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Trubisky's per-game numbers are about the same as Ben's numbers last year (but not as many attempts). And he went 29-21 on a Bears team that went 4-10 without him.

If it's ground and pound you shouldn't put it all on Najee. Tomlin could use another horse back there.

(No way the Browns were letting the Steelers get Mayfield if they could help it.)
That win/loss ratio is largely built on that 2018 Bears, #1 defense in points allowed, #1 defense in yards rushing, #3 in yards passing, #1 in INT's. They only allowed more than 22 pts 4 times, and they lost all 4.

Zero 1000 yard rushers, zero 800+ yard receivers, Trubs was 3200 24/12
 

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That win/loss ratio is largely built on that 2018 Bears, #1 defense in points allowed, #1 defense in yards rushing, #3 in yards passing, #1 in INT's. They only allowed more than 22 pts 4 times, and they lost all 4.

Zero 1000 yard rushers, zero 800+ yard receivers, Trubs was 3200 24/12
Dont think Will is referring to Trubs' 1st season... they were not 4-10 that year.
 

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SI's Albert Breer believes the Patriots could entertain the idea of trading contract-year RB Damien Harris.​

As Breer notes, Rhamondre Stevenson has established himself worthy of being the starter, and the Patriots have a stable of running backs behind both Stevenson and Harris. They signed Ty Montgomery, James White and J.J. Taylor remain on the roster, and New England drafted Pierre Strong and Kevin Harris. There's zero chance all these guys make the 53-man roster. Harris is likely to walk as a free agent in 2023, so if the Patriots feel comfortable enough with the younger guys, flipping Harris to an RB-needy team could make some sense. A Harris trade would absolutely skyrocket Stevenson's fantasy stock.
 

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SI's Albert Breer believes the Patriots could entertain the idea of trading contract-year RB Damien Harris.​

As Breer notes, Rhamondre Stevenson has established himself worthy of being the starter, and the Patriots have a stable of running backs behind both Stevenson and Harris. They signed Ty Montgomery, James White and J.J. Taylor remain on the roster, and New England drafted Pierre Strong and Kevin Harris. There's zero chance all these guys make the 53-man roster. Harris is likely to walk as a free agent in 2023, so if the Patriots feel comfortable enough with the younger guys, flipping Harris to an RB-needy team could make some sense. A Harris trade would absolutely skyrocket Stevenson's fantasy stock.
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That win/loss ratio is largely built on that 2018 Bears, #1 defense in points allowed, #1 defense in yards rushing, #3 in yards passing, #1 in INT's. They only allowed more than 22 pts 4 times, and they lost all 4.

Zero 1000 yard rushers, zero 800+ yard receivers, Trubs was 3200 24/12
Also important to remember that Najee looks just like Anne Hathaway.

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Defenders might be like, "Whoa, that's Anne Hathaway!"
 

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There would be precious few rhings football related that could make me happier than this coming true. But who's gonna trade for a RB? Melvin Gordon had to settle for a backup role in Denver and no one would've had to give up anything to get him.

Takes 2 to do the trade tango, and who still needs a REAL RB? (Spoiler alert- the same teams who needed one going into the draft)
And who has an actual reason to deal value for one?
ATL, HOUS, MIA they sorely need one, none have a viable reason to trade anything of value for a RB with one year on his deal. They are in no danger of realistically competing for the playoffs.

Would KC finally admit thier collection of underachievers is a failed experiment?

NO would have a need and a reason if shit hits the fan with Kamara sooner than later.

IMHO, the Rams would be well served by a guy like Harris, ciz I still don't buy Akers and his achillies.

I can't think of anyone else, baring a real serious contender having a guy go down to injury.


Same applies to the Josh Jacobs rumors, even if they really were trying to trade him, who will dance with them?

Not a good fit for the Rams IMO. They need someone who is a receiving threat out of the backfield if replacing Akers.
 

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Dont think Will is referring to Trubs' 1st season... they were not 4-10 that year.
I guess I'm confused as to where you're going here?

