Decisions, Decisions. Decisions

[BigKen]

Hell yes for a vet discount.

He was making $12M a year. Doubt he'd take a 50% discount.

 

[Yankee Traveler]

He was making $12M a year. Doubt he'd take a 50% discount.

You lost me...

31 year old Bobby Wagner was released by the Rams yesterday. In 11 years, he averaged 140 tackles a year, 3 sacks a year and 1 INT. The Rams are so hard pressed against the cap tht they saved $5M by cutting him. I know he's oldbut would you consider him a solid MLB for the Patriots? Especially if BB could get him for $5-$7M? Maybe a 2 year $11M guaranteed?

Isn't that right in the 50% range??

 

[Southieinnc]

Bills kind of treasure.

EDIT: He has only missed one game due to injury in his career back in 2018. He's only 32.

Hell yes for a vet discount.

And I'll take Patrick Mahomes on a discount too!

 

[Yankee Traveler]

And I'll take Patrick Mahomes on a discount too!

 

[cheerupcharlie]

He was making $12M a year. Doubt he'd take a 50% discount.

It’s what you suggested earlier……

 

[BigKen]

Isn't that right in the 50% range??

Yeah, but from the first indications, he'll be looking for two or three year deal supposedly around $30-$45M. ""I"" think the Bears might offer him 3/$36M and guarantee $24M. Bill won't even sniff if he wants that kind of money.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

31 year old Bobby Wagner was released by the Rams yesterday. In 11 years, he averaged 140 tackles a year, 3 sacks a year and 1 INT. The Rams are so hard pressed against the cap tht they saved $5M by cutting him. I know he's oldbut would you consider him a solid MLB for the Patriots? Especially if BB could get him for $5-$7M? Maybe a 2 year $11M guaranteed?

Yes, he's smart, a run stopper, leader and good team mate. Maybe not an every down LB but certainly early downs and situational downs.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Wagner is worth the phone call for sure

 

[Southieinnc]

Wagner is worth the phone call for sure

He's got an agent.
If we want a good deal, calling him before he calls us sends the wrong message. IMHO.

 

[YankeeRebel]

He's got an agent.
If we want a good deal, calling him before he calls us sends the wrong message. IMHO.

Yeah at his age that is not a real factor

 

[BigKen]

Christian Kirk got a new contract.

In 2023, Kirk will earn a base salary of $15,500,000, a roster bonus of $500,000 and a workout bonus of $500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $23,000,000 and a dead cap value of $30,500,000.

With Jakobi Meyers stats being almost the same (Slightly less) and Meyers being the best available free agent WR available in 2023, what do you honestly think the chances are that he'll be a Patriot come July?? I can't for the life of me, imagine Bill Belichick paying him $17-$18M a year for three years.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Christian Kirk got a new contract.

In 2023, Kirk will earn a base salary of $15,500,000, a roster bonus of $500,000 and a workout bonus of $500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $23,000,000 and a dead cap value of $30,500,000.

With Jakobi Meyers stats being almost the same (Slightly less) and Meyers being the best available free agent WR available in 2023, what do you honestly think the chances are that he'll be a Patriot come July?? I can't for the life of me, imagine Bill Belichick paying him $17-$18M a year for three years.

I suspect he will not be here in July. We all like him just not sure the value is there.

WRs are a huge problem for the CAP they command large amounts of money / cap space and are prone to injuries.

 

[BigKen]

WRs are a huge problem for the CAP they command large amounts of money / cap space and are prone to injuries

Biggest problem today is that teams cannot win without having at least two good ones.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Biggest problem today is that teams cannot win without having at least two good ones.

Yep it's true and thay may change with the extremely mobile QBs. The game changes all the time but WRs are becoming more problematic then years past.

 

[BigKen]

Buffalo Bills DC Leslie Frazier announced yesterday that he will take 2023 off and return in 2024.

Think McDermott might give Mayo a call and offer him more money than Kraft did to take over the Biills defense?? "Hey Jerrod, how about $7M and you get the DC job and Ass't HC title??

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Buffalo Bills DC Leslie Frazier announced yesterday that he will take 2023 off and return in 2024.

Think McDermott might give Mayo a call and offer him more money than Kraft did to take over the Biills defense?? "Hey Jerrod, how about $7M and you get the DC job and Ass't HC title??

Let's hope not.

Who cares, we have Stevie.

Should've used green font.

 

[Southieinnc]

Buffalo Bills DC Leslie Frazier announced yesterday that he will take 2023 off and return in 2024.

Think McDermott might give Mayo a call and offer him more money than Kraft did to take over the Biills defense?? "Hey Jerrod, how about $7M and you get the DC job and Ass't HC title??

I don't think it's about money with Mayo.....

 

[BigKen]

At the end of the 2023 season, the Patriot must decide by May 1, 2024 to give Mac Jones the fifth year option. If they do, Mac will be guaranteed $36M for the 2025 season.

In my not always agreed with opinion, I think that the Patriots should draft a quarterback, just in case Mac doesn't make any improvement over 2022, regardless of the changes made around him. Just in case.

 

[Southieinnc]

At the end of the 2023 season, the Patriot must decide by May 1, 2024 to give Mac Jones the fifth year option. If they do, Mac will be guaranteed $36M for the 2025 season.

In my not always agreed with opinion, I think that the Patriots should draft a quarterback, just in case Mac doesn't make any improvement over 2022, regardless of the changes made around him. Just in case.

So do you use our #14 to get the 5th QB off the board or,
Do you trade up and give all our picks for ______?
Do you trade Zappe and our $1?
Do you draft a 6th rounder and hope for Brady II?
Do you throw darts at the big board?

 

[nefansince75]

So do you use our #14 to get the 5th QB off the board or,
Do you trade up and give all our picks for ______?
Do you trade Zappe and our $1?
Do you draft a 6th rounder and hope for Brady II?
Do you throw darts at the big board?

I'll kick in a buck to make it our $2.