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Greatest NBA Player of all-time

Who is your GOAT?

  • Magic Johnson

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • Wilt Chaimberlain

    Votes: 4 7.1%
  • Michael Jordan

    Votes: 35 62.5%
  • LeBron James

    Votes: 5 8.9%
  • someone else (please explain whom)

    Votes: 11 19.6%

  • Total voters
    56

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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar vs. Michael Jordan Comparison
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The Oldtimer

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Saw him with Nets(ABA) in Detroit,and people were on their feet every time he had ball.
Jordan stole his act-lol
Earl "the pearl" Monroe was also good with the basketball. Nevertheless the big "O"was the best "all-around basketball player", I have seen in my lifetime. JMHO.
 
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Once and for all, no doubt it's "His Airness" Michael Jordan!

One reason that this is interesting to debate is that no one is really consistent.

MJ is better than Lebron because he is 6-0 in the NBA Finals. (and Lebron is only 3-5)

But Bill Russell won 11 NBA Championships (I think 11-0 in the Finals) -- but he is still not on the same level as MJ.

(just ignore stupid people who bring up someone like Robert Horry -- that is just dumb)
 

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One reason that this is interesting to debate is that no one is really consistent.

MJ is better than Lebron because he is 6-0 in the NBA Finals. (and Lebron is only 3-5)

But Bill Russell won 11 NBA Championships (I think 11-0 in the Finals) -- but he is still not on the same level as MJ.

(just ignore stupid people who bring up someone like Robert Horry -- that is just dumb)
Well IMO, I think NBA Championships are important, but they are just part of being the best basketball player that ever played the game. If anyone had the chance to watch pro basketball since the late 50's, they would be more objective on who the greatest pro basketball player is/was. How can a 20/30/40 year old fan, say that Jordan, Lebron or Kobe were/are the best when they didn't get the chance to watch some of the greats, from the 50's, 60's or 70's?
 

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I wasn't around for Magic or Wilt, but I was for Jordan. And at the time I was a fan of the Orlando Magic and could not stand Jordan.

Jordan is the Greatest of all time.
 

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I wasn't around for Magic or Wilt, but I was for Jordan. And at the time I was a fan of the Orlando Magic and could not stand Jordan.

Jordan is the Greatest of all time.
If you weren't around for Magic, Big "O" or Wilt, how can you call Jordan the "Greatest of ALL time"? Maybe Jordan was the best player that you ever seen.
 

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Jabbar's stats are superior to Jordan's.

Well, to be fair that list is cherry picked to favor Kareem. There is a reason they went with totals and not per game averages. Also, anything Kareem did in college should be irrelevant to the conversation. We are discussing NBA history.
 

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One reason that this is interesting to debate is that no one is really consistent.

MJ is better than Lebron because he is 6-0 in the NBA Finals. (and Lebron is only 3-5)

But Bill Russell won 11 NBA Championships (I think 11-0 in the Finals) -- but he is still not on the same level as MJ.

(just ignore stupid people who bring up someone like Robert Horry -- that is just dumb)
Some people say Tom Brady is better then Joe Montana, even though cool Joe is 4-0 in the super bowl. So which is it? Undefeated in the biggest game, or overall stats?
 

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Win shares is far from a perfect stat. It definitely seems to favor big men, where PER is more neutral or perhaps even favoring guards.

I was looking at the list of best single season win share totals, and guess who was not there? Westbrook's 2017 season was not in the top 250 of all time in terms of win shares. It wasn't even Russ' best season. That came in '13/'14. Just wanted to put that out there for those who claim Russ' regular season numbers were among the best seasons ever.
 

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Also, LeBron is first by a pretty wide margin in career playoff win shares, but still a ways out of the top 10 in regular season totals. I think Jordan was 4th and 2nd in the playoffs.
 

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Duncan needs to be up there somewhere as dog Shaq. More FMVP and titles than Lebron.

Lebron/Kobe is arguable right now. Lebron has better regular season accolades but Kobe is 5-2 in NBA finals while Lebron is 3-5. AND played in a much tougher conference his entire career. No contest.

:pound: you have zero clue
 
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