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[femurov]

Lou Brown said it in Major League during their spring training montage

Ok.. that's where it is from. Thank you.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Surprised I didn't find this in here... But it got buried by the Deshaun Watson stuff in the media

Court Reschedules Alvin Kamara's Hearing, Again

Alvin Kamara's Las Vegas hearing was rescheduled again by the court.

www.si.com

It's looking more like the legal timeline is setting up for this case to push out past the NFL season... This latest reschedule is further evidence. The case is proceeding even slower than originally predicted, with no official trial date set yet. They will reconvene in 60 days putting them around early October. If, and only IF, they move forward to trial at that juncture this could easily move into December or 2023. The trial itself could span over a month due to motions &/or evidentiary issues which require extra time. Although there are 2 things that I think could alter this...

1) The Video... If that video of the altercation surfaces, ie leaks, then all bets are off as to what the NFL will do. They will most certainly be forced to react to the situation to avoid the PR mess. If this happens then you can expect the possibility of Kamara getting shelved onto the exempt list.

2) Plea Negotations/Bargain or Settlement... Since the trial won't take place til mid-to-late season I don't suspect the NFL will intervene or levee their own suspension until due process takes course. However, its conceivable to expect some sort of deal to already be sitting on the table. There could be scenarios where everyone may push Kamara to take a deal in an effort to start his suspension.

Just a gut feeling here... Now that the facts have suddenly (yet quietly) changed to where the other NFL player (Lammons) dealt the first blow during the altercation, not Kamara. This could create an important distinction here... Just a hunch at this point in time, but doesn't this new information give cause for Kamara's defense for plea bargaining? If these new facts check out in the video evidence, then this recent reschedule could be a move to buy time to negotiate the plea bargain.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

@Shanemansj13

 

[TREFF]

Surprised I didn't find this in here... But it got buried by the Deshaun Watson stuff in the media

Court Reschedules Alvin Kamara's Hearing, Again

Alvin Kamara's Las Vegas hearing was rescheduled again by the court.

www.si.com

It's looking more like the legal timeline is setting up for this case to push out past the NFL season... This latest reschedule is further evidence. The case is proceeding even slower than originally predicted, with no official trial date set yet. They will reconvene in 60 days putting them around early October. If, and only IF, they move forward to trial at that juncture this could easily move into December or 2023. The trial itself could span over a month due to motions &/or evidentiary issues which require extra time. Although there are 2 things that I think could alter this...

1) The Video... If that video of the altercation surfaces, ie leaks, then all bets are off as to what the NFL will do. They will most certainly be forced to react to the situation to avoid the PR mess. If this happens then you can expect the possibility of Kamara getting shelved onto the exempt list.

2) Plea Negotations/Bargain or Settlement... Since the trial won't take place til mid-to-late season I don't suspect the NFL will intervene or levee their own suspension until due process takes course. However, its conceivable to expect some sort of deal to already be sitting on the table. There could be scenarios where everyone may push Kamara to take a deal in an effort to start his suspension.

Just a gut feeling here... Now that the facts have suddenly (yet quietly) changed to where the other NFL player (Lammons) dealt the first blow during the altercation, not Kamara. This could create an important distinction here... Just a hunch at this point in time, but doesn't this new information give cause for Kamara's defense for plea bargaining? If these new facts check out in the video evidence, then this recent reschedule could be a move to buy time to negotiate the plea bargain.

The surveillance video is out there, sitting on youtube, unless there a second one out there I'm not aware of?

I would have to imagine his lawyers and the prosecutors are in negotiations for a plea, surely angling to avoid jail time, but with the video, they don't have much leverage, so they're trying to position the trial/length/sentencing/and probable jail time to be in the offseason. Problem is, even with a plea bargain, the judge doesn't have to abide by the sentencing suggested in the bargain and that potential jail time could be worse than anticipated. I can't imagine the prosecutors haven't offered a plea, but I'm guessing since he's charged with felony battery (1 year minimum to 5 years max in the pokey), his best bet is to plead guilty to a misdemeanor battery and that still carries up to 6 months in jail. But with the video, why would prosecutors plead down to the misdemeanor outside of the goodness of their hearts??
Given the video evidence showing without a shadow of a doubt that he did in fact assault this dude and there was no self defense possibilities, I cannot see a path where he doesn't end up being guilty of something and it'll be entirely up to the judge, and his sentencing, regardless of the plea bargain possibilities as to how long, or if, he serves time. I certainly would not want this to go to trial and force that judge to sit through some dog and pony show which might antagonize him into giving the max sentence.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

The surveillance video is out there, sitting on youtube, unless there a second one out there I'm not aware of?

