Down on the Farm (2022)

[LHG]

Isn’t Beria a decent-ish prospect? At least we fill an organizational need of middling infielder, though.

Berroa is 22 years old and made 4 starts for Eugene. In those 4 starts, he struck out 16 batters in 13.1 innings pitched, walked 6 and gave up a mere 5 hits and 1 run.
Walton, meanwhile, is a 28 year old middle infielder (of course!) who has slashed .196/.260/.315 in 92 ABs across 4 big league seasons. The up side is that he's hit .302/.391/.518 in 334 ABs across 2 AAA seasons.
My mind is blown on the exchange. Sure, Walton finds an FZ fetish. Older 20 something middle infielder who hasn't done a thing in the big leagues but could still has some potential. But trading off a young pitcher off to a hot start?!?! Has FZ gone mad?

 

[stanford the manford]

Once FZ has completed cornering the market on all nondescript infielders, the rest of the league will be at his mercy. They're a dime a dozen until you have a dozen, then the worth is $1.20. Lose on every trade, but make it up in volume, that's ticket

 

[calsnowskier]

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Hasnt done Jack in the bigs, but his minor league numbers look very nice.

 

[LHG]

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Hasnt done Jack in the bigs, but his minor league numbers look very nice.

But are those numbers, and his age, worth a 22 year old decent pitching prospect? Knee jerk says no but, as you all point out so often, FZ may know more than we do. However, this is also FZ's weakness - middle infielders.

 

[calsnowskier]

But are those numbers, and his age, worth a 22 year old decent pitching prospect? Knee jerk says no but, as you all point out so often, FZ may know more than we do. However, this is also FZ's weakness - middle infielders.

Beria is 22. That means he has to stay in the oven for another 3 years at least before you even check his temp to gauge how much longer he needs to cook.

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[LHG]

Beria is 22. That means he has to stay in the oven for another 3 years at least before you even check his temp to gauge how much longer he needs to cook.

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I could see him in the big leagues as quickly as 2 years from now. He could earn a promotion to AA sometime midseason and, if he does well to start 2023 in AA, could be in AAA by the end of that year. Depending on his performance and who is blocking him, 2024 isn't unreasonable a possibility for a chance at least in the bullpen.
Of course, he could wither in the next month, get stuck in high A ball and never even see AAA.

 

[calsnowskier]

I could see him in the big leagues as quickly as 2 years from now. He could earn a promotion to AA sometime midseason and, if he does well to start 2023 in AA, could be in AAA by the end of that year. Depending on his performance and who is blocking him, 2024 isn't unreasonable a possibility for a chance at least in the bullpen.
Of course, he could wither in the next month, get stuck in high A ball and never even see AAA.

Not like we all thought Tyler Herb was the next Bumgarner or anything, but he was somewhat highly viewed (as a potential 4/5 starter or swing man). We traded him to Baltimore for an older OF “prospect” who had never really shown anything and wasn’t kicking in any doors.

Herb is still waiting for his Cuppo and is now in his 3rd organization since leaving us. The outfielder is now one of our few non-platoon starters.

I kinda like Walton’s minor league numbers, but I am, at the end of the day, completely clueless about his outlook. Berroa has been noticed by our prospect hounds, but also, little is actually known outside of his name.

I will trust FZ. Until the trade proves to be a bad one, in which case I will throw him under the bus and claim I knew better all along.

 

[LHG]

Not like we all thought Tyler Herb was the next Bumgarner or anything, but he was somewhat highly viewed (as a potential 4/5 starter or swing man). We traded him to Baltimore for an older OF “prospect” who had never really shown anything and wasn’t kicking in any doors.

Herb is still waiting for his Cuppo and is now in his 3rd organization since leaving us. The outfielder is now one of our few non-platoon starters.

I kinda like Walton’s minor league numbers, but I am, at the end of the day, completely clueless about his outlook. Berroa has been noticed by our prospect hounds, but also, little is actually known outside of his name.

I will trust FZ. Until the trade proves to be a bad one, in which case I will throw him under the bus and claim I knew better all along.

Well, I'm going to claim to know better now and then, if the trade works out poorly for the Mariners (or well for the Giants), claim that I trusted FZ all along. It should be pointed out that the shelf life on these middle infielders he acquires is fairly short. If the Mariners get one decent half season out of Berroa, it will likely be a poor trade for the Giants.
There are differences between Berroa and Herb. Herb never showed much prior to that one season in Richmond and was already scuffling when he was shipped to the Orioles (I'm actually surprised he's still in organized baseball). He was also a bit of an older prospect. At the time of the trade, I don't think Herb was as highly valued at that time as Berroa is now.

 

[tzill]

Looks like Seth Corry is done for the year, with surgery on his throwing shoulder.

Poor bastard can't catch a health break.

 

[calsnowskier]

Looks like Seth Corry is done for the year, with surgery on his throwing shoulder.

Poor bastard can't catch a health break.

Remember when he was a top 10 Giants prospect?


Yeah, that was cool.

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[LHG]

Looks like Seth Corry is done for the year, with surgery on his throwing shoulder.

Poor bastard can't catch a health break.

Remember when he was a top 10 Giants prospect?


Yeah, that was cool.

Spoiler

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Prospects are so fragile. Hope he is healthy in 2023 and starts to live up to his potential.

 

[LHG]

Giants recently signed a 27 year old pitcher out of indy ball and assigned him to San Jose.
Apparently he played a French league. No idea that France had organized baseball.

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[Stokes1931]

Giants recently signed a 27 year old pitcher out of indy ball and assigned him to San Jose.
Apparently he played a French league. No idea that France had organized baseball.

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Take one: He's 6' 5", so maybe he's been signed for the Giants' hoops team in the off season.

