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Does ESPN ever get enough of the Lakers???

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Now, narrow that down to who was actually available and/or made sense. Redick was not leaving the Sixers for a one year deal. KCP was part of the package deal for Lebron (and Hood SUCKED for the Cavs), they let Lopez and Frye go intentionally, Rondo was a better signing than Parker, Stauskas ended up on the scrap heap, Ed Davis is just a rebounder and not better than McGee, Mbah Moute LOL, Jeff Green LOL. Randle wanted out. So, we're down to guys like Belinelli, Casspi, Connaughton, Curry, Ellington, and maybe Rose (who ended up missing 30+ games). Curry and Connaughton ended up blowing up, would've been solid moves. The others? Meh.

Even the choices that had good years would only have looked good in retrospect; had the Lakers' choices to surround Lebron been Connaughton and Ellington, everyone would've laughed and said the Lakers were settling for lesser talent.
I mean, why not just sign Nik Stauskas to stand in the corner and garner attention and be a poor man's Kyle Korver? No one could play off him. He singlehandedly stuck it to your Lakers one game last season by just shooting 3's. That kind of spacing a shit bag like Stauskas gives you when you have LeBron on the court is SO important. Even Frye.

Those guys are NOT good- but they fit with LeBron, are good team guys, and would ACTUALLY HELP---- instead of someone like Beasley who was a half-tard who added nothing.

Lopez ESPECIALLY would have helped. Jeff Green would have been a GREAT pickup. Curry would have been PRECISELY the type of young/cheap guy that would have been a good gamble to take instead of giving 5 million to Lance freaking Stephenson.

you or me could have done an infinitely better job.
 

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LOL, but look at Lonzo's FT%!!!! He attempted 48 last season!
do you think thats because of a small sample size or do you think thats because he has an awful shot, and everyone that has ever watched him play or scouted him (whether college or pro) has acknowledged that he has a broken shot that needs, if not a major overhaul, significant significant improvement.
 

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I mean, why not just sign Nik Stauskas to stand in the corner and garner attention and be a poor man's Kyle Korver? No one could play off him. He singlehandedly stuck it to your Lakers one game last season by just shooting 3's. That kind of spacing a shit bag like Stauskas gives you when you have LeBron on the court is SO important. Even Frye.

Those guys are NOT good- but they fit with LeBron, are good team guys, and would ACTUALLY HELP---- instead of someone like Beasley who was a half-tard who added nothing.

Lopez ESPECIALLY would have helped. Jeff Green would have been a GREAT pickup. Curry would have been PRECISELY the type of young/cheap guy that would have been a good gamble to take instead of giving 5 million to Lance freaking Stephenson.

you or me could have done an infinitely better job.

Lopez hurts as much on pick and roll defense as he helps with 3s. He's a net liability and it was painful watching him last year. Props to Lopez for improving with the Bucks, for what that's worth. Stauskas was so good (34% from 3) that the Blazers dumped him on the Cavs to take a chance on Rodney Hood, who's value had bottomed out. Jeff Green? Another 34% 3 point shooter for the Wiz that plays Lebron's position. Channing Frye LOL? He played in 36 games, less than 10 minutes/game for the tanking Cavs.

Stop bringing up crap Cavs rejects. The only player of note you have mentioned was Curry, and I don't remember the circumstances around him last summer. He was basically a 3pt shooter that provided nothing else however. In 19 minutes per game, he averaged 1.6 reb, .9 assists, and 6.3 shots. He would've helped space the floor, sure. But at what cost defensively, or the offense overall?
 

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do you think thats because of a small sample size or do you think thats because he has an awful shot, and everyone that has ever watched him play or scouted him (whether college or pro) has acknowledged that he has a broken shot that needs, if not a major overhaul, significant significant improvement.

He needs none of the above. He needs confidence and repetition. That same form got him 67.3% on 2.7 attempts per game at UCLA. The FT line isn't any closer in college.
 

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I don't think ESPN spends too much time on the Lakers
-Tiger Woods
 

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Lopez hurts as much on pick and roll defense as he helps with 3s. He's a net liability and it was painful watching him last year. Props to Lopez for improving with the Bucks, for what that's worth. Stauskas was so good (34% from 3) that the Blazers dumped him on the Cavs to take a chance on Rodney Hood, who's value had bottomed out. Jeff Green? Another 34% 3 point shooter for the Wiz that plays Lebron's position. Channing Frye LOL? He played in 36 games, less than 10 minutes/game for the tanking Cavs.

Stop bringing up crap Cavs rejects. The only player of note you have mentioned was Curry, and I don't remember the circumstances around him last summer. He was basically a 3pt shooter that provided nothing else however. In 19 minutes per game, he averaged 1.6 reb, .9 assists, and 6.3 shots. He would've helped space the floor, sure. But at what cost defensively, or the offense overall?
you still do not get it.

guys like Beasley and Stephenson and McGee and Rondo- that are not good fit, and not good team guys.