I would have to imagine his lawyers and the prosecutors are in negotiations for a plea, surely angling to avoid jail time, but with the video, they don't have much leverage, so they're trying to position the trial/length/sentencing/and probable jail time to be in the offseason. Problem is, even with a plea bargain, the judge doesn't have to abide by the sentencing suggested in the bargain and that potential jail time could be worse than anticipated. I can't imagine the prosecutors haven't offered a plea, but I'm guessing since he's charged with felony battery (1 year minimum to 5 years max in the pokey), his best bet is to plead guilty to a misdemeanor battery and that still carries up to 6 months in jail. But with the video, why would prosecutors plead down to the misdemeanor outside of the goodness of their hearts??
Given the video evidence showing without a shadow of a doubt that he did in fact assault this dude and there was no self defense possibilities, I cannot see a path where he doesn't end up being guilty of something and it'll be entirely up to the judge, and his sentencing, regardless of the plea bargain possibilities as to how long, or if, he serves time. I certainly would not want this to go to trial and force that judge to sit through some dog and pony show which might antagonize him into giving the max sentence.

Got a link for the video? I thought I remembered seein it some time ago, but it appears to be gone?

Misdemeanor assault can avoid jail time if I'm not mistaken? But you're right... No reason for prosecutors to plead down unless there is some sort of deal to compensate the victim that won't be reported lol.

But the fact remains, if this goes to trial then the case could go into January.

 

[TREFF]

Got a link for the video? I thought I remembered seein it some time ago, but it appears to be gone?

Misdemeanor assault can avoid jail time if I'm not mistaken? But you're right... No reason for prosecutors to plead down unless there is some sort of deal to compensate the victim that won't be reported lol.

But the fact remains, if this goes to trial then the case could go into January.

Well, I guess they may have taken it down, but I know that's where I watched it right after it happened, and if UT was out there for multiple days, it's still out there somewhere, might just have to know how/where to look..and I'm not that saavy

And yeah, you can get the DA to agree to not request jail time in a place bargain, but the judge has no obligation to abide by that bargain. They usually do, but, do you take that chance? Guess it depends on your confidence in the alternative of a trial.

 

[averagejoe]

Not saying this is the plan, or the legalities of it, but a guy with Kamara's $$$.... a re-election donation for the judge/party coupled with a nice OOC settlement with the victim accused is not out of the question.

 

[TREFF]

Not saying this is the plan, or the legalities of it, but a guy with Kamara's $$$.... a re-election donation for the judge/party coupled with a nice OOC settlement with the victim accused is not out of the question.

hahaha..nope it sure isn't..I'd love to see the bribery of a judge get tacked onto the whole thing though!

 

[femurov]

DAMIEN HARRISRB, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

SI's Albert Breer believes the Patriots could entertain the idea of trading contract-year RB Damien Harris.​

As Breer notes, Rhamondre Stevenson has established himself worthy of being the starter, and the Patriots have a stable of running backs behind both Stevenson and Harris. They signed Ty Montgomery, James White and J.J. Taylor remain on the roster, and New England drafted Pierre Strong and Kevin Harris. There's zero chance all these guys make the 53-man roster. Harris is likely to walk as a free agent in 2023, so if the Patriots feel comfortable enough with the younger guys, flipping Harris to an RB-needy team could make some sense. A Harris trade would absolutely skyrocket Stevenson's fantasy stock.





@TREFF

 

[HaroldSeattle]

DAMIEN HARRISRB, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

SI's Albert Breer believes the Patriots could entertain the idea of trading contract-year RB Damien Harris.​

As Breer notes, Rhamondre Stevenson has established himself worthy of being the starter, and the Patriots have a stable of running backs behind both Stevenson and Harris. They signed Ty Montgomery, James White and J.J. Taylor remain on the roster, and New England drafted Pierre Strong and Kevin Harris. There's zero chance all these guys make the 53-man roster. Harris is likely to walk as a free agent in 2023, so if the Patriots feel comfortable enough with the younger guys, flipping Harris to an RB-needy team could make some sense. A Harris trade would absolutely skyrocket Stevenson's fantasy stock.





