Detroit Tigers Ongoing 2015 Thread

[MiamiVice]

Next year's bullpen in AAA is going to be interesting... I am betting on Ver Hagen, Farmer, Voelker, Ferrell, and Robertson being the main guys there.. I would love to see Verhagen close with Voelker set up... Voelker is a stud that nobody is talking about... I think Verhagen is a future closer if he can get his walk rate down. He only started throwing out of the bullpen about 7 months ago.. I would assume we see him in Detroit most of next season but start off in AAA unless he just forces his way in.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

I don't care if he misses a few weeks.

this concerns me if it were to happen and it's Sanchez again

I honestly am not worried at all about seeing Boyd or Lobstein make a start or two..

I can live with a start or two. Neither are Smily. I liked him a lot.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Boyd started last year in AA and only made one start in AAA before getting called up to the bigs... He was frustrating when he was up because he showed flashes of potential.. but to honest and fair.. you can't judge the kid on his first couple of MLB starts...

This is so true. I'm can be patient to a degree. I've stated all along when talking to Smitty over the summer that my belief was that instructors and pitching coaches either had their heads up their asses for years (we all have witnessed Stl., TB, Oak, Atl develop pitchers on a consistent basis but not in Det ?) or the scouts missed on the vast majority... I'm not buying into the latter but it'posssible.. highly unlikely but possible

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Ilitch is clearly getting antsy

If Illitch was getting antsy then Chapman would've been a done deal right along with Greinke, Cespedes or Gordon and another SP not named Pelfrey.

 

[MiamiVice]

this concerns me if it were to happen and it's Sanchez again



I can live with a start or two. Neither are Smily. I liked him a lot.

Boyd is actually very similiar to Smyly. I doubt he is ever going to be an ace.. but Boyd most certainly could be a decent back of the rotation starter.. His biggest problem last year was leaving pitches over the plate way to much.. which is why he gave up so many HR... lots of young starters do that. Working the corners comes with confidence and time.

 

[MiamiVice]

If Illitch was getting antsy then Chapman would've been a done deal right along with Greinke, Cespedes or Gordon and another SP not named Pelfrey.

Ilitch can't force the Reds to trade him anyone... You are making the assumption that the Reds actually want anyone in the Tigers farm system.. if they don't.. which is completely possible.. they never had a chance.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

No.. I think both times he was working out when it happened.

pretty damn sure he was playing basketball with his son on this last injury.. I guess that is considered working out

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Victor Martinez is notorious for how hard he pushes himself in training.

not doubting that one bit. He's older and two knee surgeries in 3 years. They don't heal anywhere near as good as when you're in early to mid-twenties....

 

[MiamiVice]

Tigers actually have drafted a handful of pitchers that are having decent mlb careers.

• andrew miller
• smyle
• porcello
• verlander
• Burke Badenhop
  
• Casey Fien
• Corey Knebel

those are just a few off the top of my head....

 

[MiamiVice]

pretty damn sure he was playing basketball with his son on this last injury.. I guess that is considered working out

The Tigers announced that Victor Martinez tore the medial meniscus in his left knee during his offseason workout program and will undergo surgery next Tuesday. The team did not give a timeline regarding his recovery, stating that they will provide further updates next week after Dr. James Andrews performs the operation.

that is according to mlbtraderumors.com

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

I think Verhagen is a future closer if he can get his walk rate down. He only started throwing out of the bullpen about 7 months ago

I like the little bit of VerHagen that I actually saw on Live tv. They should've made that move immediately with him being Pen material

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Ilitch can't force the Reds to trade him anyone

well, shit then... what was I thinking

You are making the assumption that the Reds actually want anyone in the Tigers farm system..

uuhhmmmm, NO... just wishing they were that gullible

 

[MiamiVice]

Forgot Furbush, Zumaya and kyle ryan,

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Tigers actually have drafted a handful of pitchers that are having decent mlb careers.

• andrew miller
• smyle
• porcello
• verlander
• Burke Badenhop
  
• Casey Fien
• Corey Knebel

those are just a few off the top of my head....

nice list... but that goes back to JV and 2004 ? that's not good... Look at Stl., Oak., TB, Atl who traded a lot of their farm to get position players

 

[MiamiVice]

I like the little bit of VerHagen that I actually saw on Live tv. They should've made that move immediately with him being Pen material

Tigers drafted him as a starter and Dombrowski was bull headed to transition anyone form that because he thought it hurt their trade value.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Forgot Furbush, Zumaya and kyle ryan,

They gave up too early on Furbush but I liked getting Fister and wasn't sure Furbush would turn out like he did. I would love to have Furbush back.. actually just like saying his name..

 

[MiamiVice]

nice list... but that goes back to JV and 2004 ? that's not good... Look at Stl., Oak., TB, Atl who traded a lot of their farm to get position players

i'm not counting all the guys that DD traded that never panned out for anything... plus there are guys like that thompson kid he traded for Soria.. he is now a top 50 prospect in the mlb.. and looks like a complete stud for the phillies now.

 

[MiamiVice]

They gave up too early on Furbush but I liked getting Fister and wasn't sure Furbush would turn out like he did. I would love to have Furbush back.. actually just like saying his name..

I don't think they gave up to early on him.. I think they just got the chance to trade him for Fister.. and that was that.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Zumaya

he was another favorite of mine until he blew his arm out for the 13th time (it wasn't that much. it just seemed like it.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

that is according to mlbtraderumors.com

that seems like first surgery... I might be wrong though it'd be first time in my life