Fordman's Dream Scenario

[Manster7588]

Fordman

If we somehow fuckup and get Manziel, I'm blaming you.

 

[UK Cowboy]

If you wanted Johnny Football in Dallas, you'd have to get him before Jax or Cleveland IMO, because one of them will take him. I'm sure the Rams would love to sucker...err...trade with another team looking for a QB at the top of the draft. Considering what they got for RG3, I think they'd go a little less, but you're still talking about a 1st and 2nd this year, and a 1 next year. Unless you're a conspiracy theorist, and you think Fisher might want to come to Dallas next year after his contract runs out, in which case he'd refuse to gut the team before he got here lol

 

[fordman84]

FYI, I was kidding when I said I wanted JFF here. I'm on record as saying I'd be upset if Dallas drafted him. I don't think he will be a massive bust, but he won't do well in the NFL. He is faster than all but 1 or 2 guys on defense in the college world. He is faster than only 1 or 2 on an NFL defense. His legs ain't gonna buy him all that time in the NFL.

I think the price for the #2 pick with Manziel sitting there will be a 1 & 2 this year and next, and probably a 1 the following year as well.

 

[UK Cowboy]

FYI, I was kidding when I said I wanted JFF here. I'm on record as saying I'd be upset if Dallas drafted him. I don't think he will be a massive bust, but he won't do well in the NFL. He is faster than all but 1 or 2 guys on defense in the college world. He is faster than only 1 or 2 on an NFL defense. His legs ain't gonna buy him all that time in the NFL.

I think the price for the #2 pick with Manziel sitting there will be a 1 & 2 this year and next, and probably a 1 the following year as well.

I agree with you on his future. Yeah, when Clowney's 40 time smoked his, it should have let him know where he is now

 

[fordman84]

If we somehow fuckup and get Manziel, I'm blaming you.

lol, I don't want him here in all seriousness. I'll merge this with the other thread.


Remember, I'm hoping AJ McCarron is sitting there in the 4th and we get him to be the backup for a few years, then see if he has enough to cut Romo.

 

[fordman84]

I agree with you on his future. Yeah, when Clowney's 40 time smoked his, it should have let him know where he is now

My feeling is that he will bulk up a bit, which will slow him a bit. He will get stronger and his arm is accurate enough. He will cause headaches for anyone that could draft him, because there are no teams with a no-brainer QB starting (payton, brees, Brady, Cam, etc). So he will have to be a first year starter, and the speed of the game will destroy him.

 

[Manster7588]

FYI, I was kidding when I said I wanted JFF here. I'm on record as saying I'd be upset if Dallas drafted him. I don't think he will be a massive bust, but he won't do well in the NFL. He is faster than all but 1 or 2 guys on defense in the college world. He is faster than only 1 or 2 on an NFL defense. His legs ain't gonna buy him all that time in the NFL.

I think the price for the #2 pick with Manziel sitting there will be a 1 & 2 this year and next, and probably a 1 the following year as well.

I knew you were. I saw and understood the brick to the head. This was just payback to you calling into question my Cowboy allegiance. By the way I know you were just kidding there too. I'm just being an ass and having fun.

 

[Manster7588]

lol, I don't want him here in all seriousness. I'll merge this with the other thread.


Remember, I'm hoping AJ McCarron is sitting there in the 4th and we get him to be the backup for a few years, then see if he has enough to cut Romo.

I think AJ and Murray may be there in the 5th. For the record I'd prefer Murray.

 

[UK Cowboy]

My feeling is that he will bulk up a bit, which will slow him a bit. He will get stronger and his arm is accurate enough. He will cause headaches for anyone that could draft him, because there are no teams with a no-brainer QB starting (payton, brees, Brady, Cam, etc). So he will have to be a first year starter, and the speed of the game will destroy him.

I think he is a victim of his own success, sort of like Tebow. If he were selected in the 3rd round, like say Russell Wilson, and were surrounded by that great defense and running game, yeah, maybe. But stick him in Cleveland, and despite some good young talent, I don't think so. Jax, they might go 0-16. The one really interesting scenario to me would be Houston at number 1. Houston has a heck of a lot more talent than anyone I can remember with the top pick, and it's possible he could have success there

 

[fordman84]

I think AJ and Murray may be there in the 5th. For the record I'd prefer Murray.

Murray would be better, and if they both are there I'd agree. I think the early run on QB's will drive both of them up into about the 3rd round though. In that case, rather than drafting a QB "just because" I'd hope we would look for players cut or undrafted roster fillers.