@TREFF

Treff instantly gives his love of this idea. LOL

 

[TREFF]

DAMIEN HARRISRB, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

SI's Albert Breer believes the Patriots could entertain the idea of trading contract-year RB Damien Harris.​

As Breer notes, Rhamondre Stevenson has established himself worthy of being the starter, and the Patriots have a stable of running backs behind both Stevenson and Harris. They signed Ty Montgomery, James White and J.J. Taylor remain on the roster, and New England drafted Pierre Strong and Kevin Harris. There's zero chance all these guys make the 53-man roster. Harris is likely to walk as a free agent in 2023, so if the Patriots feel comfortable enough with the younger guys, flipping Harris to an RB-needy team could make some sense. A Harris trade would absolutely skyrocket Stevenson's fantasy stock.





@TREFF

There would be precious few rhings football related that could make me happier than this coming true. But who's gonna trade for a RB? Melvin Gordon had to settle for a backup role in Denver and no one would've had to give up anything to get him.

Takes 2 to do the trade tango, and who still needs a REAL RB? (Spoiler alert- the same teams who needed one going into the draft)
And who has an actual reason to deal value for one?
ATL, HOUS, MIA they sorely need one, none have a viable reason to trade anything of value for a RB with one year on his deal. They are in no danger of realistically competing for the playoffs.

Would KC finally admit thier collection of underachievers is a failed experiment?

NO would have a need and a reason if shit hits the fan with Kamara sooner than later.

IMHO, the Rams would be well served by a guy like Harris, ciz I still don't buy Akers and his achillies.

I can't think of anyone else, baring a real serious contender having a guy go down to injury.


Same applies to the Josh Jacobs rumors, even if they really were trying to trade him, who will dance with them?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

There would be precious few rhings football related that could make me happier than this coming true. But who's gonna trade for a RB? Melvin Gordon had to settle for a backup role in Denver and no one would've had to give up anything to get him.

Takes 2 to do the trade tango, and who still needs a REAL RB? (Spoiler alert- the same teams who needed one going into the draft)
And who has an actual reason to deal value for one?
ATL, HOUS, MIA they sorely need one, none have a viable reason to trade anything of value for a RB with one year on his deal. They are in no danger of realistically competing for the playoffs.

Would KC finally admit thier collection of underachievers is a failed experiment?

NO would have a need and a reason if shit hits the fan with Kamara sooner than later.

IMHO, the Rams would be well served by a guy like Harris, ciz I still don't buy Akers and his achillies.

I can't think of anyone else, baring a real serious contender having a guy go down to injury.


Same applies to the Josh Jacobs rumors, even if they really were trying to trade him, who will dance with them?

Yeah finding someone to tango with is the hard part. How about the Cardinals. They seem all in and could use Harris I feel.

 

[TKOSpikes]

There would be precious few rhings football related that could make me happier than this coming true. But who's gonna trade for a RB? Melvin Gordon had to settle for a backup role in Denver and no one would've had to give up anything to get him.

Takes 2 to do the trade tango, and who still needs a REAL RB? (Spoiler alert- the same teams who needed one going into the draft)
And who has an actual reason to deal value for one?
ATL, HOUS, MIA they sorely need one, none have a viable reason to trade anything of value for a RB with one year on his deal. They are in no danger of realistically competing for the playoffs.

Would KC finally admit thier collection of underachievers is a failed experiment?

NO would have a need and a reason if shit hits the fan with Kamara sooner than later.

IMHO, the Rams would be well served by a guy like Harris, ciz I still don't buy Akers and his achillies.

I can't think of anyone else, baring a real serious contender having a guy go down to injury.


Same applies to the Josh Jacobs rumors, even if they really were trying to trade him, who will dance with them?

I was gonna say this … in much less detail and specifics. I prefer your analysis.

Falcons and Texans have no reason to trade for him. They both have rookie RB’s worth a look and are in no danger of competing this year.

