Eli Manning, the HOF, and my long standing Jim Plunkett comparisom

[Rock Strongo]

lmao @DirtDirtDirt

they reference jim plunkett when talking about eli not going to canton.

Who's out
Eli Manning, QB[/paste:font]
Résumé at a glance:

• No. 1 overall pick by Chargers in 2004 (traded to Giants); has played 14 seasons (Giants)
  
  
• Four Pro Bowls, two-time Super Bowl MVP (2007 and 2011)
  
  
• 339 passing TDs (eighth all time)
  
  
• 51,682 passing yards (sixth all time)
  
  
• 49,754 yards of total offense (seventh all time)
  
  
• Started 210 consecutive games from 2004 to '17

The HOF case for Manning: The list of players who have won multiple Super Bowl MVPs is exclusive. It's Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Terry Bradshaw and ... Eli Manning. Talk about elite company. This is what makes Manning's career special. His playoff performances are legendary in those two playoff runs, when he threw 15 touchdown passes and two interceptions. He took down the Packers (once with Brett Favre, once with Aaron Rodgers) and the big, bad Patriots with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick twice. Also, Manning will finish his career in the top 10 of pretty much every major statistical category as he enters his 15th season as the Giants' starter. There have been ups and downs throughout his career, especially early and in the regular season, but Manning's overall résumé is impressive, especially in the postseason. -- Jordan Raanan, Giants reporter

The verdict: 2 votes

The HOF debate for Eli will be fiery, but Manning's four Pro Bowl appearances will pale in comparison to his peers, and his career interceptions (228) will weigh heavily in the discussion as well. It's also important to note that he and Ben Roethlisberger, who was also drafted in 2004 and has two Super Bowl titles, will likely be considered at roughly the same time, so that will potentially split some votes among the Hall's board of selectors. Ultimately, the voters will be asked if Manning was one of the best quarterbacks in an era of Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers and Roethlisberger. He could find himself the Jim Plunkett of his time, with two Super Bowl rings, a pretty good argument and no gold jacket. -- Legwold

 

[Rock Strongo]

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

He'll probably get in because 'Manning' and 2x Super Bowls... but he's a modern day Matt Hasselbeck who required a great pass rush/defense, and the best catch of all time in a Super Bowl to win.

 

[Rock Strongo]

He'll probably get in because 'Manning' and 2x Super Bowls... but he's a modern day Matt Hasselbeck who required a great pass rush/defense, and the best catch of all time in a Super Bowl to win.

this is a good read:

Hall of Fame bubble watch: Our picks for 10 top NFL debates

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

Oh goody, this discussion again

 

[Rock Strongo]

Oh goody, this discussion again

you remember me getting laughed at for my eli/plunkett comparison at cbs?

this forced me to text dirt lol

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

you remember me getting laughed at for my eli/plunkett comparison at cbs?

this forced me to text dirt lol

Yeah, I member

 

[eaglesnut]

Undefeated against Brady when it matters.

If Eli doesn't get in then Tom wasn't the greatest.

Pretty simple.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Undefeated against Brady when it matters.

If Eli doesn't get in then Tom wasn't the greatest.

Pretty simple.

oooook

 

[eaglesnut]

oooook

Eli is throwing 200 more TDs and 25,000 more yards than Plunkett.

This is retarded, Rock.

Truly pathetically dumb and I see even you are claiming that only your past self was stupid enough to really argue it.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Eli is throwing 200 more TDs and 25,000 more yards than Plunkett.

This is retarded, Rock.

Truly pathetically dumb and I see even you are claiming that only your past self was stupid enough to really argue it.

all true (but the retarded part), but if you dont consider eras its kinda silly. 2/3 of his career was in the 70's, and he was blessed with a great offensive line in NE (thats sarcasm btw)

20+ INT seasons

Eli - 3 (lead the NFL 3 times)
plunkett - 2 (both with shit NE teams, never lead the NFL)

again, consider eras on both sides of the equation.

both guys have 2 rings as starters.

 

[nynasty]

Still pissed, eh?

 

[nynasty]

He'll probably get in because 'Manning' and 2x Super Bowls... but he's a modern day Matt Hasselbeck who required a great pass rush/defense, and the best catch of all time in a Super Bowl to win.

Which one, Tyree or Manningham?

 

[Manster7588]

Undefeated against Brady when it matters.

If Eli doesn't get in then Tom wasn't the greatest.

Pretty simple.

Sarcasm? I do hope so.

 

[night]

I don't see how a guy who wasn't even close to the best QB in his own era could possibly make it in.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Which one, Tyree or Manningham?

Stop trolling @nynasty... I'll kick your ass, man.

 

[eaglesnut]

I don't see how a guy who wasn't even close to the best QB in his own era could possibly make it in.

We're gonna get like 5. QBs are better now. Eli has thrown a ton of touchdowns.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Which one, Tyree or Manningham?

Exactly

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I don't see how a guy who wasn't even close to the best QB in his own era could possibly make it in.

Name recognition and the NY media, it's pretty simple actually.

 

[night]

Name recognition and the NY media, it's pretty simple actually.

It cheapens the HoF if it's just a participation trophy. If that's the bar then Foles is a shoe in.