 

[Manster7588]

Murray would be better, and if they both are there I'd agree. I think the early run on QB's will drive both of them up into about the 3rd round though. In that case, rather than drafting a QB "just because" I'd hope we would look for players cut or undrafted roster fillers.

That's possible but the early run on QB's will eliminate the teams needing a QB. I can see a team drafting two QB's and letting them compete for the job.

 

[Eastbay]

That's possible but the early run on QB's will eliminate the teams needing a QB. I can see a team drafting two QB's and letting them compete for the job.

My let round QB gem is Shaw from South Carolina

#R. Wilson 2.0

 

[Manster7588]

My let round QB gem is Shaw from South Carolina

#R. Wilson 2.0

I don't want Wilson2.0. Just because one midget QB wins doesn't mean that's the new way to go. Hell I'm not even sold on Wilson. He had a great team around him.

 

[jarntt]

I don't want Wilson2.0. Just because one midget QB wins doesn't mean that's the new way to go. Hell I'm not even sold on Wilson. He had a great team around him.

I like Wilson, but damn if I haven't already heard 3 different guys in this draft called the next Russell Wilson or a poor man's Russell Wilson.

This does have Jerry written all over it though. See player succeed, Find similar player...At least that philosophy ensures we will draft some defense this year. I cracked up reading Stephen's quotes about how relying on free agency isn't the way to build a team though...How long did it take these morons to realize this? I would love to hear the "Football talk" that goes on around their dinner table. My wife would fit right in and she doesn't know how many downs you get...

 

[Manster7588]

I like Wilson, but damn if I haven't already heard 3 different guys in this draft called the next Russell Wilson or a poor man's Russell Wilson.

This does have Jerry written all over it though. See player succeed, Find similar player...At least that philosophy ensures we will draft some defense this year. I cracked up reading Stephen's quotes about how relying on free agency isn't the way to build a team though...How long did it take these morons to realize this? I would love to hear the "Football talk" that goes on around their dinner table. My wife would fit right in and she doesn't know how many downs you get...

My knock on Wilson is his size. Other than that he'd be more than fine ad an NFL QB. It's just not likely that a 6ft and under QB is going to make a good NFL QB. Wilson is they exception. Now there's a bunch of yahoos wanting to draft midget QB,s. I'll pass.

 

[tw1st3d]

The only late round Qb I would get upset over is Logan Thomas

 

[Manster7588]

The only late round Qb I would get upset over is Logan Thomas

What if he's taken in the 4th round?

 

[tw1st3d]

What if he's taken in the 4th round?

Logan Thomas plays for my team.... I watch him every week ..... I NEVER want to see him pretend to be a Qb again

He fucking SUCKS!!!!!!!

 

[PDay8810]

• Virginia Tech QB Logan Thomas had a monster workout on Sunday. Not only is he the strongest-armed quarterback in this class, but at 6-6, 250 pounds, he ran the fastest 40 time among QBs at 4.61 in addition to producing the best vertical and broad jumps and second-fastest short shuttle time behind Manziel. If you’re drafting him, you’re doing so knowing that he has a longer road to development than other quarterbacks. He was very inconsistent with his accuracy and mechanics at Virginia Tech. But if you can really teach and coach the quarterback position, he’s the ultimate project: Nobody else has his raw ability, and he’s a high-character guy, too.


no problem with a 7th rounder if Orton stays another year and Thomas gets a year on the PS. Hard not to be intrigued by the measurables and I thought he played a pretty good game in his bowl game

 

[tw1st3d]

• Virginia Tech QB Logan Thomas had a monster workout on Sunday. Not only is he the strongest-armed quarterback in this class, but at 6-6, 250 pounds, he ran the fastest 40 time among QBs at 4.61 in addition to producing the best vertical and broad jumps and second-fastest short shuttle time behind Manziel. If you’re drafting him, you’re doing so knowing that he has a longer road to development than other quarterbacks. He was very inconsistent with his accuracy and mechanics at Virginia Tech. But if you can really teach and coach the quarterback position, he’s the ultimate project: Nobody else has his raw ability, and he’s a high-character guy, too.


no problem with a 7th rounder if Orton stays another year and Thomas gets a year on the PS. Hard not to be intrigued by the measurables and I thought he played a pretty good game in his bowl game

What it fails to mention is that he has the decision making ability of a 3rd grader building a nuke. He can't read defenses worth a shit.

If I hadn't watched him weekly ... I'd be intrigued by his workout...... But I have watched him ... and cussed him most Saturdays

You're right he is practice squad player ..... and maybe in 3-4 years you could turn him into a Qb
The article is right HUGE PROJECT and damn sure not worth a 4th rounder especially in a draft this deep