Dolphins are in play for the division/wild card though, but I’d say no chance for this trade after they moved on Edmonds and Mostert. Even if one could argue he’s better than all three, no way they shuffle the deck. This argument could also be used for KC.

Saints could have issues, but I doubt they move on that before they know what’s up with Kamara. October trade? Doubt it…are the Saints contenders?

I’d say the Chargers could look at him, depending on how Spiller looks. Good reason to have proven insurance behind/beside Ekeler.

Giants, less reason to do it…not Falcons/Texans less, but unlikely they make a playoff run. But they’re the only other team and can even pretend to make a case.

 

[wilwhite]

There would be precious few rhings football related that could make me happier than this coming true. But who's gonna trade for a RB? Melvin Gordon had to settle for a backup role in Denver and no one would've had to give up anything to get him.

Takes 2 to do the trade tango, and who still needs a REAL RB? (Spoiler alert- the same teams who needed one going into the draft)
And who has an actual reason to deal value for one?
ATL, HOUS, MIA they sorely need one, none have a viable reason to trade anything of value for a RB with one year on his deal. They are in no danger of realistically competing for the playoffs.

Would KC finally admit thier collection of underachievers is a failed experiment?

NO would have a need and a reason if shit hits the fan with Kamara sooner than later.

IMHO, the Rams would be well served by a guy like Harris, ciz I still don't buy Akers and his achillies.

I can't think of anyone else, baring a real serious contender having a guy go down to injury.


Same applies to the Josh Jacobs rumors, even if they really were trying to trade him, who will dance with them?

Saints/Steelers, if they think they can compete. Both thin when you get past the #1 guy.

 

[TREFF]

Saints/Steelers, if they think they can compete. Both thin when you get past the #1 guy.

But do you trade for an insurance policy? I guess maybe, depending on the price? And with Trubisky or the rookie, in a division with Lamar and the Ravens, Burrows and the Bengals, and (maybe) Watson and the Browns, do they really have a shot at a wild card? Be a tough row to hoe.

 

[TREFF]

I was gonna say this … in much less detail and specifics. I prefer your analysis.

Falcons and Texans have no reason to trade for him. They both have rookie RB’s worth a look and are in no danger of competing this year.

Dolphins are in play for the division/wild card though, but I’d say no chance for this trade after they moved on Edmonds and Mostert. Even if one could argue he’s better than all three, no way they shuffle the deck. This argument could also be used for KC.

Saints could have issues, but I doubt they move on that before they know what’s up with Kamara. October trade? Doubt it…are the Saints contenders?

I’d say the Chargers could look at him, depending on how Spiller looks. Good reason to have proven insurance behind/beside Ekeler.

Giants, less reason to do it…not Falcons/Texans less, but unlikely they make a playoff run. But they’re the only other team and can even pretend to make a case.

Cards crossed my mind as well, wouldn't be a terrible idea to at least tandem with Conners, dude does have a history of missing a lot of time.

 

[wilwhite]

But do you trade for an insurance policy? I guess maybe, depending on the price? And with Trubisky or the rookie, in a division with Lamar and the Ravens, Burrows and the Bengals, and (maybe) Watson and the Browns, do they really have a shot at a wild card? Be a tough row to hoe.

Tomlin will not go gently into the good night of a 7-10 season.

 

[TREFF]

Tomlin will not go gently into the good night of a 7-10 season.

Well if he didn't want to go that road, maybe he should've pushed a little harder for Mayfield, or Garrapolo to bridge to the rook, or maybe even RW. Gonna need a OG style Steel Curtain D to make the playoffs with Trubs

 

[wilwhite]

Well if he didn't want to go that road, maybe he should've pushed a little harder for Mayfield, or Garrapolo to bridge to the rook, or maybe even RW. Gonna need a OG style Steel Curtain D to make the playoffs with Trubs

Trubisky's per-game numbers are about the same as Ben's numbers last year (but not as many attempts). And he went 29-21 on a Bears team that went 4-10 without him.

If it's ground and pound you shouldn't put it all on Najee. Tomlin could use another horse back there.

(No way the Browns were letting the Steelers get Mayfield if they could help it.)

 

[TKOSpikes]

Latavius was visiting with the Steelers, I thought. Haven’t heard anything so probably nothing came of it.