A guy like Jefferson for the Cavs was HARDLY a good player anymore- he was mostly washed up- but he was a good team guy that could make a 3--- and surprise surprise, when you put those type of guys around LeBron- there efficiency goes up!!!! something tells me Nik Stauskas is PROBABLY a little bit better of a shooter with LeBron James initating the offense and spacing then if Colin Sexton is doing it.

Same with Brook Lopez- which, the deicison to sign Beasley instead of was just inexlicably dumb. The Lakers own coaching staff was saying this stuff and saying that guys were playing selfishly and wondering why they were signing head cases that couldnt shoot isntead of just normal guys.

A guy like Jeff Green that actually had some really solid showings with the Cavs the previous season- a veteran who is a good team guy that knows what he is doing- is so uch more valuble than a head case that plays for himself.

The Lakers front office just had zero clue on how to build a roster 1-15. As I have said- anyone with a small amountof NBA common sense could have done a better job.
 

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you still do not get it.

guys like Beasley and Stephenson and McGee and Rondo- that are not good fit, and not good team guys.

A guy like Jefferson for the Cavs was HARDLY a good player anymore- he was mostly washed up- but he was a good team guy that could make a 3--- and surprise surprise, when you put those type of guys around LeBron- there efficiency goes up!!!! something tells me Nik Stauskas is PROBABLY a little bit better of a shooter with LeBron James initating the offense and spacing then if Colin Sexton is doing it.

Same with Brook Lopez- which, the deicison to sign Beasley instead of was just inexlicably dumb. The Lakers own coaching staff was saying this stuff and saying that guys were playing selfishly and wondering why they were signing head cases that couldnt shoot isntead of just normal guys.

A guy like Jeff Green that actually had some really solid showings with the Cavs the previous season- a veteran who is a good team guy that knows what he is doing- is so uch more valuble than a head case that plays for himself.

The Lakers front office just had zero clue on how to build a roster 1-15. As I have said- anyone with a small amountof NBA common sense could have done a better job.

Beasley was one of the last signings they made, a what the hell, why not shot in the dark with their last bit of cap space. He was an end of the bench guy that played in 26 games for about 10 minutes per. Shot nearly 50%, 7 pts and 2.3 reb in that time, but was never going to spread the floor.

If you love these other ex Cavs so much, you can have them. The Lakers went with guys that were playmakers, to try a different tactic around Lebron and allow him to play off the ball. He didn't play along with that very well.

What's funny is that the guy most people had a problem with at the time (McGee) turned out to be the best of the bunch and potentially a keeper for this season (depending on cap space during free agency).
 

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LOL, but look at Lonzo's FT%!!!! He attempted 48 last season!

For a guard to shoot 40% on FT is just embarrassing. The facr you are using this as an example it’s sad. It’s fucking FT’s and he is a guard. Shoot in the 60’s at least :L
 

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Beasley was one of the last signings they made, a what the hell, why not shot in the dark with their last bit of cap space. He was an end of the bench guy that played in 26 games for about 10 minutes per. Shot nearly 50%, 7 pts and 2.3 reb in that time, but was never going to spread the floor.

If you love these other ex Cavs so much, you can have them. The Lakers went with guys that were playmakers, to try a different tactic around Lebron and allow him to play off the ball. He didn't play along with that very well.

What's funny is that the guy most people had a problem with at the time (McGee) turned out to be the best of the bunch and potentially a keeper for this season (depending on cap space during free agency).

Why? There lies the problem. Lebron has teammates that specifically work well with him, guys that can spread the floor and the Lakers knowingly do the opposite. That's what we are talking about, they did a poor job when they could have went with a formula that has worked time and time again. The Lakers did a poor job, plain and simple.
 

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For a guard to shoot 40% on FT is just embarrassing. The facr you are using this as an example it’s sad. It’s fucking FT’s and he is a guard. Shoot in the 60’s at least :L

He does shoot in the 60s with more volume, as evidenced in his UCLA stats. 2 attempts every 2 games is extreme rarity for a starter.
 

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Why? There lies the problem. Lebron has teammates that specifically work well with him, guys that can spread the floor and the Lakers knowingly do the opposite. That's what we are talking about, they did a poor job when they could have went with a formula that has worked time and time again. The Lakers did a poor job, plain and simple.

Because the space-the-floor options were either questionable or not available.
 

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Trade Ball for another top 7-8 pick to add to the offer and if needed, get a 3rd team involved.....
 

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AGAIN, name the free agents the Lakers were supposed to sign last summer that would've made all this difference once George, Durant, and trading for Kawhi were off the table. It's easy to say they should've done better without naming any players were actually available via free agency at the time.
Jeff Green would have been a better pickup for them. How about their own guy - Lopez?
 
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