Take two: maybe they want to convert him to a middle infielder

 

[Sandisfan]

Take one: He's 6' 5", so maybe he's been signed for the Giants' hoops team in the off season.

Take two: maybe they want to convert him to a middle infielder

Obviously as a Shortstop.

 

[tzill]

 

[calsnowskier]

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They were talking about him on Murphy & Mac this AM. They mentioned that he has been upped to a top 50 prospect in all of the game on one of the lists (I forget which one they mentioned).

 

[calsnowskier]

And MAYBE he could be the one to replace Cobb, referencing a convo I had with @LHG in another thread (though I do not think we are anywhere near bailing on Cobb yet).

 

[Stokes1931]

Villar 3-3 tonight with his 15th home run.

Hjelle with a strong 5 innings with 1 run allowed.

Ramos 2-3

 

[Stokes1931]

On another note, who in the hell decided that High A should be the former NW League? They are having multiple rainouts every week. This is NOT a way to develop your High A players for sure.

 

[LHG]

Here are the stand out performances in May:

AAA - Batters (minimum 25 PAs)
Isan Diaz - .231/.342/.554 (76 PAs)
David Villar - .296/.444/.761 (90 PAs)
Austin Dean - .266/.309/.594 (68 PAs)
Kevin Padlo - .254/.302/.593 (63 PAs)
AAA - Pitchers (minimum 3 IPs - because the performances were pretty bad all around, and I wanted at least 3 guys to list here)
Enmanuel de Jesus - 6 starts, 27.1 IP, 2.30 ERA, 1.17 WHIP, 12.2 K/9
Mauricio Llovera - 4 relief appearances, 3.1 IP, 0.00 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, 16.2 K/9
Yunior Marte - 6 relief appearances, 5.1 IP, 0.00 ERA, 0.75 WHIP, 10.1 K/9

AA - Batters (minimum 25 PAs)
Rob Emery - .273/.365/.523 (52 PAs)
Brandon Martorano - .275/.372/.575 (94 PAs)
Shane Matheny - .329/.420/.629 (81 PAs) (I hope he's not taking performance enhancing drugs because this performance is out of nowhere!)
Frankie Tostado - .323/.370/.566 (108 PAs) (someone needs a promotion to AAA!)
Franklin Labour - .194/.350/.613 (40 PAs)
AA - Pitchers (minimum 5 IPs)
RJ Dabovich - 8 relief appearances, 10.1 IP, 3.48 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, 13.1 K/9
Trenton Toplikar - 6 relief appearances, 7.2, IP, 2.35 ERA, 0.91 WHIP, 10.6 K/9
Kyle Harrison - 1 start, 5.2 IP, 3.18 ERA, 1.24 WHIP, 14.3 K/9

High A - Batters (minimum 25 PAs)
Carter Aldrete - .257/.333/.586 (81 PAs)
Patrick Bailey - .265/.351/.510 (57 PAs)
Marco Luciano - .270/.357/.473 (84 PAs)
Casey Schmitt - .313/.413/.537 (80 PAs)
High A - Pitchers (minimum 5 IPs)
Nick Avila - 8 relief appearances, 7.1 IP, 2.45 ERA, 1.36 WHIP, 8.6 K/9
Mason Black - 1 start, 6 IP, 1.50 ERA, 1.00 WHIP, 15 K/9
Kyle Harrison - 3 starts, 14 IP, 0.00 ERA, 0.93 WHIP, 17.4 K/9 (!)
Clay Helvey - 6 relief appearances, 9 IP, 0.00 ERA, 0.33 WHIP (!), 16 K/9
Ryan Murphy - 3 starts, 11 IP, 3.27, 1.18 WHIP, 14.7 K/9
Brett Standlee - 5 relief appearances, 9.2 IP, 1.86 ERA, 0.93 WHIP, 11.2 K/9
Nick Swiney - 3 starts, 13 IP, 2.77 ERA, 0.77 WHIP, 12.5 K/9
Cole Waites - 5 relief appearances, 4.2 IP, 0.00 ERA, 0.64 WHIP, 15.4 K/9

Low A - Batters (minimum 25 PAs)
Aeverson Arteaga - .304/.349/.520 (109 PAs)
Victor Bericoto - .350/.429/.525 (91 PAs)
Vaun Brown - .448/.538/.885 (!) (104 PAs) (he's turning 24 this month, move him up to Eugene!)
Najee Gaskins - .300/.446/.400 (67 PAs) (also a 24 year old OF who needs a higher level of competition)
Grant McCray - .327/.410/.607 (122 PAs)
Alexander Suarez - .244/.308/.533 (52 PAs) (just promote the entire outfield to Eugene! None of the outfielders there are producing)
Low A - Pitchers (minimum 5 IPs)
Mason Black - 4 starts, 19.2 IP, 0.00 ERA, 0.76 WHIP, 10.1 K/9
Jose Cruz - 6 relief appearances, 6 IP, 0.00 ERA, 0.50 WHIP, 21 K/9 (!)
Evan Gates - 6 relief appearances, 7.2 IP, 1.17 ERA, 0.65 WHIP, 12.9 K/9 (not sure why he was demoted in April. Pitched well in Eugene too)
Tyler Myrick - 6 relief appearances, 5.2 IP, 3.18 ERA, 1.06 WHIP, 6.4 K/9
Mat Olsen - 4 relief appearances, 7.1 IP, 0.00 ERA, 0.41 WHIP, 13.5 K/9
Julio Rodriguez - 6 relief appearances, 6.2 IP, 2.70 ERA, 1.50 WHIP, 18.9 K/9 (!)
Eric Silva - 5 starts, 22 IP, 3.27 ERA, 0.95 WHIP, 10.6 K/9