with him. That stuff again appeals to the broke dick crowd who can't buy anything. Did you notice how kaepernick was dressed during his Super Bowl appearances? I think his handlers are finally getting through to him.

Beats made over 1.5 billion in revenue during 2013. This is quadruple their revenue in 2011. Seems like a lot of "broke people" are buying them. I'd say Beats is making plenty of money and will continue to grow.

You seem so sure that companies aren't making money with Kaepernick. Has he lost any sponsorships due to this behavior and image you hate so much? Do you have a source or is this your prejudice talking?

 

[FourBeeDen]

Beats can't make you money because they appeal to the broke, unemployed crowd. Now Manning, on the other hand, appeals to people who have money. Buick uses Manning to sell expensive cars and makes a lot of money off of him. Thus Manning makes a lot of money. I doubt Kaepernick gets much at all from Beats.

Kaepernick's ridiculous tattoos and surly gangster wannabe attitude are the reason companies can't make money with him. That stuff again appeals to the broke dick crowd who can't buy anything. Did you notice how kaepernick was dressed during his Super Bowl appearances? I think his handlers are finally getting through to him.

Obviously you don't work in Marketing if this is the kind of ideas you have... I am no expert either but at least I know a little bit about demographics... Buick's target audiences are those from mid 30's and above... Beats target audiences are teens to late 20's... Their product line targets that audiences...These are the ages that can easily identify with Kaep more than the Buick crowd.. Your outrageous statements above shows that you are probably above 45-ish and can't relate to the younger generation... I bet that when you were in your late teens or early 20's, people above 45 can't relate to what you are doing either...

 

[MHSL82]

Beats made over 1.5 billion in revenue during 2013. This is quadruple their revenue in 2011. Seems like a lot of "broke people" are buying them. I'd say Beats is making plenty of money and will continue to grow.

You seem so sure that companies aren't making money with Kaepernick. Has he lost any sponsorships due to this behavior and image you hate so much? Do you have a source or is this your prejudice talking?

It is his prejudice speaking, but also I would add that you can't know what sponsorships you lose when you don't sign them. Maybe some company was thinking about it but then decided against it because of his off the field things? I don't think that's the case so don't get me wrong, I'm just saying that you cannot be looking at and absence of sponsorships lost as a sign of anything.

 

[TobyTyler]

Beats made over 1.5 billion in revenue during 2013. This is quadruple their revenue in 2011. Seems like a lot of "broke people" are buying them. I'd say Beats is making plenty of money and will continue to grow.

You seem so sure that companies aren't making money with Kaepernick. Has he lost any sponsorships due to this behavior and image you hate so much? Do you have a source or is this your prejudice talking?

Bullshit

 

[TobyTyler]

Obviously you don't work in Marketing if this is the kind of ideas you have... I am no expert either but at least I know a little bit about demographics... Buick's target audiences are those from mid 30's and above... Beats target audiences are teens to late 20's... Their product line targets that audiences...These are the ages that can easily identify with Kaep more than the Buick crowd.. Your outrageous statements above shows that you are probably above 45-ish and can't relate to the younger generation... I bet that when you were in your late teens or early 20's, people above 45 can't relate to what you are doing either...

Exactly. Manning is a target for the demographic that has money. Beats is for the teens who are broke dick. Sell one Buick and you've got 40 to 50 K. Sell one set of ridiculous looking headphones and you got 20 bucks. The astute businessman will pick Manning to represent his product every time.