My point wasn't any single season in particular, but rather, Trubisky's career W/L record being roughly .500 is due in large part to being 11-3 in '18, becuase the Bears had a truly elite defense. The year prior, they had a top 10 D and rookie Trubs was 4-8, the year after that elite D, 2019, they were still top 5 in D, Trubs was 8-7, then in '29 the D slacked off to top 15, Trubs was 6-8..
Thus..my original comment of : if Tomlins expects Trubs to lead the Steelers to the playoffs, he'd better have an 'OG Steel Curtain' type of defense for Trubs to lean on, cuz that's the only time he's better than a. 500 QB
 

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Not a good fit for the Rams IMO. They need someone who is a receiving threat out of the backfield if replacing Akers.
Meh, he's no CMAC or Barkley or Ekeler out of the backfield, but he's not a negative in that aspect, hes just never been heavily utilized, especially given being in NE with guys like White and Bolden constantly around. They'd do just fine
 

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I guess I'm confused as to where you're going here?

My point wasn't any single season in particular, but rather, Trubisky's career W/L record being roughly .500 is due in large part to being 11-3 in '18, becuase the Bears had a truly elite defense. The year prior, they had a top 10 D and rookie Trubs was 4-8, the year after that elite D, 2019, they were still top 5 in D, Trubs was 8-7, then in '29 the D slacked off to top 15, Trubs was 6-8..
Thus..my original comment of : if Tomlins expects Trubs to lead the Steelers to the playoffs, he'd better have an 'OG Steel Curtain' type of defense for Trubs to lean on, cuz that's the only time he's better than a. 500 QB
Was loosely following.
Maybe i am confused?
Didnt think that was the point Will was pointing out.
Trubs may have been bad. But as we found out, Nagy was no guru either. He didnt develop Trubisky. And even after pining for Foles & Dalton, Nagy's offense got worse.

Maybe its selfish, but i hope Trubs does well, just to drive another nail in Nagy's ability to coach.
 

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I guess I'm confused as to where you're going here?

My point wasn't any single season in particular, but rather, Trubisky's career W/L record being roughly .500 is due in large part to being 11-3 in '18, becuase the Bears had a truly elite defense. The year prior, they had a top 10 D and rookie Trubs was 4-8, the year after that elite D, 2019, they were still top 5 in D, Trubs was 8-7, then in '29 the D slacked off to top 15, Trubs was 6-8..
Thus..my original comment of : if Tomlins expects Trubs to lead the Steelers to the playoffs, he'd better have an 'OG Steel Curtain' type of defense for Trubs to lean on, cuz that's the only time he's better than a. 500 QB
That and no third-and-longs.
 

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Was loosely following.
Maybe i am confused?
Didnt think that was the point Will was pointing out.
Trubs may have been bad. But as we found out, Nagy was no guru either. He didnt develop Trubisky. And even after pining for Foles & Dalton, Nagy's offense got worse.

Maybe its selfish, but i hope Trubs does well, just to drive another nail in Nagy's ability to coach.
Oh sure, I'm in no way blaming the Bears shortcoming entirely on Trubs, there was certainly more blame to go around. I'm only saying he is kinda similar to a Trent Dilfer, if not asked to do much more than 'not lose the game', he can maybe get the job done half the time. And that situation would require a defense like those '18 Bears, or those Ravens, Bucs, or an OG Steelers team
 

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Oh sure, I'm in no way blaming the Bears shortcoming entirely on Trubs, there was certainly more blame to go around. I'm only saying he is kinda similar to a Trent Dilfer, if not asked to do much more than 'not lose the game', he can maybe get the job done half the time. And that situation would require a defense like those '18 Bears, or those Ravens, Bucs, or an OG Steelers team
Well, maybe it seems like i am defending Trubisky? Maybe i am?
Dilfer was in the league some 6 years when he landed in Baltimore. In contrast, Trubisky came into the league with little experience under center. Nagy was supposed to be that guru, that coach, that teacher for Trubs.
Nagy implied that he had to dumb down the offense for Trubisky. Just didnt seem like the offense was being tailored for a raw QB.

