Flyers Cap Central 2011

[flyersfan4706]

I posted those line because they suck unfortunately

 

[awaz]

From the HFBoards

Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Jeff Carter ($5.272m) / Andreas Nodl ($0.850m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Darroll Powe ($0.750m)

DEFENSEMEN
Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / Mark Stuart ($1.700m)
Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)

GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.333m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)





Quick question, is Bob 1 way or 2 way?

i really don't think there's a good way to keep any type of quality 3 forward lines without dumping carter or hartnell to clear cap.. and i've mentioned carle quite a few times as a salary dump, but we have to replace him with someone better than mark stuart, especially if gustafsson is going to replace OD

 

[flyersfan4706]

This has gotten sad. I am lost. I hope Homer isnt.

 

[awaz]

This has gotten sad. I am lost. I hope Homer isnt.

if he's not now, he's going to be when pronger is a shadow of his former flyer self, which was a shadow of his former hall of fame self

i have loved homer for the most part and backed him in a lot of his endeavors and defended a lot of his cap slaughter.. but that pronger trade is going to crush him if he cant pull a rabbit out of a hat

 

[indyflyr]

we should be fine awaz. as long as the cap keeps heading north each year it should augment prongers numbers. pronger won't be in the no. 1 pairing past 2013. but he will make a high paid, but pretty good 4-5-6-7 dman in his twilight. if his back heads south, which likely will happen at some point, we will buy out his contract at 2/3 value. if he can play the next two years, then that is our window.

 

[FlyerFinFan]

If Prongers back gives out he can be put on LTIR so I'm not worried....plus Indy's right he will always contribute because he's that skilled even if its as a 4th dman. As I mentioned on other posts you either have to trade guys like Carle/Versteeg or Carts. I'd go with Carts because it doesn't completely fuck up your lines/team. If I'm Homer I'm really considering the Columbus offer Voracek and a high number 1 pick is pretty good as it allows you an NHL fwd now and a great prospect to come in soon to help you out with our future cap problems.

 

[awaz]

If Prongers back gives out he can be put on LTIR so I'm not worried....plus Indy's right always contributed because he was that skilled

fixed.

 

[FlyerFinFan]

fixed.

Haha ah come on man if Pronger can skate he'll always do his part I'm not remotely concerned about that. Obviously if he's at his best the teams better off but he'd still contribute on the 2nd or 3rd pairing for years to come...if you don't believe that I can't help you.

 

[flyersfan4706]

What is the cap supposed to do next offseason? If it goes up we could try to backload a Bryzgalov contract

 

[FlyerFinFan]

What is the cap supposed to do next offseason? If it goes up we could try to backload a Bryzgalov contract

Its supposed to go up but you can't beat the cap they take the average...

 

[flyersfan4706]

Oh damn. I thought I had solved all of our problems

 

[awaz]

Haha ah come on man if Pronger can skate he'll always do his part I'm not remotely concerned about that. Obviously if he's at his best the teams better off but he'd still contribute on the 2nd or 3rd pairing for years to come...if you don't believe that I can't help you.

he can contribute.. he's a decent player.. i just have to live up to my name

i just haven't seen pronger play up to a contract he's had while in philly.. i didnt think he was worth the 6.whatever when he got here, i don't think he played worthy of 4.9 this year, and i dont think he will play up to his 4.9 in the future, especially considering his back problems

in the cap era, my opinion on whether or not they are a 'good player' based on how they play to the cap hit

aside from timonen cause he's earned 'the man' status in his years in philly.. unfortunately he's declining

 

[flyersfan4706]

Andrej Meszaros shall become the Man

And I am seriously considering getting his jersey, 2012 Winter Classic of course

 

[awaz]

Andrej Meszaros shall become the Man

And I am seriously considering getting his jersey, 2012 Winter Classic of course

meszaros is definitely a 'the man' candidate.. if he backs it up next year he can take over, i'd be perfectly fine with that.. he was an absolute stud this year

 

[flyersfan4706]

I hope if he has a year like last year's we lock him up. I (Semi homo) love the guy, and he is TWENTY FUCKING FIVE

 

[indyflyr]

i agree with you that pronger has not earned all his money since he has come here. but i can say without any hesitation that this team plays much better with him on it than before he came. it is no accident that they went to the finals last year. and it was a year in which he was healthy. not saying it was all him. it wasn't. but this team just calms down when he's in the line up. don't know why. but it is true.

 

[flyersfan4706]

I like Pronger, and I still do. I feel like he will be doing a good job for the majority of his time here. The bad thing is a good job isnt the kind of money he is making, and there are plenty of cheaper, younger options for a good job.

 

[indyflyr]

there's good job as a player. and there is just good for the team. pronger is good for the team. his best days are behind him. but the opposition flat out fears him. maybe they should not. but they do.

 

[flyersfan4706]

The problem is how long will they fear him?

 

[FlyerFinFan]

They'll fear him until he can't skate anymore he brings a lot to any team and if you can't see it then I don't know what to say. Teams don't magically end up in cup finals with him on it for nothing....