To his credit, Trubs took most of the blame and criticism. Enter Foles & Dalton. Same results if not worse.

Really do hope with the right tutilage, Trubs can flourish.
 

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Funny.
In Sleeper leagues, word of Adam Shaheen being traded... he was added in over 13K leagues.

Today? He failed his physical. Still a Fin.
 

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SI's Albert Breer reports Ameer Abdullah is expected to play the "James White role" in new coach Josh McDaniels' offense.​

Abdullah has been a "camp revelation" for the Raiders after he was one of the new regime's first signings in free agency. The 29-year-old former second-round pick has really found his place in the league as a pass-catching back. He caught 35 balls across 11 games for the Panthers last season with Christian McCaffrey hurt. Abdullah taking over the White role is bad news for Josh Jacobs and Kenyan Drake. Abdullah could bring back RB4 numbers in PPR-friendly fantasy formats after White averaged over four catches per game across his eight-year career under McDaniels in New England.


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Well, digging into this idiots summarization-
its not bad news for Jacobs or even Drake, as Jacobs hasn't been utilized in that role his entire career, and at some point, even though he's very well suited to do it, people need to stop expecting it, they, whether they is Gruden or McD, or whomever, just aren't going to use their lead every down back as that satellite specialist. Doesn't mean Jacobs won't get 2-4 catches every single game, it simply means his role is not at all likely to expand. However, with a more competent, modern offense, lead be an ultra efficient QB and big time playmakers, that rising tide floats all boats, add in Carr's aversion to throwing outside the numbers regardless of situation, and Jacobs will be just fine.
And its only bad news for Drake, if you foolishly expected him to do anything whatsoever, outside of giving Jacobs the occasional breather, to begin with. The person that it's terrible news for, is Zuess, whose path to NFL relevance is now pretty much stuck between performing on special teams, or straight up taking Drakes spot on the roster. (which is entirely possible, as Drake is a joke. Maybe they could trade him back to Arizona for a 2024 7th?)
 

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49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan said Trey Sermon is "doing a great job" at training camp and "has improved on so many things from last year."​

Shanahan in a radio interview also complimented big-back rookie Tyron Davis-Price, adding "he's still a rookie" who needs to learn the team's offense. The positive assessment of Sermon, who fell out of favor with the Niners' coaching staff in 2021, is notable after Shanahan in late July said Sermon is "as yolked up as he can be" headed into 2022. Any San Francisco running back who stays in the coaching staff's good graces could be in line for a decent workload, as fantasy managers have found out time and again in recent seasons. Sermon should not be written off as a late-round flier in redraft formats. Elijah Mitchell remains of the favorite to start 2022 as the team's primary ball carrier.


Well, like any news on the Rb's in SF, take it with a grain of salt...but it's better salt for Sermon than the typical news about the Niner's Rb's where Sermon is, more often than not, left out of the conversation entirely.

I think it'd be friggin hilarious if he steals the job coming out of camp.
 

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49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan said Trey Sermon is "doing a great job" at training camp and "has improved on so many things from last year."​

Shanahan in a radio interview also complimented big-back rookie Tyron Davis-Price, adding "he's still a rookie" who needs to learn the team's offense. The positive assessment of Sermon, who fell out of favor with the Niners' coaching staff in 2021, is notable after Shanahan in late July said Sermon is "as yolked up as he can be" headed into 2022. Any San Francisco running back who stays in the coaching staff's good graces could be in line for a decent workload, as fantasy managers have found out time and again in recent seasons. Sermon should not be written off as a late-round flier in redraft formats. Elijah Mitchell remains of the favorite to start 2022 as the team's primary ball carrier.


Well, like any news on the Rb's in SF, take it with a grain of salt...but it's better salt for Sermon than the typical news about the Niner's Rb's where Sermon is, more often than not, left out of the conversation entirely.

I think it'd be friggin hilarious if he steals the job coming out of camp.
Well I don't care about the situation, who he was playing against...nada....6 for 11 is not a good start
 
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